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Adding a Dragon Ball Super explanation page to the wiki

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concerning the 12 universes and their status as separate space-time continua. Many people, myself included, have historically made threads questioning the legitimacy of this claim, pointing out the fact that each timeline has its own copy of all 12 universes
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Different universes are considered to have separate space-time continua by default. I don't know why that has to be proven. Both U6 and U7 are twin universes, kind of like alternate versions of each other, but Universe 7 has its own history that is different than Universe 6's, considering the different evolutions of the same planet Earth and the Saiyan's planet. I don't how being part of a larger timeline changes anything in that regard.

It makes a claim (universes are alternate space-times) and justifies it with "Universe 7 already contains space-time continua within its globe and those are affected by time travel," but it doesn't explain what makes the Room of Spirit and Time an independent space-time continuum or how "Universe 6 and Universe 7 belong to different space-time continua" follows from the RoSaT being a space-time continuum.
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RoSaT has it's own flow of time that is different than the universe's. The purpose of RoSaT example was to show that even if it is a separate space-time continuum, it is still a part of the bigger timeline and every timeline has its own, which is effected by time travel. Hence the point about every timeline having their own copies of 12 universes doesn't necessarily mean that those universes share the same space-time continuum.

Although, I suppose an information blog about the currently accepted cosmology would help avoid confusion.
 
She said Earth as at the edge of the Universe, and that they do not have technology to observe the entire universe because of that. Which still adds context to the "Much larger than the observable Universe" facts.
 
This isn't the scan I was looking for, but i was wondering if it would be helpful to anyone? I think this is strictly anime though (I could be wrong on that though..)

 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
She said Earth as at the edge of the Universe, and that they do not have technology to observe the entire universe because of that. Which still adds context to the "Much larger than the observable Universe" facts.
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I mean, sure? But what about the “spec” statement? That’s something I’ve never heard of.
 
It's just commonly spoken IRL that the OU is just a spec compared to the universe. There is none for Dragon Ball specifically, but given the nature of having better tech than we do and despite that not being able to observe the entire universe still points the a clear outcome about the size being more vast.
 
Aren't the afterlife and the living world part of the same 3-dimensional space?
 
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No, we consider them spatially seperated
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Why? From diagrams I have seen they don't look spatially separate at all.
Like,
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Doesn't look spatially disconnected.
 

The diagrams used in official media have the Living World completely sealed off from the Other World by some sort of barrier [the lower bowl]. In the diagram you have, there is an empty gap where Hell should be, giving off the illusion that Other World leads into the Living World, but in the official ones, the landscape of Hell is present at the bottom.
 
Don't we not use the diagrams for size scaling? Either way I don't really know how you can visually tell something is spatially separate.
 
Nullflowerblush said:

The diagrams used in official media have the Living World completely sealed off from the Other World by some sort of barrier [the lower bowl]. In the diagram you have, there is an empty gap where Hell should be, giving off the illusion that Other World leads into the Living World, but in the official ones, the landscape of Hell is present at the bottom.
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A barrier doesn't make things spatially separate.

In case it wasn't clear: When I say spatially separate I don't mean whether or not there is some barrier that prevents actually going from A to B. I mean that, by moving in three dimensions, you can't go there because the direction "towards B" is not part of three dimensions.

By the look of the diagram, going upwards from earth would eventually get you to the afterlife (provided you can pass through barriers, hell and whatever else might be in the way).

FluffyCreatureZ said:
They are stated to be separate. The diagrams don't have to make this very clear.
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Can I see that statement? Perhaps with a little context? The number of the chapter would suffice as well.
 
 
That's not for sale or to take it literally
The universe would be orange if we do and it only would be over 10 million kms actually.
the guides and the show treat the after life as a seperate dimension, only accessed by teleportation and sealed off from the living world by dimensional walls
 
I only bring up the "extra-dimensional" Daizenshuu statement to drive home the fact that the Living World and the Other World are separate.
 
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What is the world talked about in the first one? 'cause of the "above heaven" stuff is it something that is not the entire afterlife? In the first place, if it is "above" heaven isn't it still kinda in the same space since it can have such an "above" relationship?

That it can generally be only entered by dead people is not a good argument, especially if those with permission are apparently allowed to travel between the realms.

That source also brings up the four galaxy thing, which I thought wasn't official anymore?
 
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