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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

XSOULOFCINDERX said:
What do we consider "high-level" in this instance? Name one trainer in a Pokémon game that actually competently uses a Ditto when you fight them.
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In LGPE, one of the Coach Trainers (which are above Ace Trainers) on Victory Road uses a Ditto. In Guardian Signs, one of the main villains uses a Ditto that's been trained to transform into the 3 Legendary Dogs on a whim.
 
I wonder if they can get "Adam Park" back as Ichigo?
I don't know how they got a fictional character to do voicework but they should able to do it again
 
TMaakkonen said:
Hell, I actually feel biased for thinking Base Sonic uni scaling is likely more valid than a lot of shit I see.
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That's not being biased for thinking that, that's just having eye balls and basic reading comprehension lol. Like the Sonic Universal Scaling is so blatant that you would basically need to be Season 1 Goku vs Superman which outright said "**** power scaling entirely" to ignore it.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Like goddamn, DB loves to give niche one off items, so Metal gets really stupid. He gets Emeralds, Master Emerald and Phantom Ruby. ****, Crossworld gives him extra 100 rings for fun too, not that he needs extra time. Hell, just give him the insta kill move from Battle, might as well lmao
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Remember when Bowser VS Eggman gave them THREE CHANCES with the Chaos Emeralds?
 
TMaakkonen said:
Trunks beats Silver so bad that they made him fight another Silver who stomps stronger Trunks even harder than og Trunks stomped og Silver. Cool
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This one is so annoying, Archie Silver won using shit he never did in his comic run. Super Silver is so non-standard that It hurts😭
 
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera said:
In LGPE, one of the Coach Trainers (which are above Ace Trainers) on Victory Road uses a Ditto. In Guardian Signs, one of the main villains uses a Ditto that's been trained to transform into the 3 Legendary Dogs on a whim.
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I never played LGPE but I did play Guardian Signs pretty extensively and I don't remember that at all for some reason. Even then, that's Pokémon but again, Neo Metal Sonic consistently showed that he was better than they were whenever he started copying their powers and he only ever loses whenever he's being jumped, either by sneak attacks or the entire cast simultaneously, and even then his losses feel like bullshit because the writers just had him stand for twenty minutes while letting everyone wail on him even though he could have slaughtered them all whenever he wanted to do so.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Not sure why they wouldn't give him the Emeralds. He's canonically used them multiple times.
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Right? He's even used them like that in his Classic Form though he didn't go Super for some reason even though the less advanced Mecha-Sonic could do it with the Master Emerald.
 
Tbf Metal kinda lost with Emeralds to base Cast in Mania short, big oof.

I kinda do not like giving best feat from mac guffin usage to every single user. Seems bit too beneficial. Now every single Super Form is Solaris, thats a bit lame. But thats how the game is played now soooo Cell better get ready to kneel to his master :V
 
TMaakkonen said:
Tbf Metal kinda lost with Emeralds to base Cast in Mania short, big oof.

I kinda do not like giving best feat from mac guffin usage to every single user. Seems bit too beneficial. Now every single Super Form is Solaris, thats a bit lame. But thats how the game is played now soooo Cell better get ready to kneel to his master :V
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"Even the Perfect Being can't stop me!"
 
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera said:
Metal Sonic "copying powers" genuinely doesn't matter at all unless he's done that to basically everyone in the verse. Even if it did, we have everyone on this site stomping Ditto because they have more experience with those powers than it does. Also Solaris's regen comes from the fact that he's everywhere in time.
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Neo Metal copying copies experience, intellect, etc, so that isn't a factor

Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera said:
A lot of Sonic wankers seem to forget that Metal Sonic basically requires a Composite for anything cool, and even then his feats are split between Classic and Modern... and Boom.
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Classic and Modern are... the same character... wdym "composite"?

Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera said:
He doesn't scale even close to modern Super Sonic. Does he even scale to Post-Forces Training?
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He does, Base Neo Metal is already ~> Base Modern Sonic, Super Neo Metal would logically be comparable
 
Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera said:
He doesn't scale even close to modern Super Sonic. Does he even scale to Post-Forces Training?
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Metal sonic is still capable of tagging the team W/O the use of the emeralds, if he used them he'd tag them and even rival.
If they did another Goku v sonic
They would have to nerf,
Gokus hax won't do nun to metal sonic.. since metal scales to the same sonic that withstood attacks from the time eater
 
TMaakkonen said:
Part of me wants to see timeline where Base Metal is universal but Cell gets mix of Toei and DB logic to be 1505x universal.

