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Much as I'm bummed that Goku had to take a third L - all to the same guy, no less - yeah, it's a pretty good episode.
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Seems so yeah.
I MUCH prefer Sukuna vs Akemura Soga but that MU is def not happening until many years down the line.
Arkenis
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If they have Sukuna lose after already handing Yuji an L, people are gonna go insane.
More so than they already are, anyway.
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Yeah passive death hax kinda makes it kinda stomp-ish for Akemura and the only thing Sukuna has to counter is probably Mahoraga?The Bachi bros say Soga wins passively
But I feel character and theme wise, they go together really well. They share a lot of similar yet polar opposite characteristics, and they'd definitely DESPISE each other I'll tell you that.
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Connections for those curious.
I've been seeing Akemura Soga vs Ryomen Sukuna (Kagurabachi vs Jujutsu Kaisen) going around on twitter recently and I honestly really fw it? A lot moreso than a lot of other Sukuna MUs.
Basic connections for those curious:
- Antagonistic uncles of the main protagonist from a previous era, and were hailed as the "strongest" of their respective era.
- Both were raised into a world based highly on combat (Sukuna had to survive as a wretch in Heian era while Akemura was trained since young to become a swordsman)
- Both were well known for causing a well known massacres that would be known for years to come, to the point the strongest fighters of their era would join together to fight them, only for them to fail (Sukuna would be opposed by the sun, moon and stars squads only to annihilate them, and go on to cause widespread chaos across Japan. Akemura would commit genocide on the Islanders, leading to his fellow sword bearers to team up against him, but Akemura proved too powerful)
- Both are sealed through unconventional means (Sukuna allowed himself to be turned into fingers while Akemura willingly surrendered himself after he was done with his genocide)
- Both would return in the modern era by an outside force who also has some connection to the protagonist (Kenjaku planned for Sukuna to take Yuji as his vessel while Yura attempted to get Akemura as his ally)
- Both have a space cutting attack.
- Both are Japanese tradionalists.
- Both are polar opposites to one in another in background and ideology. Sukuna is heavily implied to be born as an unwanted peasant while Akemura hails from a royal bloodline. Sukuna believes the strongest should live purely for themselves, while Akemura believes the strongest should "protect" the weak by eliminating any potential threat to Japan.
Debate wise, while their physical stats aren't too far apart if you take JJK high ends, Akemura's kit is honestly kinda too busted for Sukuna (Passive life absorption + Death hax is a massive ooooof), and Mahoraga and WCS are probably his biggest chance at victory here. But I think with the way their powers work, I think there's heavy amounts of potential for great choreography, as well as Akemura insect theme shockwaves attacks going against Sukuna's fancy slashes.
I think banter and character interaction would also be really fun to do given how polar opposites they are, they would absolutely despise each other. there's also the fact that Sukuna likes to speak in a very poetic and grandiose manner while Akemura is very casual in his tone, I think it would make a funny contrast.
The biggest problem is that Akemura is pretty new to the party, having just made his major debut in december, and considering the Kagurabachi anime is coming out in only next year, I don't see this MU being done anytime soon.
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Muzan Kibutsuji
Muzan Kibutsuji (鬼舞きぶ辻つじ 無む惨ざん, Kibutsuji Muzan?) is the main antagonist of Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba. He is the King of Demons, the first of his kind, as well as the progenitor of all other demons in existence. Muzan is also the leader of the Twelve Kizuki, an organization of the twelve...
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Apparently VSBW's controversial Demon Slayer stats match DB's JJK stats in AP (Low 7-B) and massively blitz in speed (Relativistic vs MHS) (thanks Dabura lol)
What are the chances Sukuna gets robbed? DB has bought more divisive stats than Low 7-B DS
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Depends on if DB happens to buy those high ends ig. If yes, then oof.
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I don't know, It seems to switch between King Picollo, Asura from Soul Eater or Kars.
Muzan is also between them.
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Sukuna losing to Muzan would be a generation fallout and slander
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Ya know, thinking about it, Mahoraga seems like he'd be really annoying for a show like Death Battle to have to deal with. How long does he take to adapt to X ability? What does that adaptation look like? Questions like that are important to determining how much he contributes to the fight, and yet they'd both also be completely up to Death Battle's own interpretation, and you know how people would feel about that. Especially if Sukuna lost.
