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As this thread's main Wile supporter, i wholeheartedly agree
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Idk eh Knuckles vs Donkey Kong fight still holds up Shadow vs Ryuko was decent
I don't think sonic case is any worse than others like Avatar where the series best episode just ok on a good day
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Still the funniest part of that episode’s reaction was Ian Flynn coming out and saying it was total bullshit.
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Personally I'd say DK's sprite alone knocks that episode down to a 4/10
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Being honest the whole X series lacks any good episode spiel if just something the community just wanna cry victim
i never had a issue with it tbh
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Tipper already said it but Power Rangers is it
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I do think Zelda vs Peach 2 would be quite nice since both got a LOT more stuff since their debut
Also SephiVergil2
Dante vs Clive is such a who cares matchup no one cared for and so badly researched they had to rely on the netflix shitfest to argue Dante's stamina is crap. Which does not really matter since they gave Dante possibly the worst ftl speeds in the season.
Also SephiVergil2
Dante vs Clive is such a who cares matchup no one cared for and so badly researched they had to rely on the netflix shitfest to argue Dante's stamina is crap. Which does not really matter since they gave Dante possibly the worst ftl speeds in the season.
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It'd be even funnier if Metal Sonic ends up joining Batman in 1-3 hell
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Look, Ian is cool, gets way too much hate among Sonic fans, but the Archie comics are not his work (iirc).
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Batman was also an assist in Terry vs Miguel so it’s lowkey 1.5-3
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He wrote for 130 issues.
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I feel like Homelander would be the villian in a fight with Yujiroh.
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Can someone post the "Sonic should be as free as the wind" meme? Just got reminded of it with the Ian Flynn thing.
That Sonic should never show doubts or despair ever like in that metal virus arc.
That Sonic should never show doubts or despair ever like in that metal virus arc.
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That's... the complete opposite message of the meme though.
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I mean relative early Sonic fights were decent at least for their time. Problem kinda was starting S3 Shadow-Amy-Metal-Sonic getting 4 mid to bad episodes in row which did hurt and having more questionable analysis among them didnt help either. WallySonic is good besides that one dialogue and ShadowRyuko is passable average.
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Thats the issue S3-S5 time as a sonic fan didn't help given shit going on with the franchise at the time
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Sorry, didn’t mean to put words in your mouth
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Oh do you mean "You've mastered speed, but I've mastered fate! And I wish you gone, Forever!"
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You could be justified to drop score from that line alone lol
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Rewatched bowsegg and alof of things donr make sense.
For one, they said that the grand stars are better than the chaos emeralds because there are more???
It’s one billion lions vs every Pokémon all over again
For one, they said that the grand stars are better than the chaos emeralds because there are more???
It’s one billion lions vs every Pokémon all over again
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Their logic was that the emeralds were nebulously scaling to multiple timelines branching off the universe due to Solaris, but Bowser has a large supply of Grand Stars, with each one individually having enough juice to blow up the universe without being exhausted. So they just said they were matched at peak with equal leeway, and Bowser is stronger in base anyway.
I don’t necessarily agree with that logic (I have Mario and Sonic characters far below DB or even this wiki) but you can sort of see the internal-consistency if you squint.
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They didn't scale Solaris to multi+ in the narrated description, only in the corner boxes where they acknowledged multi+ and higher dimensional arguments for both Bowser and Eggman. From what I recall, according to one of the casts, they put the Solaris feat at 12 timelines. I think in theory the idea is that the empowerment of the Grand Stars should stack
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As I mentioned before Sonic episodes in the first two seasons were fine it's where s3 started things gone south
Shadow vs Mewtwo is long regarded as a terrible episode that treated shadow dirty and robbed him of a W
Amy vs Ramona was mid
Metal vs Zero was forgettable(still enjoy to some extent) but metal was robbed back then
And the cherry to the crap sundae was Mario vs Sonic 2 where sonic was screwed over badly state wise but characterization was based off how he was done in the 2010s at the time which safe to say wasn't good while fight it left alot to be desired
It wasn't until 2020s sonic episodes started to get back to being good
Wally Vs Archie Sonic had its flaws but still enjoyable
Shadow vs Ryuko was fine
Silver vs Trunks was good
Bowsegg is pretty much the Hallmark episode among the show
So yeah Sonic franchise run on DB so far was much better then it was in the last 10s
Shadow vs Mewtwo is long regarded as a terrible episode that treated shadow dirty and robbed him of a W
Amy vs Ramona was mid
Metal vs Zero was forgettable(still enjoy to some extent) but metal was robbed back then
And the cherry to the crap sundae was Mario vs Sonic 2 where sonic was screwed over badly state wise but characterization was based off how he was done in the 2010s at the time which safe to say wasn't good while fight it left alot to be desired
It wasn't until 2020s sonic episodes started to get back to being good
Wally Vs Archie Sonic had its flaws but still enjoyable
Shadow vs Ryuko was fine
Silver vs Trunks was good
Bowsegg is pretty much the Hallmark episode among the show
So yeah Sonic franchise run on DB so far was much better then it was in the last 10s
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On the note of finding places in Sonic episodes where a whole point drop is warranted that sounds like a fun exercise to try. Here's my list and feel free to disagree with any of these.
