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Honestly, I'm tired of the pile of repetitive videos about their match. Someone's trying to give Yuji the same level of Country and FTL
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I was actually glad that Homelander was getting decent matches. His fight against Megamind's flying incel was awesome.We DONT talk about that bro
That was embarrassing
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Where does the mountain come from, lol?
At best, it's City + MHS Yuji vs. Mountain + Relativistic Denji. Yuji at best scales to Purple and Fugue. Denji should scale to Gun Goddess.
Although, I see it as Large Town and Hypersonic Yuji vs. City and MHS Denji
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I saw a calc of the Modulo feat from the G1 blog (even tho their overall scaling is ehhh)
Homelander is the GOAT. Bro is a TRUE hero. He is the STRONGEST
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How does Denji scale to gun goddess when it literally blasted him to pieces?
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It's just a flesh wound.He looks fine to me
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This is still so funny to me, everyone keeps trying to scale the Gun Goddess to Pochita when it turned him into a literal heartbeat, even his teeth got ****** up. 
He stood looking like one of the dried up roaches you find on the sidewalk during the day.
He stood looking like one of the dried up roaches you find on the sidewalk during the day.
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This is still so funny to me, everyone keeps trying to scale the Gun Goddess to Pochita when it turned him into a literal heartbeat, even his teeth got ****** up.
He stood looking like one of the dried up roaches you find on the sidewalk during the day.
It was a sad Pochita. Now he'd drunk some blood, eaten a hamburger, watched Denji find himself a hottie, and was at the peak of his powers.
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He wouldn't have it any other way
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CSM powerscalers are the only people I’ve seen who will look at a character get turned into mincemeat by an attack and then say they scale to it. It’s the most insane shit I’ve seen in a while.He looks fine to me
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what's more embarrassing is how they convinced themselves that cutting ben 10's hand was gonna give green lantern the win (
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I’m betting Denji rooting yuji
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btw is that a honkai: star rail pfp???son
i played the game, but got bored mid-way lol. it had pretty cool fighting mechanics though.
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Yep. I am a Honkai player. I love the game despite its flaws
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Oh, hello new poster. I recommend not talking about BenHal for your sanity.
New DB in 2 n half hours.
New DB in 2 n half hours.
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Is your future worth more or less than 1300 dollars?
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Still can't believe weekly lost a band over Rwby 
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The next AOT Death Battle match is Levi vs. Soshiro Hoshina/Yoriichi.
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And thinks it was worth it becoming a circus over itStill can't believe weekly lost a band over Rwby
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Just inserting my copium here because eh why not.
Totally not copium over Sentry vs Superboy Prime
Main theme: Well meaning heroes who are often portrayed as one of the strongest beings on Earth, and have the potential to be greater, but their mental instability and fear of letting their inner darkness take over cause them to be at odds with their comrades, and often cause conflict within themselves. Both are even often portrayed to be like unstable wild cards, and have even (unintentionally) turned into powerful villains at some point and gave in into their deepest fears. With their darkest selves being synonymous with the apocalypse in some shape or form.
Theme name: The Nuclear End
Connections:
- Both initially start out as regular humans, with troubled backgrounds that would later affect their mental health later in life (Nathaniel grew up under an abusive and neglectful household, with his older sister being forced to act as a parental figure for him while he was still young and helpless, later influencing his obsessive need for control over his own life. Robert had a troubled childhood, was a victim of bullying and became a struggling meth addict)
- Both would go through a horrible situation, which lead to a chain of events that would have them gain their powers through experiments from the government (Nathaniel was framed for murder of a superior officer and as punishment, became a test subject for the US government regarding an unknown alien spacecraft, with the metal bonding to his skin and sending him to the future. While looking for more drugs to consume, Robert drank the Golden Sentry Serum, which granted him his powers)
- The creators of said experiments would attempt to control them both after they gained their powers, with opposite levels of success (Nathaniel would eventually be blackmailed by the US government to act as a superhero in order to infiltrate the Justice league International, with Nathaniel continuously trying to break free of the the government's clutches. The creators of the Sentry Serum would attempt to contain Robert in fear of what he was capable of, but Robert would set off to simply do his own thing)
- Both draw power from mysterious cosmic forces (Nathaniel draws his power from the Quantum Field, while Robert draws power from both the Serum and the Void, which in itself has very confusing origins)
- Both have generally similar power set (The ability to manipulate matter, warp reality, emit energy blasts and draw power from other sources in order to enhance their strength)
- Both were prominent all-star heroes in their early debuts (Captain Atom would be one of the most popular heroes of the early Post-Crisis era and was a member of the Justice League International as well as other following superhero teams, with Nathaniel even leading some teams like Extreme Justice. Sentry was considered to be the greatest hero on earth, becoming a role model for the likes of Spider-Man and even close friends with many heroes, notably Reed Richards and the Hulk)
- Despite their trouble backgrounds, both still expressed a desire to use their powers for the greater good of others.