And then winner depends on if DB allows Super Neo to lick Solaris/TimeEater's feet :V
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That's theoretically possible if they use GT Cell scaling. Everyone in Hell watched the fight between Kid Buu and Goku, Toei Kid Buu is consistently called stronger than Buuhan and Cell was confident he could at least beat that version of Goku during their rematch in GT.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
This one is so annoying, Archie Silver won using shit he never did in his comic run. Super Silver is so non-standard that It hurts😭
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Meanwhile my pfp. Even tho she jobs so much in the Archie run and some how has far weaker pyrokinesis than her game counterpart.
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Right? He's even used them like that in his Classic Form though he didn't go Super for some reason even though the less advanced Mecha-Sonic could do it with the Master Emerald.
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Kinda funny while fan made content (DBZA) made Goku a "bad father" a common misconception (it's between Ging or Shou Tucker for me), yet fan made content (SMBZ) gave Mecha Sonic aura he never had in games, after losing to both base Sonic and Knuckles then getting forgotten by Sega for 30 years until the Scrapnik arc in IDW (aura he wouldn't have gotten without DBZ lol!).
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
That's theoretically possible if they use GT Cell scaling. Everyone in Hell watched the fight between Kid Buu and Goku, Toei Kid Buu is consistently called stronger than Buuhan and Cell was confident he could at least beat that version of Goku during their rematch in GT.
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No, by using Toei anime filler and, gasp, even the og manga???

755

cough
Anyways, if we dont scrutinize Sonic with "universal stats break every fictional setting and thus we dont allow that", Metal wins.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
That's not being biased for thinking that, that's just having eye balls and basic reading comprehension lol. Like the Sonic Universal Scaling is so blatant that you would basically need to be Season 1 Goku vs Superman which outright said "**** power scaling entirely" to ignore it.
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fr, Prime literally has the blue bastard tank the universe exploding on his face... ON EPISODE 1!
 
Anyways, CellMetal was fun, but lets move to GokuSonic. Might as well.

Goku will prooobably win DB (stats equal teehee) if his skill and resistances are able to handle Sonic's hax.

Yes DB will ignore cyloop giving Sonic endless rings shhhhh
 
TMaakkonen said:
Anyways, CellMetal was fun, but lets move to GokuSonic. Might as well.

Goku will prooobably win DB (stats equal teehee) if his skill and resistances are able to handle Sonic's hax.

Yes DB will ignore cyloop giving Sonic endless rings shhhhh
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Goku vs Sonic is a incoming match up? or are we hoping again like Omegamon vs Gogeta?
 
TMaakkonen said:
Part of me wants to see timeline where Base Metal is universal but Cell gets mix of Toei and DB logic to be 1505x universal.

And then winner depends on if DB allows Super Neo to lick Solaris/TimeEater's feet :V
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Neither of those characters have feet kek!
Omegabronic said:
fr, Prime literally has the blue bastard tank the universe exploding on his face... ON EPISODE 1!
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Prime is the 06 of Sonic animation imo (both even have reset endings), I dislike it yet it gave the blue blur a bunch of powerful feats ugh...!
 
TMaakkonen said:
Anyways, CellMetal was fun, but lets move to GokuSonic. Might as well.

Goku will prooobably win DB (stats equal teehee) if his skill and resistances are able to handle Sonic's hax.

Yes DB will ignore cyloop giving Sonic endless rings shhhhh
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Can I just say that it's extremely funny to me that we now have a canonical on-screen cutscene feat of Rings protecting Sonic from the literal strongest attack in the verse that wasn't his max charge Cyber Super Sonic form blasting through The End? This means even if Goku was unironically infinitely stronger than Base Sonic to that same degree then even Goku wouldn't be able to kill him as long as he has some Rings and Sonic would have all the time in the world to come up with something to win. XD
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Can I just say that it's extremely funny to me that we now have a canonical on-screen cutscene feat of Rings protecting Sonic from the literal strongest attack in the verse that wasn't his max charge Cyber Super Sonic form blasting through The End? This means even if Goku was unironically infinitely stronger than Base Sonic to that same degree then even Goku wouldn't be able to kill him as long as he has some Rings and Sonic would have all the time in the world to come up with something to win. XD
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Goku becomes a ring victim confirmed 🗿
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Can I just say that it's extremely funny to me that we now have a canonical on-screen cutscene feat of Rings protecting Sonic from the literal strongest attack in the verse that wasn't his max charge Cyber Super Sonic form blasting through The End? This means even if Goku was unironically infinitely stronger than Base Sonic to that same degree then even Goku wouldn't be able to kill him as long as he has some Rings and Sonic would have all the time in the world to come up with something to win. XD
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See, I know that. But I also know that Iizuka said that Rings are non-canon gameplay logic. Therefore, that scene is unusable for any feats because everyone would use that quote over cutscene.

Im only 50/50 joking.
 
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Ngl Tier 2 might just exist as a waiting room for a verse to eventually become Complex Multiversal at this point
 
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