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Adding a Dragon Ball Super explanation page to the wiki

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Zamasu_Chan said:
Tbf the dimension is stated to be closed off and the actual body of the dimension has an unknown location. So I don’t see why that would be a counter argument in the first place.
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It is stated to be completely sealed, which makes sense, but the quantifiable distance between beerus' planet (which is in the living world) and earth is greater than the "unquantifiable distance" between the living world and afterlife because Goku can't travel with IT easily from beerus' planet to earth while he can from earth to king kai's. This for some reason makes it so we can't use the same logic for beerus and champa's feat here. But I don't really understand it, I'm just repeating that guys points.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
It is stated to be completely sealed, which makes sense, but the quantifiable distance between beerus' planet (which is in the living world) and earth is greater than the "unquantifiable distance" between the living world and afterlife because Goku can't travel with IT easily from beerus' planet to earth while he can from earth to king kai's. This for some reason makes it so we can't use the same logic for beerus and champa's feat here. But I don't really understand it, I'm just repeating that guys points.
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Hmm. Still wouldn’t mean much because Beerus’s planet is in an unknown area.
 
Bernkastelll said:
The multiverse actually should be Low 1-C because a single time ring add an Extra temporal axis to a timeline that already is 4-D, which means 3 spatial dimensions with 2 temporal dimensions, but thats another matter 🌚
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Wait, where is this coming from? I don’t remember the time rings being mentioned to add a extra temporal axis and thereby making it 5D.
In fact, wasn’t it because each time something in the past changes the present, and future right?
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Wait, where is this coming from? I don’t remember the time rings being mentioned to add a extra temporal axis and thereby making it 5D.
In fact, wasn’t it because each time something in the past changes the present, and future right?
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Because timerings are their own timeline encompassing 12 space-time continuums (the 12 universes)
 
Bernkastelll said:
Because timerings are their own timeline encompassing 12 space-time continuums (the 12 universes)
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Oh, that.
Technically the timelines are connected to their respective universes such as Future Trunk’s timeline connected to the timeline of Universe 7 which is Goku and Vegeta.

Also don’t remember the time rings being their own timeline since ain’t they made from someone or someone changing the past?
 
HammerStrikes219 said:
Wait, that is the DBS manga which doesn’t apply in DBS anime.
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the same stuff was explained in the anime, and this is a thread about Dragon Ball Super, I never said that I was talking about the anime, but it also applies to the anime, so, whatever

HammerStrikes219 said:
Also, it literally say “parallel world” in the scan you used so I don’t think that will been Low 1C necessarily.
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Yes, which are timelines, since, when Zeno erased the future timeline, a time ring literally ceased to exist
 
The Time Rings are connected to a specific parallel world and allow the user to travel to the future of that world. When a world is destroyed, so is the ring, and when a world is created, a new ring emerges.

There is literally no way to argue that the Time Rings result in a Low 1-C cosmology. Go on. Try and argue that the Time Rings are completely qualitatively superior to the entirety of a parallel world.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The Time Rings are connected to a specific parallel world and allow the user to travel to the future of that world. When a world is destroyed, so is the ring, and when a world is created, a new ring emerges.

There is literally no way to argue that the Time Rings result in a Low 1-C cosmology. Go on. Try and argue that the Time Rings are completely qualitatively superior to the entirety of a parallel world.
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thats actually a proof to Low 1-C, because iirc, our current cosmology accept all 12 DB universes sharing the same timeline, which are the timerings
 
Orange said:
I see, wouldn't also regular timelines be low 1-C since they encompass multiple space times?
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thats what I'm arguing, the existence of time rings are proof of a timeline existing, and the fact that a timeline encompass multiples space-times is what makes the timeline add literally a new temporal axis in space-times already 4-D, resulting in a Low 1-C cosmology due 3 spatial dimensions with 2 temporal dimensions
 
Zamasu_Chan said:
Hmm. Still wouldn’t mean much because Beerus’s planet is in an unknown area.
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But it's still in the living world which is the size of the universe.
Bernkastelll said:
Well, as explaiend here, the existence of the time rings are basically the amount of timelines that exist, and these timelines literally encompass stuff like universe 7, which is accepted as a Space-Time in this wiki, so, Low 1-C
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This isn't tier 1, encompassing a timeline or timelines is not tier 1.
 
I heard that a space time that encompasses another space time means it's A low 1-C structure
I remember because I created a Q&A thread about it and the answer was yes I believe
 
Bernkastelll said:
A timeline adding a temporal axis to structures already 4-D is Low 1-C due the fact that a new axis is being stacked in a 4-D structure
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Stop this, it's not adding an axis. It's a timeline being encompassed by a bigger timeline, this is still 2-C, somebody already explained this to me.
And yes let's talk about 2-C U7 first then we can talk about other stuff.
 
Orange said:
Proving U7 is 2-C is a terrible move
you'd accidentally prove it's low1-C kek
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Not really, 2-C U7 due more than 1 space-time in U7 will be just 2-C, yeah, but the 2-C argument due a timeline sharing 12 space-times (which is how we treat current DBS cosmology) is literally Low 1-C


but i will stop talking about this lmao
 
Nullflowerblush said:
What was the argument for 2-C Universe 7 again? The only realm that is confirmed to be universal in size is the Outer Space.
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The otherworld is universal in size, I'm sure.
Zamasu_Chan said:
Is that directly stated or shown? I don’t remember.
Anyway, I’d probably save that low 1-C moeshit for another time.
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The dragon ball wiki claims this and puts the chozenshuu for the reference. Here.
 
The location of Beerus' Planet is never explicitly revealed AFAIK. The official summary for Episode 2 of Super on Toei's webpage states that he lives "beyond the universe" which suggests he does not live in the Living World, but that is all we have to go off of.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The location of Beerus' Planet is never explicitly revealed AFAIK. The official summary for Episode 2 of Super on Toei's webpage states that he lives "beyond the universe" which suggests he does not live in the Living World, but that is all we have to go off of.
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If we go off this and ignore DB wiki and the chozenshuu apparently then U7 is 2-C.
Unless someone has a debunk to the argument I showed earlier.
 
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