- Overtime, both would grow to learn about the destructive nature of their powers and how it fed into their darker selves (Nathaniel discovered that him exploding caused him to be a great liability to not only himself but to others, and his discovery over the higher extent of his powers would slowly begin to erode Nathaniel's connection to humanity overtime. Robert would discover he had a dark alter ego known as the Void, and for many years to come, would fight internally ensure he held the Void at bay, even erasing his memory from the world to keep it safe)
- Both would be "forgotten" by the world albeit through unorthodox means (Nathaniel was sent 20 years into the future by the experiment, while Robert, with the help of other heroes, would erase the memory of the Sentry from the world in order to seal the Void away)
- Both of them would suffer from multiple forms of identity crisis, having to deal with alternate versions of themselves, which in itself lead to them struggling to form proper bonds with other people in their life (Nathaniel literally being a man out of time meant he struggled to re-integrate into civilian life, constantly having to deal with the world and relationships he missed out on, and never being able to get closure with dead wife. Robert would constantly distant himself from others, having to deal with both his Sentry persona and Void persona, it would constantly put him at odds with others in his life, notably his wife and sidekick, Billy)
- Both would have to deal with the possibility that their seeming true "heroic" self are merely copies of their original selves, both of which had become their dark sides (Extreme Justice has a very weird plot point in which it implies the Captain Atom we know is a quantum clone of the original Nathaniel, who now takes the identity of Monarch. This plot line has sort of been forgotten over the years. The Sentry 2005 run implies that Robert actually became the Void, with Sentry simply being a byproduct of his guilt and desire to be a better man)
- At some low point, and by some outside influence, both would give into their darker selves and begin to "play God" (Three occasions for Nathaniel. In his original run, upon discovering the true extents of the Quantum Field with help from Rasputin, Nathaniel would construct his own universe and begin to play God, constant destroying over and over again when something didn't go his way. Nathaniel would later gain amnesia in a later story arc and become the multiversal conqueror Monarch, properly this time. And would possibly become a universe destroying monster called "Chrono-Mota". Sentry would be manipulated by Norman Osborn by faking empathy with his identity crisis, and would be a member of the Dark Avengers, with Sentry even unleashing the Void onto Asgard in a later conflict. Sentry has also been emotionally tricked on other occasions, which in themselves have led him to unleash the Void)
- These darker traits would put him at odds with other heroes later on (Due to what happened with Monarch, many became hesitant with letting Nathaniel join the Justice League again. While Robert earned a spot back on the Avengers, they did become wary of his situation and would install multiple contingencies in the scenario the Void broke out again)
- Eventually both would find a way to make peace with their inner demons and find it in themselves to confront them once and for all (At the end of his original run, Nathaniel finally accepted what happened as a child wasn't his fault, and that not everything can be controlled, giving him the will to face down his dark self that the Quantum Field had spawned due to Nathaniel's earlier shenanigans. Sentry has kind of done this on a few occasions, both in his 2005 and 2018 run, in where Robert accepts that the Void is truly an aspect of himself and would learn to find ways to live with it, and would even merge with him in the 2018 run)
- Despite this though, both would continue to struggle with their own internal demons from time to time, with both even going solo in order to distance themselves from others (Nathaniel would still struggle with his God complex from time to time, and even chose to hide himself away like in The Atom Project. Robert has also kept himself away from others in order to control himself and the Void, in fear of him potentially lashing out and letting loose)
- Both are known to hold back their powers due to fear of the immense damage they could cause and their knowledge of how highly destructive they can be in battle.
