DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Frisk

Frisk is the protagonist of Undertale and the eighth human to fall into the Underground. Virtually nothing is known about their life prior to their fall, as even their gender remains ambiguous. Being taken in by Toriel, they eventually decide to leave and explore the Underground to potentially...

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Dante (Devil May Cry)

Dante (ダンテ?) is the protagonist of the majority of the Devil May Cry series. He, along with his twin brother Vergil, are the product of a romance between the Dark Knight Sparda and a human woman named Eva. After losing his mother to demons as a child, Dante grows up to become a demon-hunting...

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Ngl Tier 2 might just exist as a waiting room for a verse to eventually become Complex Multiversal at this point

Good lord.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

See, I know that. But I also know that Iizuka said that Rings are non-canon gameplay logic. Therefore, that scene is unusable for any feats because everyone would use that quote over cutscene.

Im only 50/50 joking.

Good thing Death of the Author exists and that canon material takes priority over Word of God.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

We dont know precisely where they scale Cell, given he is just a DBZ era character, Garou with cosmic form would be closer then against Metal

Something something Immo Type 2 + Regen + AD

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Light speed BoS Ichigo, is Yusuke screwed?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

So... Hazbin Hotel High to god tiers are 5-B now lol

A pity that CRT that was going to update King Luc's P&A got piled into thread purgatory tho.

Just make him fight Garou and problem solved

I mean it's more debatable since the outcome literally depends on giving Cell Toei feats/scaling or not and debating if Cell should get it on Death Battle.

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

A pity that CRT that was going to update King Luc's P&A got piled into thread purgatory tho.

I mean it's more debatable since the outcome literally depends on giving Cell Toei feats/scaling or not and debating if Cell should get it on Death Battle.

This is how Garou would look if it was Toei
Bro would need that reaction time LOL

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Frisk

Frisk is the protagonist of Undertale and the eighth human to fall into the Underground. Virtually nothing is known about their life prior to their fall, as even their gender remains ambiguous. Being taken in by Toriel, they eventually decide to leave and explore the Underground to potentially...

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Dante (Devil May Cry)

Dante (ダンテ?) is the protagonist of the majority of the Devil May Cry series. He, along with his twin brother Vergil, are the product of a romance between the Dark Knight Sparda and a human woman named Eva. After losing his mother to demons as a child, Dante grows up to become a demon-hunting...

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Ngl Tier 2 might just exist as a waiting room for a verse to eventually become Complex Multiversal at this point

Well it didnt took long for someone to notice DMC stats

 

[TMaakkonen]

Does anyone have that image of Toriyama saying anime is valid part of DBZ from some magazine?

 

[SpecterSkater]

Light speed BoS Ichigo, is Yusuke screwed?

It's been 5ever since I saw NaruGo, did they even have Ichigo at lightspeed in the analysis? I know past research is notably bad and all, but Ichigo was reacting to this as-stated LS stuff from the beginning and all.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Does anyone have that image of Toriyama saying anime is valid part of DBZ from some magazine?

Mfer we don't even need. We got a statement from the man himself that "Everything is canon.' Cell has ******* Xeno Scaling

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's been 5ever since I saw NaruGo, did they even have Ichigo at lightspeed in the analysis? I know past research is notably bad and all, but Ichigo was reacting to this as-stated LS stuff from the beginning and all.

They had Ichigo as FTL in that episode.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Frisk

Frisk is the protagonist of Undertale and the eighth human to fall into the Underground. Virtually nothing is known about their life prior to their fall, as even their gender remains ambiguous. Being taken in by Toriel, they eventually decide to leave and explore the Underground to potentially...

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Dante (Devil May Cry)

Dante (ダンテ?) is the protagonist of the majority of the Devil May Cry series. He, along with his twin brother Vergil, are the product of a romance between the Dark Knight Sparda and a human woman named Eva. After losing his mother to demons as a child, Dante grows up to become a demon-hunting...