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Yeah, however I do think it is still really interesting to cover and it's definitely one of the most interesting parts of Sukuna's whole kit. And a useful for a fight like this.
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Oh god, get King Piccolo out of there
Kars would be a pretty cool choice IMO, but I don't really know if he's got that kinda motion at this point. Would people like that?
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Oh for sure, I didn't mean to imply that he shouldn't have it. I just feel bad for the crew for when they inevitably have to figure it out for an episode.
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At least they're eachothers best MU. Like, Goku vs Superman is and should be the face of battleboarding, so to get a great fight out of it even with Goku losing for the 3rd time? It's all I could ever ask for. It's my favorite DB of all time.
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King Piccolo is legit ass as an mu. Kars would be fine but I feel he wouldn't rack in as many views ngl.Oh god, get King Piccolo out of there
That bum is obviously only city level anyway lmao /s
Kars would be a pretty cool choice IMO, but I don't really know if he's got that kinda motion at this point. Would people like that?
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Agree that it's a bad MU, but I could see King Piccolo happening. But only if they think Sukuna wins (which, to be clear, I personally don't). I could imagine it being framed as him being outstatted but winning through hax. I don't think that would make anyone happy, though.
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I don't think even out-haxing could be argued with DBs reasonings. I'm pretty sure they already scale even OG Dragon Ball characters to moon level, and I'm certain they also have them faster than MHS.
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Great second thumbnail
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"FNAF World/outer scaling"
"Jason actually exists in another dimension"
"Sadako is 5D"
Don't go on reddit, it's bad for your health.
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"FNAF World/outer scaling"
"Jason actually exists in another dimension"
"Sadako is 5D"
Don't go on reddit, it's bad for your health.
I believe these statements.
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I don't have anything in regards to FNAF in truth, I know nothing about that verse.
Sadako is absolutely (probably) not 5D. The blog about Sadako vs Slenderman and Sadako analysis blog reference completely unusable Chinese bootleg movies to try and justify those 5D and universal stats, neither of which are supported by officially licensed Kadokowa media. There are some untranslated materials that I'm going through, but other than additional powers and regeneration feats, there's nothing to suggest she's that strong in AP.
There was a Jason vs Killer Croc blog awhile back that somehow extrapolated from quotes regarding Jason's aversion and hatred of life, that Jason's essence emanates from an Anti-Life dimension. Their strongest evidence is a quote saying "Kinship was something that other living humans felt for other living humans. Jason Voorhees wouldn't have felt anything like that if he had been human and the concept did not exist in the realm of anti-life." To say that, from that quote, it must be in reference to an actual anti-life realm rather than just something to juxtapose Jason's nature from that of living organisms, that he lacks compassion and comradery, is ridiculous.
I mean, Jason Voorhees is my #1 GOAT, so if you got something that says otherwise, I'd legit love to see it.
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"FNAF World/outer scaling"
"Jason actually exists in another dimension"
"Sadako is 5D"
Don't go on reddit, it's bad for your health.
doesn't 5D Sadako come from the novels and it's some weird R>F thing?
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Muzan's only L is ap and that's something Sukuna barely has above him too. They'll likely use movie stuff to argue for Muzan.
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How high does the movies buff him?
Arkenis
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Think there's a h7c calc for Akaza's fists.
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Can’t believe they put an Icelandic singer in GoW
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Anyone here like Funny Valentine vs Yoru?
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It's ok ig? I feel interaction, they'd definitely DESPISE each other and could make some decent banter, but connections wise, it's not as interesting as Armstrong vs Valentine.
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Plus, Armstrong vs Valentine is just innately funny. A senator fighting the president himself? You can get a lot of milage out of that.
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Better than irl political scandals
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Wasn't Bakugou rated as a High 7-C in the DB match?
I don't understand why they don't scale him up to 6-C before Deku and Shigaraki.
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Because he didnt need all that to kill Reze, its just overkill at that point
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The sheer lack of faith in Sentry for the next episode is hilarious. One guy I saw said this was "SpongeBob vs Super Friends Aquaman" levels of stomp where he gets blitzed and retcon punched out of existence by Prime.
I don't disagree, but it really shows people do NOT expect Bob to win at all.
I don't disagree, but it really shows people do NOT expect Bob to win at all.
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I feel like in stats Sentry comes short, but people act like he isnt overall haxed and near immortal
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