- Both while unleashing their darker selves, have defeated the most powerful heroes on Earth (As Monarch, Nathaniel has defeated the likes of Superman and many others. As the Void, Robert was capable of even overpowering Hulk, to the point of Hulk showing fear, as well as it requiring Earth's heroes to unite against the Void)
- Both kind of have a habit of "dying" and getting brought back to life (Nathaniel has his whole infamous schtick of "blowing up" and getting tossed around the timeline. Sentry has died on a few occasions but came back resurrected one way or another)
- On a semi-unrelated note, both have multiple selves albeit in different ways. Due to multiple continuity errors within DC, Captain Atom technically has like 3 other versions of him still going around (Extreme Justice Monarch, New 52 Firestrom, and Generation Lost)
Debate Potential: Generally stats wise, these two cane easily be argued to be high level heralds tiers, capable of going toe to toe with famous juggernauts like Hulk and Superman, and have debatable even greater high end feats. Ability wise, they also both share similar capabilities like reality warping, energy blasts, matter manipulation and many others. I'd argue Sentry is a bit more versatile but I do think CA has several things like absorption that serves as good counters to a lot of Sentry's stuff.
Animation Potential: Really high given that these two have way more than being flying bricks. Their control over matter and reality can provide some really creative stuff and environment changes, but the biggest selling point is the Void vs Monarch just due to how polar they are (Total destruction vs Total domination). The Void's more unorthodox powers and abilities would also shake things up for animation, in conjunction with Monarch's reality shattering and absorption capabilities.
Story set-up: I think these two would definitely share a form of mutual respect if they both knew what the other had been through in their life and their struggles with their darker side. My ideal set up is something like Iron Man vs Batman where they exist in a world where Marvel/DC co-exists. Sentry is seemingly unstable and Captain Atom is reluctantly deployed to contain him. Nathaniel tries to talk it out with Robert but to no avail eventually the two begin to come to blows, as the battle progresses and Sentry begins to let loose, The Void begins taking over and begins messing with Natheniel's head. As Nathaniel struggles to maintain control, he eventually gives in and uses his absorption capabilities to turn himself into Monarch. The two also have a really conflicting theme, that being The Void's for complete destruction vs Monarch's need for domination. Chaos vs Control. Now that the playing field is evened out, the two would duke it out till they both begin to lose power, akin to the ending of SimonKyle or Sentry vs Hulk, and the two face down one final time as just their regular selves.
This is honestly one of my favourite Marvel/DC match ups and seeing Sentry go against SBP is.... disappointing to say the least, but frankly, it's not the worst MU ever and it could honestly be a lot worse.
Totally not copium over Sentry vs Superboy Prime
Main theme: Well meaning heroes who are often portrayed as one of the strongest beings on Earth, and have the potential to be greater, but their mental instability and fear of letting their inner darkness take over cause them to be at odds with their comrades, and often cause conflict within themselves. Both are even often portrayed to be like unstable wild cards, and have even (unintentionally) turned into powerful villains at some point and gave in into their deepest fears. With their darkest selves being synonymous with the apocalypse in some shape or form.
Theme name: The Nuclear End
Connections:
- Both initially start out as regular humans, with troubled backgrounds that would later affect their mental health later in life (Nathaniel grew up under an abusive and neglectful household, with his older sister being forced to act as a parental figure for him while he was still young and helpless, later influencing his obsessive need for control over his own life. Robert had a troubled childhood, was a victim of bullying and became a struggling meth addict)
- Both would go through a horrible situation, which lead to a chain of events that would have them gain their powers through experiments from the government (Nathaniel was framed for murder of a superior officer and as punishment, became a test subject for the US government regarding an unknown alien spacecraft, with the metal bonding to his skin and sending him to the future. While looking for more drugs to consume, Robert drank the Golden Sentry Serum, which granted him his powers)
- The creators of said experiments would attempt to control them both after they gained their powers, with opposite levels of success (Nathaniel would eventually be blackmailed by the US government to act as a superhero in order to infiltrate the Justice league International, with Nathaniel continuously trying to break free of the the government's clutches. The creators of the Sentry Serum would attempt to contain Robert in fear of what he was capable of, but Robert would set off to simply do his own thing)
- Both draw power from mysterious cosmic forces (Nathaniel draws his power from the Quantum Field, while Robert draws power from both the Serum and the Void, which in itself has very confusing origins)
- Both have generally similar power set (The ability to manipulate matter, warp reality, emit energy blasts and draw power from other sources in order to enhance their strength)
- Both were prominent all-star heroes in their early debuts (Captain Atom would be one of the most popular heroes of the early Post-Crisis era and was a member of the Justice League International as well as other following superhero teams, with Nathaniel even leading some teams like Extreme Justice. Sentry was considered to be the greatest hero on earth, becoming a role model for the likes of Spider-Man and even close friends with many heroes, notably Reed Richards and the Hulk)
- Despite their trouble backgrounds, both still expressed a desire to use their powers for the greater good of others.
