DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Base Ultron does his taxes while folding Metal and that should not be a controversial statement.

Not by our current profiles he doesn't.

 

[Da3ggman]

Not by our current profiles he doesn't.

Sonic is now on the list.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Sonic is now on the list.

 

[Fireld]

Multiversal ++++ sandwich

crazy downplay, sandwich's way higher

Ironically yes, he copied Dr. Eggman's personality and intelligence prior to IDW's start and that's what he says when he revealed himself as Neo Metal.

and egghead's megalomania in heroes

 

[Doggo]

Kinda shocked that we still don't have an isekai character on the show

Stuff like Re:Zero or Tensura is gonna deliver a crap ton of views

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Yo Joe get the **** out of the ring

 

[OrangeFR]

Yes actually. Ultron is Low 1-C while Metal in both his Metal Overlord and Super Neo forms are 1-C.

6-D Sonic is genuinely powerscaling brainrot slop

 

[TMaakkonen]

Anything 4D or beyond is 99.999% time slop :VVVVV

 

[OrangeFR]

Anything 4D or beyond is 99.999% time slop :VVVVV

You cannot genuinely tell me Sonic Team knows what the **** a hypertimeline is

 

[Da3ggman]

6-D Sonic is genuinely powerscaling brainrot slop

Most definitely, but no ones brave enough to do a proper rundown on it.

Also Sonic is off the list I aint touching that shit

 

[Dust_Collector]

We never had any need to go beyond 2-A for powerscaling, I refuse to accept the existence of "High Complex Mulitverse level" that shit is so ass

 

[TMaakkonen]

You cannot genuinely tell me Sonic Team knows what the **** a hypertimeline is

Of course not but his opponent is also not beyond conventional spacial dimensions lmao

 

[Snek]

We never had any need to go beyond 2-A for powerscaling, I refuse to accept the existence of "High Complex Mulitverse level" that shit is so ass

Blame the Cthulu mythos. And maybe Marvel and DC while you're at it.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Higher dimensional shit is technically fine but holy **** if anyone is 3D they should basically be denied to be given full access to higher D shit.

 

[Thunderman101]

is paper mario really canon? I still feel iffy about giving bowser the pure hearts, wasnt it only his paper version whos ever used it

 

[TMaakkonen]

is paper mario really canon? I still feel iffy about giving bowser the pure hearts, wasnt it only his paper version whos ever used it

Its only issue since Sticker Star and beyond made Paper Mario actually into a craft entity and all that Paper Jam jazz. Its essentially a retcon.

Mind you DB likes compositing so Mario + Paper Mario is a-ok to them.

 

[Thunderman101]

alright im actually really ******* suprised we havent gotten Man Thing Vs Swamp Thing

 

[Dust_Collector]

is paper mario really canon? I still feel iffy about giving bowser the pure hearts, wasnt it only his paper version whos ever used it

It's canon but an alternate universe, well at least after Paper Jam, before then they did consider Paper Mario as mostly an artstyle thing but then they were like nah actually different universe. But given certain things like Paper Mario on the N64 still being called a previous adventure along with the likes of the classic games and Super Mario 64 in the Superstar remake that came out after Paper Jam, and weird stuff like Paper Jam being randomly excluded from a wall in Origami King showing Princess Peach in previous Paper Mario games people are really mixed on that. Sticker Star onwards making the paper thing just bluntly how the world is instead of an artstyle that sometimes has a quick gag about them being able to become a paper airplane or something doesn't help with them being one and the same anymore.

 

[Thunderman101]

Man thing vs swamp thing 2026 rahhhhh

 

[Fezzih_007]

 

[TMaakkonen]

While I respect Thing vs Thing MU, we are good on capeshit MUs.

Doesnt Swamp stomp even after Man's buffs?

 

[Thunderman101]

While I respect Thing vs Thing MU, we are good on capeshit MUs.

Doesnt Swamp stomp even after Man's buffs?

Eh depends on what you buy for both. Its not nessecarily that bad they have more connections then just thing vs thing

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

6-D Sonic is genuinely powerscaling brainrot slop

Even giving Metal the benefit of the doubt and assuming he has the AP advantage, Ultron can just transfer his consciousness to another machine or backup bodies if destroyed. So Metal can't really put him down.

 

[Fezzih_007]

is paper mario really canon? I still feel iffy about giving bowser the pure hearts, wasnt it only his paper version whos ever used it

G1 blog made a document about the evidence for It and against, If Paper Mario is Canon or not, and some counterpoints.

 

[Thunderman101]

Even giving Metal the benefit of the doubt and assuming he has the AP advantage, Ultron can just transfer his consciousness to another machine or backup bodies if destroyed. So Metal can't really put him down.

the humble chaos contol

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Even giving Metal the benefit of the doubt and assuming he has the AP advantage, Ultron can just transfer his consciousness to another machine or backup bodies if destroyed. So Metal can't really put him down.

That's why I said it was a stalemate because Ultron definitely can't kill Metal either after he copies Ultron.

 

[Joycap]

I recognize Simon and Xeno Goku, the other three are...?

 

[Thunderman101]

I recognize Simon and Xeno Goku, the other three are...?

i think madoka rimiru but idk the one on the far right

 

[AyOgUyS]

the humble chaos contol

how can he control chaos if chaos is by definition uncontrollable? is this logic and law manipulation i see?

 

[Tipper17]

6-D Sonic is genuinely powerscaling brainrot slop

Being real 6D Sonic just sound like massive wank frankly 5D is his most reasonable end for DT SLOP

 

[Fezzih_007]

I recognize Simon and Xeno Goku, the other three are...?

i think madoka rimiru but idk the one on the far right

Is Hecatia from Touhou.

That's why I said it was a stalemate because Ultron definitely can't kill Metal either after he copies Ultron.

Why? Ultron can just hack him.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Blame the Cthulu mythos

That's actually an interesting point to consider: while some might point to DC and Marvel comics as being where higher dimensional power scaling originates from, I'd actually argue that it was the Cthulhu Mythos that really popularized it. Hell I'm pretty sure that the term "Outerversal" was inspired from the Cthulhu Mythos so that's pretty influential to say the least.

You cannot genuinely tell me Sonic Team knows what the **** a hypertimeline is

I myself am not a fan of hypertimeline Sonic, I firmly consider Game Sonic 5-D at his max, but I don't think saying things like "the author doesn't know about insert power scaling term here" negates its authenticity. Like whether or not we all agree with this wiki's standards and tiering system, if something like Game Sonic qualifies by the standards of having a hypertimeline then it is what it is, regardless of author input.

 

[Thunderman101]

Death Battle is quality slop

People only like it cause its good smh

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Is Hecatia from Touhou.

Why? Ultron can just hack him.

Because I've explained this like five times already. Whenever Metal copies someone's abilities he gains resistances to them, meaning Ultron can't hack him after that and stacking that on top of the Super Form's already shown resistance to Cyber stuff just compounds it further.

 

[Fezzih_007]

meaning Ultron can't hack him after that

But Ultron can just hack his own resistances tho.

To be more precise, his hack will just get better to eventually hack Metal Sonic copied resistance to hacking.

I don't exactly agree with Metal Sonic getting Resistance to people he copied anyway, the evidence for It is pretty thin.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Maaaaybe 6D Sonic stuff has merit if its how higher dimension should work in general but there is no real evidence in Sonic about 6D specifically.

Maybe that funky "super dimensional" statement implies higher stuff but uhhh it also ironically implies even higher stuff than 6D soooo

Shit is messy lol

 

[Tipper17]