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Agnaa

Agnaa

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Currently in a nadir of interest. Not reading my profile or notifications. If there's anything important, DM me.
    Rikimarox2
    Ello! Been reading the anos thread and it kinda made me question some things about a verse I'm indexing, so I just gotta ask some simple questions if you don't mind:

    If a character applies the very concept of death, causing them to instantly die, and another character resists it, I assume we just list it as "Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation and Death Manipulation", and only assume he resists conceptual death manip, nothing else, right?

    Another thing is that I'm confused about, is if having normal resistance to death manip is enough to resist the conceptual part of the character above.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    If a character applies the very concept of death, causing them to instantly die, and another character resists it, I assume we just list it as "Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation and Death Manipulation"

    I'm not exactly sure what our general standard on writing it for profiles is. Either that or just listing "Resistance to Death Manipulation" may be fine.

    and only assume he resists conceptual death manip, nothing else, right?

    Ye.

    Another thing is that I'm confused about, is if having normal resistance to death manip is enough to resist the conceptual part of the character above.

    If it's resistance to death manip that is, for some reason, established to be general to all ways of applying it, yeah.

    Like, I know a series where vampires can regenerate from "death" being instantiated on them, and I'd expect that to work on concept-based death manip.

    ...Although that specific case would depend on the type of concept manip. Since type 1 is unaffected by the physical world, we wouldn't expect physical changes like "regenerated from it" to reflect the concept, and so it'd automatically apply again, probably incapping them.
    Rikimarox2
    Rikimarox2
    Aha alright, so it's kind of what I expected. It seems I'm gonna need to edit the justification a bit for the profile to emphasize that it's only death manip that the character resisted.

    Thank you for the response!
    EldemadeDityjon
    Hey Can I get the permission to comment in MGK staff thread. I had something to say.
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    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    That seems contradictory; you're both saying they shouldn't have been able to move, and that it doesn't impede movement.
    EldemadeDityjon
    EldemadeDityjon
    They shouldn't be able to move not in the sense of their body being paralyzed but in the sense of being restrained or a better description is being locked in place, not being free .
    As described, it's the concept and law of restraint and stagnation. When it was used on lightning being conducted through chains, the lightning stopped in place unnaturally and not as a result of manipulating the lightning. It's a river suddenly stops flowing while still being there.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    That still seems like it can be explained in other ways, i.e. Body Control, Electricity Manip, Water Manip.

    Note that Electricity Manip does not need to be granted by literally manipulating lightning; it's given for most feats involving doing stuff with lightning.
    DaMonkeMan
    I don't want to look like Dread or something, so I'm not going to bicker on the RVR thread and try to interfere in the case directly as if I'm a mod, but I'm pretty sure what you described is still a rule violation though.
    And he kind of is harassing them as well, he spams the same message begging them to help him out and tells them to shut up when they talk about something else.
    Even if you think that isn't harassment, it's still sort of douchey.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Yeah, but we already know that it's a rule violation, and have had the rules in question brought up.
    DaMonkeMan
    DaMonkeMan
    Though you're right that some of it wasn't relevant, and I do apologize for that, I wasn't trying to stonewall or anything I just wanted to help by giving more evidence and context.
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    Comicgyal
    Hello Agnaa !

    I have a question about something in my verse, and if my logic can fit site standards, if that’s okay to ask you to evaluate?
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    Comicgyal
    Comicgyal
    I understand! Here’s the sandbox of what I have in mind, it’s relatively small.

    vsbattles.fandom.com

    Bayonetta Wank

    vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

    Please look over this whenever you have the chance :)
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I don't understand Bayonetta enough to evaluate that, and I don't want to become engrossed enough to do so, sorry.
    Comicgyal
    Comicgyal
    That’s fine, thanks!
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    How familiar or knowledgable are you with radiation feats? Or do know anybody who does?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    I'm not familiar with them at all. My best guess would be to ask DontTalkDT about them, he's pretty knowledgeable about all calculation methods.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    He seems to be always busy though, also I had asked his for a particular thread over 2 months and didn't get a response
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Keep asking the same thing you asked me until you get a response.
    Edutyn
    Good morning, afternoon, or evening gentleman or madam. Could you honor us with your beautiful presence and give your opinion on this CRT?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    No. Although I appreciate your kind approach.
    Sacchan
    Ello, which one so you think is more defensive, Acausality type 5 or NEP2?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Probably Acausal Type 5. The question is just "which power do authors write about, and write characters overcoming, more often"; I think NEP2's more common, so more characters would be able to get past it.
    Anime_Facts
    Hi agnaa, sorry to bother you, I would like to ask a question regarding medaka box, as you are one of the biggest contributors to the verse

    Are there any moments in the manga that indicate that Iihiko's irreversible destruction can bypass conventional durability? or is this deduced from the fact that he killed Ajimu?
    By the way, what do you think about the Iihiko>Ajimu scale? do you think it's possible or is it just because of Medaka's narrative that heroes and protagonists will always defeat Ajimu?
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    Him killing Ajimu is the most concrete thing, and even that isn't too conclusive. His ability's also just generally weird, the damage he can cause with, say, glasses without damaging them is a very tiny amount of evidence in favour of durability negation, but I don't think it's really good enough.

    The reason him killing Ajimu is important, is because actually scaling him to Ajimu gets really wack really quickly. Him getting injured by a vehicle and being able to be killed by Testament are the most obvious things, but there's also the fact that he wasn't able to OHKO Zenkichi, Kumagawa, and that Shiranui lady the first time we saw him, and then he failed to OHKO the style users when he adopted Shiranui's body. Hell, him only destroying the hospital (and not a much wider area) is also a bit strange. There's a bunch of contradictions you'd have to reckon with if you took that seriously, although I'm not sure which link in the chain is the one that should be discredited (Ajimu being supremely above the rest of the cast and universal or Iihiko scaling to Ajimu).

    You could say it's because of the main-character-ness that he scales but that's weird. We don't really know how it functions, so to say it amps his strength to the point where he can one-shot Ajimu, but in other scenes he can't one-shot random schmucks is wack. If we actually took that into a vs-debating context, would we consider him to just have a 1 in 10 chance to one-shot anyone at or below universal? It's possible but it's weird. Debating those parts of Medaka Box in general is weird.
    Anime_Facts
    Anime_Facts
    I think I managed to understand the problems with the scaling, thanks for the answer
    NikHelton
    Good afternoon, tell me, can we use anime features for Mob Psycho 100? 2 members of the calculation group have already approved calcs, one of them approves the use of anime feats, and also one of the moderators (Plank69) approved the use of anime for calculations.

    We also have a statement that ONE advised the writers and animators when writing all 3 seasons, including combat scenes, and also helped in the creation and actively participated in season 3.
    The exploits of the manga are specific because of his style of drawing, but in the anime everything is revealed in full and given that he consulted the authors, everything went according to his idea and new scenes too.
    Agnaa
    Agnaa
    idk, ask the supporters.

    Usually adaptations are allowed to be used to more clearly discern details for calcs if its representation of the scene doesn't diverge too much from the original.
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