- Overtime, both would grow to learn about the destructive nature of their powers and how it fed into their darker selves (Nathaniel discovered that him exploding caused him to be a great liability to not only himself but to others, and his discovery over the higher extent of his powers would slowly begin to erode Nathaniel's connection to humanity overtime. Robert would discover he had a dark alter ego known as the Void, and for many years to come, would fight internally ensure he held the Void at bay, even erasing his memory from the world to keep it safe)
- Both would be "forgotten" by the world albeit through unorthodox means (Nathaniel was sent 20 years into the future by the experiment, while Robert, with the help of other heroes, would erase the memory of the Sentry from the world in order to seal the Void away)
- Both of them would suffer from multiple forms of identity crisis, having to deal with alternate versions of themselves, which in itself lead to them struggling to form proper bonds with other people in their life (Nathaniel literally being a man out of time meant he struggled to re-integrate into civilian life, constantly having to deal with the world and relationships he missed out on, and never being able to get closure with dead wife. Robert would constantly distant himself from others, having to deal with both his Sentry persona and Void persona, it would constantly put him at odds with others in his life, notably his wife and sidekick, Billy)
- Both would have to deal with the possibility that their seeming true "heroic" self are merely copies of their original selves, both of which had become their dark sides (Extreme Justice has a very weird plot point in which it implies the Captain Atom we know is a quantum clone of the original Nathaniel, who now takes the identity of Monarch. This plot line has sort of been forgotten over the years. The Sentry 2005 run implies that Robert actually became the Void, with Sentry simply being a byproduct of his guilt and desire to be a better man)
- At some low point, and by some outside influence, both would give into their darker selves and begin to "play God" (Three occasions for Nathaniel. In his original run, upon discovering the true extents of the Quantum Field with help from Rasputin, Nathaniel would construct his own universe and begin to play God, constant destroying over and over again when something didn't go his way. Nathaniel would later gain amnesia in a later story arc and become the multiversal conqueror Monarch, properly this time. And would possibly become a universe destroying monster called "Chrono-Mota". Sentry would be manipulated by Norman Osborn by faking empathy with his identity crisis, and would be a member of the Dark Avengers, with Sentry even unleashing the Void onto Asgard in a later conflict. Sentry has also been emotionally tricked on other occasions, which in themselves have led him to unleash the Void)
- These darker traits would put him at odds with other heroes later on (Due to what happened with Monarch, many became hesitant with letting Nathaniel join the Justice League again. While Robert earned a spot back on the Avengers, they did become wary of his situation and would install multiple contingencies in the scenario the Void broke out again)
- Eventually both would find a way to make peace with their inner demons and find it in themselves to confront them once and for all (At the end of his original run, Nathaniel finally accepted what happened as a child wasn't his fault, and that not everything can be controlled, giving him the will to face down his dark self that the Quantum Field had spawned due to Nathaniel's earlier shenanigans. Sentry has kind of done this on a few occasions, both in his 2005 and 2018 run, in where Robert accepts that the Void is truly an aspect of himself and would learn to find ways to live with it, and would even merge with him in the 2018 run)
- Despite this though, both would continue to struggle with their own internal demons from time to time, with both even going solo in order to distance themselves from others (Nathaniel would still struggle with his God complex from time to time, and even chose to hide himself away like in The Atom Project. Robert has also kept himself away from others in order to control himself and the Void, in fear of him potentially lashing out and letting loose)
- Both are known to hold back their powers due to fear of the immense damage they could cause and their knowledge of how highly destructive they can be in battle.
- Both while unleashing their darker selves, have defeated the most powerful heroes on Earth (As Monarch, Nathaniel has defeated the likes of Superman and many others. As the Void, Robert was capable of even overpowering Hulk, to the point of Hulk showing fear, as well as it requiring Earth's heroes to unite against the Void)
- Both kind of have a habit of "dying" and getting brought back to life (Nathaniel has his whole infamous schtick of "blowing up" and getting tossed around the timeline. Sentry has died on a few occasions but came back resurrected one way or another)
- On a semi-unrelated note, both have multiple selves albeit in different ways. Due to multiple continuity errors within DC, Captain Atom technically has like 3 other versions of him still going around (Extreme Justice Monarch, New 52 Firestrom, and Generation Lost)
Debate Potential: Generally stats wise, these two cane easily be argued to be high level heralds tiers, capable of going toe to toe with famous juggernauts like Hulk and Superman, and have debatable even greater high end feats. Ability wise, they also both share similar capabilities like reality warping, energy blasts, matter manipulation and many others. I'd argue Sentry is a bit more versatile but I do think CA has several things like absorption that serves as good counters to a lot of Sentry's stuff.
