Accelerator & Touma Kamijou vs Iihiko Shishime

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Battle takes place here (No cars or citizens around)

Accel & Touma vs Iihiko

Everyone is in character

Base Post-Headshot Accel

Accel and Touma start out 7 meters apart from Iihiko

Speed Equalized

Touma and Accel knows about Irreversible Destruction and its mechanics, no preptime for anyone.

VOTES:

Touma and Accel: 5 (Accelerate420, ElixirBlue, Ionliosite, GLHF22, XDragnoir)

Iihiko:

Inconclusive:

 

[Loli_Gatherer]

uhh pretty sure Accelerator stomps with Law manip or Forced Astral Projection. Add a little extra by IB keeping contact on lihiko's body, disabling Subjective Immunity long enough for Accelerator to destroy him. Also sure that Touma can precog lihiko's attack because his entire being seems supernatural enough for Touma to sense. Gonna lean towards team raildex for this one.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Uhh Law manip is non combat applicable

Index team's best bet is Accelerator immeadiately throwing Touma at Iihiko. If Touma touches him, they win

If not, Iihiko stomps

 

[Ionliosite]

Accy protects the one who punches women with his vectors until Touma touches Iihiko and then he gets hand twisted to death GG.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Yeah... Hax's don't really work on Iihiko. Might be wrong but when a god throw everything she has just to stall him and it doesn't work, Accelerator supporters are gonna have to convince me of this one.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Then Iihiko possesses him

 

[GLHF22]

Iihiko cant bypass Accel vector

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Iihiko cant bypass Accel vector

He can, because his shield is only High 1-C when against a High 1-C attack

Iihiko is 3-D, so he nulls

 

[ElixirBlue]

Iihiko bypassed everything.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

I mean, Touma can one shot Iihiko just by touching him.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I mean, Touma can one shot Iihiko just by touching him.

The problem is to touch him

 

[ElixirBlue]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm... even that...

 

[SchroKatze]

his shield can just reflect every single physcial attack up to High 1-C. Its his Attack Pottency that varies according to the vectors he comes in contact with.

 

[GLHF22]

So now Accel vector can be nulled by traditional power Null?

 

[Ionliosite]

Accy's vector shield is always High 1-C in durability tho, and Iihiko caps at 4-D, so I doubt he can do anything againts Accy's vectors.

 

[ElixirBlue]

With a rubber band, Iihiko casually killed this character with very low diff

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

his shield can just reflect every single physcial attack up to High 1-C. Its his Attack Pottency that varies according to the vectors he comes in contact with.

Yes. in this case, he would be reflecting a 3-D attacks, so the shield would be at 3-D potency, then Iihiko nulls

 

[SchroKatze]

... No, the shield is already 11-D. the attack is 3-D, this doesn't change how his shield workds. It won't reflect the attack back with High 1-C Ap, but will block and reflect it like a normal attack with the same force it came in.

 

[GLHF22]

Then Accel and touma stomp

 

[SchroKatze]

Accel's attack potency varies according to the vecors he comes in contact with, but his shield doesn't. It can and has deflected teleportation (3-D vectors going thorugh 11-D space in To Aru) while he wasn't even paying attention to the thing.

 

[ElixirBlue]

By character design, Najimi Ajimu has every Hax you can think off and then some, including Vector manipulation and Iihiko killed her with a rubber band.

 

[GLHF22]

Thats dumb and PIS so don't use it as argument

 

[Ionliosite]

She having every hax you can think off is a NLF, since we don't really know all of her abilities.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Ok then. Let me offer something else. What is the nature of Accelerator's vector's? Because it's not absolute (Evidence, Touma)

And Iihiko has this ability as well. Non-Physical Interaction (He was capable of ignoring Ajimu's non-corporeal nature)

 

[Ionliosite]

Touma can bypas Accelerator's vectors because he can null things up to High 1-C. Non-Physical Interaction doesn't matter since neither Accelerator nor Touma is Non-Corporeal.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

... No, the shield is already 11-D. the attack is 3-D, this doesn't change how his shield workds. It won't reflect the attack back with High 1-C Ap, but will block and reflect it like a normal attack with the same force it came in.

If it will attack with the same force it came in, then he wont really affect Iihiko

 

[GLHF22]

Yeah but touma does affect lihiko

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yeah but touma does affect lihiko

Yeah, but Touma is just a human

As I said before, Accel must throw Touma at him with his vector manip, otherwise Iihiko just throw a rubber band at Touma or an air shockwave

 

[GLHF22]

Accel can Shield touma with His vector tho

 

[ElixirBlue]

I'm pretty much going down the list of Iihiko's abilities

Power Nullification (None of Medaka's or Ajimu's abilities worked on him)

 

[Ionliosite]

Accel can Shield touma with His vector tho

This, exactly this. I said this in my first comment.

 

[SchroKatze]

I'm pretty much going down the list of Iihiko's abilities
Power Nullification (None of Medaka's or Ajimu's abilities worked on him)

none of which affected things of a transcendent/higher dimensional nature.

 

[ElixirBlue]

@SchroKatze that's an assumption. Najimi Ajimu Tier: Unknown. Casually gave a guy the power to erase color (heck, everything) from the universe and thought nothing of it.

 

[Ionliosite]

@SchroKatze that's an assumption. Najimi Ajimu Tier: Unknown. Casually gave a guy the power to erase color (heck, everything) from the universe and thought nothing of it.

Unknown can mean a lot of things. And that in't even a AP feat, taht's just range/hax.

 

[SchroKatze]

You mean the joke character and all? Also, she has 0 feats of doing something on the level of what Accel noped. "muh quadrilliunz powah" is worthless here and she has just small feats.

 

[ElixirBlue]

I know it could mean a lot of things, like being on a higher dimensional nature. And Iihiko with his abilities one shotted that person with a rubber band.

 

[Ionliosite]

Even if she were a higher dimensional existence, she is nowhere near High 1-C, I even doubt she would be in High 2-A.

 

[SchroKatze]

Via feats? she is nowhere higher dimensional in nature. You are just making assumptions at this point.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Yeah, I am. ... why are we doing this match? At least three of the Medaka Box profiles are at Unknown. And they're the one's with the strongest haxes.

 

[Accelerate420]

You can't permanently null an esper power unless it's a passive ability btw. It'd be akin to turning off a light and then it turns back on in a split second time lag since their esper powers is tied to their brain power so they're more biological than they are generic superpowers. If his Power Null is passive then he can probably by pass the field but if it's an ability he needs to activate then he won't get an active window to get through.

That being said, what is the argument here right now so I can attempt to debunk misunderstandings?