Mario vs Sonic 2011 - None. Maybe you could argue Mario's death was a bit much but that's all I could think of. All around fine episode.
Luigi vs Tails - Luigi getting bodied almost the entire time. Although the weird negative space moment was sort of neat. Oh also the raddish scaling for Luigi loses a point on principle no matter how downright hilarious it is.
Shadow vs Mewtwo - The whole episode just in general.
Shadow vs Vegeta - I consider this one mostly a joke fight so it gets a pass on everything but the research, yes even the death which I consider funny rather than bad. So the research. Also I have to say while most of the fight was just Shadow in his super form wailing on Vegeta until the super form ran out the moment when Vegeta punched the moon down was decently cool.
Metal Sonic vs Zero - None. Another fine episode, maybe the worst I could argue is that Metal Sonic should have actually done some damage to Zero but that's it.
Amy vs Ramona - Amy being pissed enough to commit homicide for no reason. Like what was she so mad about lol
. Otherwise okay episode.Donkey Kong vs Knuckles - I honestly don't even remember much of it.
Trunks vs Silver - None. All around good episode.
Shadow vs Ryuko - Ryukos transformation sequence. Maybe that's a hot take but I think they botched it to the point where it looked jarring.
Archie Sonic vs Wally West - "You've mastered speed but I've mastered fate! And I wish you gone. Forever!"
Mario vs Sonic 2018 - Okay I'm going to ignore Sonic punching like a dork even in his Hyper form as that's just the runner up. Sonic getting beat up by Mario in the cat suit felt like a Dorkly skit and why they felt the need to have him get kicked in the balls I will never know. Not to mention the episodes conclusion or Mario being a psycho for no reason, overall bad episode.
Bowser vs Eggman - Orbot, Cubot and Sage signing up to join the Koopa Troop five seconds after Eggmans death. I won't sugarcoat it I viscerally hate that "joke" and think it is an insult to Eggman and Sage as characters. Frankly the "plotting" thought bubble Sage has doesn't save the joke and I'd despise it just as much if Eggman won the episode and the very next scene after Bowser died was Bowser Junior and some Goombas stacking crates for the Eggman Empire or something while they don't visibly look the least bit bothered that Bowser got murdered.
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Silver vs Trunks has lot of issues tbh
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The sfx were kinda shiiiiit there.
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Knux vs Donkey Kong was just a bit stupid to me personally because of them restricting Power-Ups, but I suppose it was alright. Shadow vs Ryuko was cool.
Agreed.
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Knux is probably only Sonic character to win MarioSonic MU in DB atm tbh.
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Ngl at least sonic fans going to eat back to back Ws with Mewtwo vs Shadow 2
Dragon Ball legit going to be dying for a W
Piccolo being the only big name ATP clutching a W for the series is amusing and damning
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DBZ gonna get 3rd 3 loss streak. Strangely all their losses are from streaks iirc.
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True but no one counts Omnidock ngl
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I am a guy who counts all scores and therefore Bardock L counts... Well for me at least.
I also count outdated eps like og eps with remakes. So MC has a win etc.
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Died 3 times, his body was killed, his summon was killed, implied to lose to sponge, his dad died, his DNA will lose in 3 weeks, his only win is him killing himself.
Rough.
Ig he won DBX tho haha
Rough.
Ig he won DBX tho haha
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Piccolo will somehow be fed to Manhunter
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Yeah. The only way things can get worse for Goku is if Cell actually did lose to Metal Sonic and then later Goku vs Sonic happened and Sonic somehow won instead of being Goku's pity win.
These Gokus have gotta stop picking fights with hedgehogs. - Boomstick in 2035 probably.
Edit: As a side note I am of the opinion that Sonic does beat Goku however when I said mentioned Sonic as a pity win I was referring to how Death Battle perceives both characters in their research.
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Vegito won. So Goku has a .5 win on death battle.
Regardless, i fully believe all superman wins are just ragebait for views in cases of emergency.
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