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Sonic
Tails
Knuckles
vs.
Bergamo
Lavender
Basil
Team Sonic is in their 4-A adventure era keys start off with 20 rings, blockite and a chaos emerald each. Sonic and Tails get Magic Hands.
Trio de Dangers are at their Universe Survival Saga keys(2-C).
Speed is equalized, and fight takes place...
basil (dragon ball)
bergamo
dragon ball
knuckles the echidna (game)
lavender
sonic the hedgehog
sonic the hedgehog (adventure)
sonic the hedgehog (main continuity)
tails (game)
a recall to 17 one shotting Krillin back in GT.
anyways
Universe Survival Arc Krillin (Super) against Base Super 17 (GT) aka first key. Both are 2-C and speed is obviously equalized.
both sides have knowledge on each other.
Krillin:
17:
Incon:
If 17 stomps I can change this to HF17
soooo
Buu Saga Goku in BASE is listed as High 3-A, alrighty.
Cell Games Gohan (and therefore Super Perfect Cell) is listed as 3-C.
wut????
CG Gohan even in toei continuity was noted to be a benchmark by Majin Vegeta and Goku by the Buu Saga and was only noted to be surpassed once they turned...
So, okay. This has been bugging me out for quite a bit but it should be something simple
From Krillin's profile, he scales to Goku's Class T lifting strength feat.
This is ignoring a few things:
-Krillin scales to Early/Pre ToP (Base?) Goku.
-the Base Goku doing this feat is actually after...
All-out Battle Royale between:
Stormfront (Season 2).
Black Noir (Season 1-3)
A-Train (Season 1/4, at his peak WITHOUT heart problems). He has Compound V vials he can use if the match gets bad.
Lamplighter (Season 1, with his supe suit on).
The Deep (Season 4)
Long-story short, these guys...
a-train
a-train (tv series)
black noir (tv series)
lamplighter (tv series)
stormfront (tv series)
the boys
the boys (tv series)
the deep (tv series)
the seven (team) (tv series)
I am rather confused about the Universe 7 size, it was agreed to be 3 universes; then 2 now its 6 why is it 6 now? When was it agreed to be 6 and which are all the 6 universe sized dimensions?
ah yes, the eternal scaling chain battle.
Vegito Blue (anime, ft-arc) vs Black Frieza (manga, granolah the survivor arc).
Both characters have the highest AP of their respective feat (3 universes), so yeah, who wins? Speed is equalized unless unequalizing it somehow makes things fairer.
Short story, Frieza comes back to earth a couple years earlier. With no other option to defend the earth against him Goku and Vegeta are forced to fuse.
which leaves us with Super Saiyan Gogeta against Golden Frieza.
2-C keys (Toei Gogeta from Fusion Reborn meanwhile Canon Golden Frieza...
GT Goku (Shadow Dragon arc) vs. DBS Goku (Tournament of Power arc, pre Ultra Instinct sign)
Both are 2-C and speed is equalized. Both start in base. GT Goku can access all his Super Saiyan transformations including Limits Broken SSJ4 while DBS Goku can access up to SSB Kaioken x20.
If this...
so here it was accepted that Buuhan's ripping wall through dimensions wasn't merely an environmental destruction ability but done via Buuhan's own AP.
which means now we have to discuss which characters scale to this feat via being above or at least relative to Buuhan.
I am proposing upgrades...
Homelander (Dynamite Entertainment) vs. Homer Simpson.
Both are at their 9-A keys with speed being equalized. Fight takes place outside of Moe's Bar.
Homelander:
Homer: 7
Base Silver vs. Base Future Trunks (post 1st rosat)
Both at Low 4-C, and speed is equalized.
Scenario 1: fight in a desolated wasteland, both of them in character. win via any means (main focus of the match).
Scenario 2: friendly sparring match. win via KO
Scenario 3: both of them see the...
Could FT-arc Vegito get an "at least 3-A" rating?
-Vegito wasn't going all out against Zamasu, even in the anime
-Vegito and Zamasu were beyond Gowasu's understanding of Gods during their fight
-As if that wasn't enough, BASE Vegito in that arc due to fusion logic would already be > a SSBKK...
Black Noir from the The Boys. Amazon Series fights Stormfront from the same series.
Both are 9-A, they fight in an abandoned Warehouse and both of them are at peak condition and In Character
Scenario 1: both start 5 meters away from each other (main focus of the match).
Scenario 2: both start...
Pardon my wording here
So, uh, Soldier Boy completely vapourizes the Crimson Countess with his own blast, which also leaves the whole building they were at in ashes and the shockwave from the blast also reaches several meters further
The feat I am referring to:
Could this possibly be an 8-C...
Daniel LaRusso (Cobra Kai Season 3) vs. Billy Butcher (Amazon The Boys).
Both are 9-B and In Character. Fight takes place in a mall, hand to hand only and Billy brings his crowbar in case he needs it.