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Ngl Tier 2 might just exist as a waiting room for a verse to eventually become Complex Multiversal at this point

I like Tier 2 (and below) more, is more simple and more fun anything from tier 1

 

[TMaakkonen]

Mfer we don't even need. We got a statement from the man himself that "Everything is canon.' Cell has ******* Xeno Scaling

No one allows DBZ to get Toei stuff but will happily composite games, anime and manga for Zygarde. We absolutely need it :V

 

[Fezzih_007]

fr, Prime literally has the blue bastard tank the universe exploding on his face... ON EPISODE 1!

Not everyone watched Prime tho.
Good Because It sucks but yeah, my only problem with that Is everyone else on the show being a threat to Sonic after he done this, but I a dragon ball fan so

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Mfer we don't even need. We got a statement from the man himself that "Everything is canon.' Cell has ******* Xeno Scaling

That's honestly the kind of stuff Cell would need to beat Metal at his best.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

It's been 5ever since I saw NaruGo, did they even have Ichigo at lightspeed in the analysis? I know past research is notably bad and all, but Ichigo was reacting to this as-stated LS stuff from the beginning and all.

Mach 415,855, so MHS

Big ass jump right from the get go

 

[TMaakkonen]

I hate to say it... but 6D DBZ seems more valid than 6D Sonic. Bleh

Metal still clears Cell teehee

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Frisk

Frisk is the protagonist of Undertale and the eighth human to fall into the Underground. Virtually nothing is known about their life prior to their fall, as even their gender remains ambiguous. Being taken in by Toriel, they eventually decide to leave and explore the Underground to potentially...

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Dante (Devil May Cry)

Dante (ダンテ?) is the protagonist of the majority of the Devil May Cry series. He, along with his twin brother Vergil, are the product of a romance between the Dark Knight Sparda and a human woman named Eva. After losing his mother to demons as a child, Dante grows up to become a demon-hunting...

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Ngl Tier 2 might just exist as a waiting room for a verse to eventually become Complex Multiversal at this point

I mean let's never forget that L1-C bargain sale a couple years back and that was before Hypertimelines got finalized then added properly to the wiki.

They had Ichigo as FTL in that episode.

Yeah, I'll give credit where it's due they had Ichigo as faster but not to the point of Naruto couldn't tag him with his superior AP, so the internal logic was there which only makes Omnidock even more baffling since the internal logic of that episode basically shows Nolan would be a statue compared to SSj Bardock.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

This is how Garou would look if it was Toei
Bro would need that reaction time LOL

Funny part is that Base Mangavegeta (and soon Base Animevegeta) have more chance to beat Cosmic Garou than Cell if Cosmic Garou copy him becuase he have the perfect counter with Forced Spirit Fission

 

[Omegabronic]

See, I know that. But I also know that Iizuka said that Rings are non-canon gameplay logic.

I don't think he ever said that tbh

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I don't think he ever said that tbh

If anyone can find that quote I would appreciate it as it's a good example of Word of God not always being right.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Mach 415,855, so MHS

Big ass jump right from the get go

I typed this out fast so that the site wouldn't give out on my phone, he was 40% faster than light as they put it for reactions

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Funny part is that Base Mangavegeta (and soon Base Animevegeta) have more chance to beat Cosmic Garou than Cell if Cosmic Garou copy him becuase he have the perfect counter with Forced Spirit Fission

 

[AerrowStorm1]

I'm just waiting for a Saint Seiya episode. It's been 12 years.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I don't think he ever said that tbh

I think it was some Interview pre-Frontiers? uhhh oh hey Wiki might have info:

