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Adding a Dragon Ball Super explanation page to the wiki

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Personally, I’d interpret the different realms as different space-times, but whatever.
If I gonna been frank, I not sure on the different space time as it isn't like impossible for something to being spatially connected while temporally disconnected as far as I am aware especially with the involvement of the multiverse to begin with... Well in a fictional setting since irl, it is just a theory that ain't true nor false ie. currently unable to being disproven or proven for that matter.
 
Yeah I agree with AKM, it's a banned topic
then why would you participate in such debate about topic, and only pull "banned topic" card near the end? almost as if you don't have any rebuttal and you used to to shut any argument , just like you did in that speed thread. Pretty sus and clear signs of power abuse
 
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Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have participated. I should have closed this thread without warning in the first place when it has been getting derailed from the start.
 
I'm pretty sure that the DB universes should be interpreted primarily as Hubble volumes sharing the same time axis and "history", separated only by an unknown amount of space. In which case, destroying one universe would only amount to 3-A at most, and destroying the entire timeline would just be Low 2-C.
 
You’ve already misinterpreted what I said. Obviously their past present and future move in sync because they’re all in the same timeline. What this shows is that time in the afterlife does not have the same properties as time in the living world. They move the same but have different effects.
Such as what?

You people keep talking about how time in the Other World/Cosmos/afterlife is different from time in the "living universe" in DB, but there is zero explanation as to what way or in what manner they are differentiated. It just seems more and more like made-up headcanon cocked up to rationalize DB being incrementally upgraded to Low 1-C, which many in this same thread have expressed desires for.

In other words, headcanon. You wanna talk about training? King Kai says 158 days of training with him would be like 1000 years on earth. Notice how he specifically says “on earth”, implying the location is what’s important here.
And yet 1000 years on Earth didn't pass when Goku was training with King Kai in the afterlife. Maybe, just maybe, that statement has something more to do with how difficult King Kai's training is, not how time in the afterlife relates to time in the living world.

Segueing back to the actual topic at hand, it's arguments like these that make me agree that we need not only a Dragon Ball Super cosmology explanation for the wiki, but one for the Dragon Ball verse as a whole. Too much misinformation spread by especially motivated personalities have muddied the waters severely on how the Dragon Ball universe works in terms of vs debating.
 
Such as what?

You people keep talking about how time in the Other World/Cosmos/afterlife is different from time in the "living universe" in DB, but there is zero explanation as to what way or in what manner they are differentiated. It just seems more and more like made-up headcanon cocked up to rationalize DB being incrementally upgraded to Low 1-C, which many in this same thread have expressed desires for.


And yet 1000 years on Earth didn't pass when Goku was training with King Kai in the afterlife. Maybe, just maybe, that statement has something more to do with how difficult King Kai's training is, not how time in the afterlife relates to time in the living world.

Segueing back to the actual topic at hand, it's arguments like these that make me agree that we need not only a Dragon Ball Super cosmology explanation for the wiki, but one for the Dragon Ball verse as a whole. Too much misinformation spread by especially motivated personalities have muddied the waters severely on how the Dragon Ball universe works in terms of vs debating.
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Bruh, how is it power abuse? The whole point is that cosmology changes aren’t supposed to happen, we can’t just call it power abuse when he/she does their job.
Obviously no one would want to accept that especially when almost half the db community disagrees with where they have it, crts get shut down even without any proper refutations, and all that with not even an explanation blog…
Especially when it’s made blatantly clear there is a bias against the series on this wiki..
 
Obviously no one would want to accept that especially when almost half the db community disagrees with where they have it, crts get shut down even without any proper refutations, and all that with not even an explanation blog…
Well, I'm not agreeing with what the wiki is saying. I'm just saying that he himself shouldn't be blamed for basically doing his job.

Especially when it’s made blatantly clear there is a bias against the series on this wiki..
Not sure if I can truly deny this one. DB's 5C ratings weren't there for a really long time until a few years ago.
 
So, according to this thread universes share the same flow of time due of:
  1. Whis saying that time can flow in only 1 direction
  2. Grand Priest saying that 40 hours flow the same in the universes (here and here)
  3. Universes being cloned from time travel
  4. ROSAT being a space time is debunked across the thread, as it's not for the same reason Afterlife isn't.
I'd like to bring these too.
 
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So, according to this thread universes share the same flow of time due of:
  1. Whis saying that time can flow in only 1 direction
  2. Grand Priest saying that 40 hours flow the same in the universes (here and here)
  3. Universes being cloned from time travel
  4. ROSAT being a space time is debunked across the thread, as it's not for the same reason Afterlife isn't.
I'd like to bring these too.
1. I think it more or less just has to do with time only flowing in a certain way rather than all universes having the same time flow.

2. that’s a pretty fair point.

3. this is something I disagree with mainly because of the fact that hye aren’t cloned.

4. not sure about that cause ROSAT has plenty of implications of being its own space-time.
 
1. I think it more or less just has to do with time only flowing in a certain way rather than all universes having the same time flow.
Only one direction kinda of implies that tho. You can't always go in a single direction if there are more of you, as even confirmed from GP.
3. this is something I disagree with mainly because of the fact that hye aren’t cloned.
Elaborate on why they weren't.
4. not sure about that cause ROSAT has plenty of implications of being its own space-time.
It's not for the same reason Afterlife isn't. Having time flowing faster doesn't mean that it's a whole different flow, more than is a pocket dimension where time is warped.
Time flow has the same direction in future trunks's timeline too.
What do you mean here?
 
Elaborate on why they weren't.
It seems more like timelines branching and stuff rather than actual cloning.


It's not for the same reason Afterlife isn't. Having time flowing faster doesn't mean that it's a whole different flow, more than is a pocket dimension where time is warped
And it’s also referred to as a closed off dimension or even a separate time dimension.


Only one direction kinda of implies that tho. You can't always go in a single direction if there are more of you, as even confirmed from GP.
Just going by the context of that statement, it just means that time flows forward rather than any other manner.
 
It seems more like timelines branching and stuff rather than actual cloning.
Each timeline contains the 12 universes, which are the same between Trunks and Present timeline. Ergo all of them were cloned.
And it’s also referred to as a closed off dimension or even a separate time dimension.
So only a pocket dimension where time is warped.
Just going by the context of that statement, it just means that time flows forward rather than any other manner.
It talks like time is only one, not more of them, especially in that context, giving that it talks about time travelling. Making a paradox in U7 doesen't clone just U7, but all of the universes, meaning that there's only one flow of time that was paradoxed and cloned here.
 
Again, it’s blatantly called a time dimension, meaning it does have its own flow of time.
It's only a name, it means nothing. We don't make Big Bang 3-A because it's named as that. And it's still in the boundaries of the U7, meaning that is only a pocket dimension where time is different than the rest. Our standards are much higher than that, and this isn't evidence, but only speculation. I'd need direct STATEMENTS of it having a different flow of time, not "it's a space time because I say so" like all the other times this was discussed.
 
It's only a name, it means nothing. We don't make Big Bang 3-A because it's named as that. And it's still in the boundaries of the U7, meaning that is only a pocket dimension where time is different than the rest. Our standards are much higher than that, and this isn't evidence, but only speculation. I'd need direct STATEMENTS of it having a different flow of time, not "it's a space time because I say so" like all the other times this was discussed.
It wouldn’t be Low 2C, but there’s too much evidence supporting it having its own time flow.
 
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