Animation Potential: Really high given that these two have way more than being flying bricks. Their control over matter and reality can provide some really creative stuff and environment changes, but the biggest selling point is the Void vs Monarch just due to how polar they are (Total destruction vs Total domination). The Void's more unorthodox powers and abilities would also shake things up for animation, in conjunction with Monarch's reality shattering and absorption capabilities.
Story set-up: I think these two would definitely share a form of mutual respect if they both knew what the other had been through in their life and their struggles with their darker side. My ideal set up is something like Iron Man vs Batman where they exist in a world where Marvel/DC co-exists. Sentry is seemingly unstable and Captain Atom is reluctantly deployed to contain him. Nathaniel tries to talk it out with Robert but to no avail eventually the two begin to come to blows, as the battle progresses and Sentry begins to let loose, The Void begins taking over and begins messing with Natheniel's head. As Nathaniel struggles to maintain control, he eventually gives in and uses his absorption capabilities to turn himself into Monarch. The two also have a really conflicting theme, that being The Void's for complete destruction vs Monarch's need for domination. Chaos vs Control. Now that the playing field is evened out, the two would duke it out till they both begin to lose power, akin to the ending of SimonKyle or Sentry vs Hulk, and the two face down one final time as just their regular selves.
This is honestly one of my favourite Marvel/DC match ups and seeing Sentry go against SBP is.... disappointing to say the least, but frankly, it's not the worst MU ever and it could honestly be a lot worse.
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This is still so funny to me, everyone keeps trying to scale the Gun Goddess to Pochita when it turned him into a literal heartbeat, even his teeth got ****** up.
He stood looking like one of the dried up roaches you find on the sidewalk during the day.
It's not a perfect 1 to 1 but don't people scale shiggy to the lasers despite the fact that they were almost out damaging his heals and to top it off the tiamat missiles were going to kill shiggy had he not dug underground right? but people scale shiggy's durability to those attacks at the time. I mean Pochita didn't die he did technically tank the hit since he wasn't completely vaporized head and torso still left. He didn't die either. Was he still conscious? I am pretty sure he was.. It's implied shiggy would have been vaporized but Pochita still had his head and torso. Don't some people argue wolverines durability based on his adamantium skeleton too? So if wolverines entire skin and muscles gets vaporized as long as he is not dead and his adamantium skeleton is still in tact he "tanks" the hit but this standard isn't applied to Pochita for some reason.
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No one scales Wolverine to planet level or whatever because people explicitly know he can only survive those attacks due to his adamantium skeleton. It’s very common sense.
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That's his biology though so why wouldn't he scale if his biology allows him to survive such attacks? It's not like having adamantium which is just very durable material would constitute as an invalidate way to scale Wolverines durability. No idea why you're trying to argue "can't scale him" to his own physiology/biology. Makes no sense. His adamantium skeleton is not some random hax shield he conjured that he wouldn't scale to due to hax conjuring. That's his actual biological skeleton. You like to argue but what are you talking about here? Of course if he doesn't die and only his durable skeleton is left then yes his durability scales to that.
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Are you dumb? How is an adamantium skeleton his biology? Was Wolverine born with adamantium? No. You might as well argue Wolverine is on par with the Hulk because he’s fought him a few times. Extremely dishonest line of thinking.
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Relax on the name calling my man, its not that serious.
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His bones are coated in adamantium, simple as that
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Because he is a mutant now so it is his biology he doesn't need to be born a mutant with adamantium for his present biological reality to be true. It's like arguing any evolutions to a character's biology is invalid because they weren't "born" with said biology. This is such a silly argument
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I remember the profiles on this site said Wolverine was Complex Multi because his claws wounded Thor. Hell, the profiles still say he's Uni.
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Those are only for his claws. He himself don't physically scale to them.
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There's probably a comic panel where he stabbed himself with his claws.
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