• While Ian Flynn has stated that the Rings are just a game gimmick and not a part of story,[<em><a href="https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Articles_with_unsourced_claims" title="Category:Articles with unsourced claims"><span title="This claim needs at least one reference to a reliable source.">citation needed</span></a></em>] this is not supported by one of their inclusion in the Sonic 3 Japanese manual, (with that very same ring being mentioned in the Knuckles' Chaotix Japanese manual, and recently with the release of the Shadow Generations's iteration of Gerald Robotnik's journal), their actions with several casino's existences, the Chao Gardens with the Black Market, being discussed in Sonic Rivals,<a href="https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_canon#cite_note-61"><span>[</span>56<span>]</span></a> being discussed in Sonic Generations (however, in the Japanese version the Tails are instead talking about the Tornado while in the Sonic X Shadow Generations rewrite they are talking about time travel), their appearance and mention in Sonic Prime, and more recently, the Rings being shown draining from Sonic the Hedgehog in a cutscene during The Final Horizon with the boss fight against The End, although this was something Ian Flynn was not aware of when writing the script.<a href="https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_canon#cite_note-62"><span>[</span>57<span>]</span></a>

Wait, it was Ian quote? Never ******* mind.

 

[SpecterSkater]

I typed this out fast so that the site wouldn't give out on my phone, he was 40% faster than light as they put it for reactions

Kinda thought it was around this, but only after they added up all the form multipliers. No-brainer that Yusuke is going to have some FTL speed as well, but I feel like Ichigo will still outspeed him.

 

[TMaakkonen]

I'm just waiting for a Saint Seiya episode. It's been 12 years.

Its been over 200 episodes and they have never used Star Trek :VVVVVVV

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Predictions so far based of what I remember DB using:
Yusuke: Lightspeed reactions before a somewhat sizable scaling chain
Ichigo: Lightspeed reactions before a much bigger scaling chain and multipliers
I don't expect Yusuke getting any argument for AP that they can't give Ichigo
Looks like a Power Ranger is getting another win!

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Funny part is that Base Mangavegeta (and soon Base Animevegeta) have more chance to beat Cosmic Garou than Cell if Cosmic Garou copy him becuase he have the perfect counter with Forced Spirit Fission

Garou's not absorbing power, he's evolving based on his opponents. Forced Spirit Fission is super easy to counter anyways

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

If Death Battle's gonna do their usual M.O of wanking Sonic and downplaying Dragon Ball into oblivion, a Goku VS Sonic episode is gonna have Goku get stomped.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Garou's not absorbing power, he's evolving based on his opponents. Forced Spirit Fission is super easy to counter anyways

Forced Spirit Fission doesn't just deal with absorbing power, it also undoes fusions as Vegeta said directly to Piccolo when he said "I can even unfuse you, Kami and Nail if I wanted to right now" and Cosmic Garou is basically just him fused with a portion of God, so feels like fair game to me.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Forced Spirit Fission doesn't just deal with absorbing power, it also undoes fusions as Vegeta said directly to Piccolo when he said "I can even unfuse you, Kami and Nail if I wanted to right now" and Cosmic Garou is basically just him fused with a portion of God, so feels like fair game to me.

Oh, ok, that clears it up actually. He'll still have Reactive Evolution though.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Oh yea, future DBS has to acknowledge Vegeta's FSF. Thatll be fun.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I seriously hope Dragon Ball is never featured in a Death Battle again, or if it is, to make them shitstomp their opponent. That's the only way they can fix the damage they did to DB powerscaling.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Not sure what's most likely to be the next Dragon Ball episode with DBS scaling involved.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I seriously hope Dragon Ball is never featured in a Death Battle again, or if it is, to make them shitstomp their opponent. That's the only way they can fix the damage they did to DB powerscaling.

I hope it's a fourth Goku vs Superman to give him a fourth L

 

[MichaelCalistro]

Who here is ready for Low Multiverse level and Massively FTL+ speed scaling for both Ichigo and Yusuke that Death Battle! is about to pull in their upcoming fight?

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I hope it's a fourth Goku vs Superman to give him a fourth L

I hope Goku oneshots the DC Comics cosmology, just in case GvS 3 made them think we were friends.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Somehow I do get feelin Krillin could get an ep. Weird feelin.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Somehow I do get feelin Krillin could get an ep. Weird feelin.

He's genuinely not enough of a character anymore, he's just a weak human version of Goku thank repeatedly fails to step out of anyone's shadow or to stop people from cucking him in hentai.