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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

I mean if you stick to reading a specific character only, then not really.

Like I'm not really that caught up with Flash or Green Lantern because they don't have a bajillion separate titles happening at the same time.
Let’s say you try to follow the chronologically order of the whole verse

does that work or no?
 
Like I’ve never been into comics… I was like, why would you read when there’s literally movies you can watch 🐵

but then later on kinda understood it more via from manga but still at the same time am like… where the f do I even start with comics tho so like 😅 hmm?

basically currently can’t understand how comics work, should be similar to manga right?
 
Comics generally don’t follow a chronological order, in one book you can have multiple stories just like a manga has a number of arcs.

Don’t really try to find a chronological order, it doesn’t exist, focus on a character.
 
Comics generally don’t follow a chronological order, in one book you can have multiple stories just like a manga has a number of arcs.

Don’t really try to find a chronological order, it doesn’t exist, focus on a character.
Is someone like batman also something who can't really have a chronological order or no?
 
So you don't have to follow from the beginning kinda?
Yeah. But something most characters share, is that they have important origin stories retold in morr modern terms.

If you want to read Batman, you read Year One, Long Halloween and Dark Victory. Then you’re ready to read any of his stories.

Batman currently has 3 volumes: Batman (1940) that contains all of his Pos Crisis story, Batman (2011) which is the first story in the New 52 period and then Batman (2016) which is still releasing monthly.

Read the origin story and just pick a run to read.
 
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Does a cut throat like Earth One Superman's really grant Low-Mid Regeneration?
I mean it fits the standard, but that part of the Low-Mid definition always seemed dumb to me.

An attack being fatal is more dependent on the location than the actual level of damage. It would take more “regenerating power” to regenerate say both of your legs when compared to the amount of ”regenerating power” it would take to regenerate say your heart. Even tho the former may not necessarily be fatal, while the latter definitely is fatal.

I’ll eventually make a thread on that, if nobody else does
 
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And why is supergirl High 1-C exactly?
 
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And why is supergirl High 1-C exactly?
It's explained on the profile.
 
@Tllmbrg Why is there no speed stat?
 
So, I'm looking at one of the feats people argue as an Anti-feat, and it is HILARIOUSLY out of context.

This one: Superman passes out after stopping a ship that would destroy a continent. Action Comics 902

Well, if you read the storyline you'd see: Superman was already weakened from being tortured and repeatedly blasted by Lex Luthor with the power of the Zone Child before he even got to where Doomslayer was. Action Comics #900. He even passes out before he even fights Doomslayer.

Then he gets into another fight with the Doomsdays and gets beaten up by Doomslayer AGAIN immediately before performing this feat. Action Comics 901-902.

Using that as an anti-feat when he's already clearly incredibly weakened feels....disingenuous to me.
 
So, I'm looking at one of the feats people argue as an Anti-feat, and it is HILARIOUSLY out of context.

This one: Superman passes out after stopping a ship that would destroy a continent. Action Comics 902

Well, if you read the storyline you'd see: Superman was already weakened from being tortured and repeatedly blasted by Lex Luthor with the power of the Zone Child before he even got to where Doomslayer was. Action Comics #900. He even passes out before he even fights Doomslayer.

Then he gets into another fight with the Doomsdays and gets beaten up by Doomslayer AGAIN immediately before performing this feat. Action Comics 901-902.

Using that as an anti-feat when he's already clearly incredibly weakened feels....disingenuous to me.
You may post this in the Tier 2 thread if you’d like.
 
We discussed the Warworld one on here and it was agreed that that one has way too many asterisks. While Superman was sundipped, Warworld was being moved by FTL Thrusters amped by Imperiex.


Also, All Star Superman is super non-canon, so not sure why that one is constantly referenced.

The Superman 187 one in the full scan has Superman disagree with Lois on whether he could or couldn't, and he ends up moving Krypton via both his strength and using his heat vision to power Ion engines to help so that one's not a good example. At best, it's a feat of a weakened Superman having enough strength and power in his heat vision to assist in moving a planet.

The JLA #75 one has them literally having just come back to life and still being weakened.

The Justice League of America (2006) #29 one has them pulling the Earth against Starbreaker trying to pull it into the sun, with Starbreaker explicitly taking energy to do it and them fighting his energy even as he powers up.

Adventures of Superman 618 is actually more of a high showing than a low showing as John and Alan aren't just holding the Earth together, they're holding it together and creating atmosphere and gravity against Fifth dimension magic.

Trinity#49 is just plain unusable as Hal's ring and every hero's power are being drained. It's not just that the planet was busted and torn apart, but its worldspirit was removed, which was connected to all the heroes powers and was draining them all (Trinity vol 1 (2006) #49). That's why his ring was counting down the charge in that scan, and why his powers came back the moment the World-Spirit was restored despite both his main and emergency charge being depleted.

Action comics 901-902, I've discussed, so I'll just quote it again here:
So, I'm looking at one of the feats people argue as an Anti-feat, and it is HILARIOUSLY out of context.

This one: Superman passes out after stopping a ship that would destroy a continent. Action Comics 902

Well, if you read the storyline you'd see: Superman was already weakened from being tortured and repeatedly blasted by Lex Luthor with the power of the Zone Child before he even got to where Doomslayer was. Action Comics #900. He even passes out before he even fights Doomslayer.

Then he gets into another fight with the Doomsdays and gets beaten up by Doomslayer AGAIN immediately before performing this feat. Action Comics 901-902.

Using that as an anti-feat when he's already clearly incredibly weakened feels....disingenuous to me.
Teen Titans/JLA is slightly more complicated than "A team is moving the moon". The team specifically is dismantling the weapons and tactics of the Cyberion station, reclaiming the New Genesis tech and keeping Cyberion station from moving the moon in a way that would disrupt Earth.

Don't get me wrong, you did really amazing work, but a lot of these were discussed and the context is missing for the Anti-feats.
 
Being weakened, even to a significant degree, doesn't actually prevent these from being anti-feats given the relative enormity of the tier being proposed. So those aren't really rebuttals to these feats and shouldn't be taken as such.
 
Being weakened, even to a significant degree, doesn't actually prevent these from being anti-feats given the relative enormity of the tier being proposed. So those aren't really rebuttals to these feats and shouldn't be taken as such.
That's... just wrong, and kinda naive?

A character can be weakened to any level, it just depends on what the author wants.
 
Like I said, the relative enormity of the tier being proposed makes that stance unrealistic. They are still valid anti-feats for the tiers being proposed. Though I'd certainly agree not to using using as anti-feats for star level tiers.
 
It does. It'd be illogical to think differently, given the tier he's being alleged to have.
 
Your logic is, since Superman has some kind of infinite strength/power (according to the proposed Tier), he can't be weakened to a state where this infinity becomes finite, right? Just to make sure we're on the same page.
 
he can't be weakened to a state where this infinity becomes finite, right?
I genuinely have no idea where you got that impression, because none of my comments up to this point ever used the word infinite or finite.
 
Then what you are saying is even more wrong than I initally thought. Hopefully this won't make a difference on the thread.
We have a Tier 2 that can hold back to the point that they don't kill 10-Bs, this is basically the same thing
Doesn't Dragon Ball Super has something like this too?
 
Holding back and being weakened are very different things.
Then what you are saying is even more wrong than I initally thought.
It's not, no. Being weakened doesn't really matter here.
 
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