Scenario 1: Random Encounter.
Scenario 2: Both are aware of who the other is.
The main focus...
soooo, Madelyn stated that there isn't a weapon on Earth they haven't thrown at Homelander and they all failed.
There goes the question, if this statement was taken seriously what tier would Homelander be?
I am not implying Jiren is stronger than Beerus here, but since he scales above Belmod; both him and Third Omen Goku should get also an at least Low 2-C rating.
Edit: also advocating for everyone who scales to the GoDs (UI Goku, Jiren, Gogeta and Broly) to get their range upgraded to Low...
So well, in this scene at the start of S2 (exactly, minute 1:25); Luther tanks a missile launched to the back. I don't know the exact value for this, but shouldn't this upgrade both Number Five and Klaus to 9-B? As they somewhat scale to Luther in both AP and Durability since they scale to Diego...
What's the conseus on their AP here? Are they above (post UIS2) SSBKKx20 and SSBE from the ToP or nah?
EDIT: welp this wasn't meant to go on CRT.
But anyways, if DBSB Blues are indeed SSBE tier or above then I want to make a case for SSG Goku/Vegeta also being Low 2-C in the Movie.
Let's say that Trevor killed most of the Lost gang, except for Johnny.
This time, Johnny is at 2008 self aka peak/TLAD.
R1: H2H.
R2: They got equipment. They are limited to M4, Shotgun and a Desert Eagle.
R3: Full equipment, and both bloodlusted.
Obviously, Trevor's Rage mode is limited...
Absolutely all of Gumball's hax is thought based (including the ones that come from his equipment and the time stopping one). Also his Helmet luck is passive and he doesn't need to wear it for the luck hax to apply.
Speed equalized.
Scenario 1: In Character.
Scenario 2: Bloodlusted.
EDIT...
Since Xeno Goku apparently can get transmuted now, let"s throw Bloodlusted Buuhan at him ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
4-B v 2-B. Buu has an 2x speed advantage and is totally bloodlusted. Goku has absolutely no prior knowledge somehow while Buu does.
Buu: 2
Goku: 0
Goku Black (Chou) vs. Superman Prime (One Million).
Both at their 4-B keys and speed is equalized. Black can use his SSJ Form.
Golden Saiyan:
Golden Kryptonian:
another incon:
Round 1: a single Character.
Round 2: The entire verse.
Your character or verse has to defeat this thing, only the first key aka Low 2-C is being used.
Rules:
-Extra points if the character or verse in question is Low 2-C or lower. or at the very least not Tier 1.
-Speed is obviously equalized.
Bugs Bunny vs Elder God Demonbane. I hope this turns out to be fair.
High 4-C vs 3-A. Speed equalized.
.
getting tired of this shit
Bugs:
Demonbane: 1 (Planck69,
Since this is most likely an stomp, I'll put it on F&G board but can be changed to the VST board if it actually turns out to be fair.
Son Goku from Dragon Ball GT with his Surpassed Limits Super Saiyan 4 Form against Son Goku from Dragon Ball Super. 3-B vs. borderline 2-C. Speed is obviously...
this is Goku at his Buu Arc self and he starts with Super Saiyan. SSJ2 and 3 are restricted.
Bojack starts at his Base but can ascend to Full Power.
Location is the same place where the Z Fighters fought Bojack but no outside interference.
As far as I am aware these are all the characters that scale to the 2-C shared feat of the GoDs:
-Angels.
-Gogeta Blue.
-FPSSJ Broly
-UIS and MUI Goku.
-Jiren.
-the 12 GoDs.
Does anybody else scale? Because I've seen people claiming that SSB Goku and Vegeta also backscale from it. I guess...
Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (GT) vs. Super Saiyan Blue Goku (Black arc).
Speed is unequalized so Gogeta can kinda make up for the AP advantage Goku has.
Fight is in Trunks' timeline Destroyed City.
Gogeta is bloodlusted.
Who is winning this?
Goku:
Gogeta:
Incon: 2 (Roun12, Jo-Smooth,
Son Goku (Buu Saga) vs. Broly (Movie 10). Both are 4-A.
LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Goku are used.
Location is the same place where Gohan and the Kids fought Broly.
Win via any means. Both In Character.
"KAKAROOOOOOT!"
Goku: 5 (Dante, Zamasu Chan, AwkguyDB, Lord JJJ, UchihaSlayer96
Broly: 3...
Super Sonic vs. SSJ Goku (Toei, Cell Games).
Both 4-A and speed is eqialized. Both bloodlusted
Goku:
Sonic: 3 (Gilad Hyperstar, Theuser789, GlaceonGamez471,
When you induce bloodlust state on a character it means they will lead with their most lethal hax right away or that they will use the hax that the debater decides is good in that situation?
And when you induce bloodlust, are traits like intelligence ignored?