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*Debating if Ragyo gets Kill la Kill IF scaling then Lusamine gets full composite Pokémon scaling.
*Complaining about how Lusamine's villian arc was ruined in the anime (Colress had a worst game to anime adaption imo) and in USUM.
*Imagining how their kids would interact with each other.
*"I can fix her" and "step on me mommy"
*Discussion of other terrible fictional moms like Medusa from Soul Eater.
I believe the Salior Scouts Vs the Holy Qunitet is still a somewhat popluar MU and ofc the Avengers Vs the Justice League is all but confirmed to be a MU in the future (it's THE capeshit fight).
Also I would really like to see Team Urameshi but I can't really think of thematic MU that also isn't a complete one-sided stomp (e.g Fantastic Four Vs The Incredible is thematically perfection but herald scaling makes any debate pointless which is ironic considering Silver Surfer first appeared in the FF comics).
Avengers vs JL sounds too convoluted of a matchup to even do thanks to the batshit insane stuff magic users in Marvel have alongside whatever the hell you'd give Tony and Bruce.
Dante (ダンテ?) is the protagonist of the majority of the Devil May Cry series. He, along with his twin brother Vergil, are the product of a romance between the Dark Knight Sparda and a human woman named Eva. After losing his mother to demons as a child, Dante grows up to become a demon-hunting...
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Do me a favor and read what tier DMC3 (Post-DT) Dante is
Glass has not responded to the scans because I never posted them in response to his debunk and they were not a part of my original argument. He has never seen them before.
Its this plus the series being heavily intertwined with memories of my past relationship with my abusive ex girlfriend. RWBY and Steven Universe are two verses i absolutely abhor interacting with because of that, and to lesser extents Doctor Who, Harry Potter, and Homestuck.
Ugh, it's complete sh*t when something like that ended up poisoning works you genuinely liked. Though not to the same extent, I have a somewhat similar relationship with the Bravely Default games. I love the everloving crap out of them but precisely because they are tied to something pretty bad I can't replay them nor I could play the new game that came not so long ago.
But, not wanting to be preachy, and... okay this will make me come as the most sanctimonious POS on the whole internet, but uh, sometimes the best thing you can do is to let go of it. I mean, if you are aware that your relationship with RWBY and other series has turned so toxic and is tied to very bitter memories, you have to think about yourself and how much it's affecting you negatively.
And, well... I've been there too. Speaking beacuse this is eerily similar to how my relationship with Final Fantasy VII became for a good while, down to get very combative about it, but not in a powerscaling sense, rather in the work itself and writting and all that stuff. Like you with the early seasons of RWBY, for me the original PS1 FFVII is a borderline holy grail and, among other things, due to the many years of being the popular kid that everyone tried to take the piss out of because it was the "cool thing" to do, and I couldn't play or discuss other entries without people taking potshots at VII. This got worse as the Compilation came out, as the writting of the newer games went in wildly different directions compared to the original game and did thing I personally wasn't a fan of and I felt cheapened a lot of what the original did, which in turn led to people who disliked the Compilation dunking more on VII and fans of the Compilation dunking on the original game and so on. This made me even more defensive of the original and resentful of the other games.
This actually carried to powerscaling as well, one of the reasons I joined this forum was precisely because of the two Death Battles that involved Final Fantasy characters. With Cloud vs Link I was honestly just disappointed with Cloud's loss, especially since I'm also an unashamed Link fanboy, but after people started to use that as an excuse to further shittalk Cloud and Final Fantasy, it quickly became frustration, that led to me being outright anxious when Yang vs Tifa was announced, as if a an actual personal stake was there, and a major funk when Tifa lost, as if my own value had been compromised. It's as stupid as it sounds.
When I joined the forum and had a say in the debate I mostly calmed down, given that I had a voice all in all, and people here, despite how much people might complain and roast, is a lot more civil and friendly than almost every other f**khole where people are wishing death on each other because they don't believe this or that scaling or whatever.
But... uh... my obsession with carrying through for FFVII got out of control and led to obessively work on the verse in a pretty disingenous way. Seeing other verses improve, become stronger or look better led me to think to myself "I can't let my verse get left behind" and my mindset changed from "I have to find out how strong FFVII is" to "How can I make FFVII as overpowered as possible". This led me to shutting myself in almost two years of work and obsessive research that almost destroyed me, completely ruined my relationship with the game and everything related, made me hate the Remakes in advance and still to this day instead of giving them a fair chance and just, all around be miserable, and all in all, just make revisions that were complete and utter bullshieeeet. The only things that are properly in place in the FFVII profiles are things other users did before me, like the scaling. And all of this for what? To prove what exactly? To who? It dawned on me when I finally got the CRTs through and aside a couple of friends that congratulated my effort, the best reaction I got was people criticizing the work and telling me it was wrong and finding myself unable to honestly defend myself because deep down I knew I was horseshitting through my teeth. Anyone else? They just didn't care. Just another revision and moving on.
The thing is... that's pretty much what it was. An internet page for fictional stuff. Why I was placing so much on it was ridiculous, especially at the expense of myself. It eventually just culminated with asking myself "What the f**k am I doing?" And just decided to quit it all, reason why now all the pages of FFVII have the "Outdated" warning. I just realized how much I was screwing myself over chasing something that doesn't exist and that's completely worthless to begin with, and... just a couple of weeks later it has helped me to cool down and reconcile with the games, enjoy them for what they are and just be less toxic regarding them. I'm even considering retaking some stuff, while letting other people handle the heavy lifting.
What I am trying to say is, this isn't worth it. Aside grinding yourself what will you get from this? I know you've said you want to stop misinformation from spreading and all, but the issue is that powerscaling nonsense is not factual as much as we'd like to, something as simple as a dude punching down a wall can be taken in many ways (did he fragment or pulverize the wall? What is the wall made of? What are the sizes of the wall? Is this an outlier? Is this downplay? grumblegrumblegrumble), quite frankly I don't believe there's a truth to reach here, people will still be all over the place. And even if Ruby won and each and every single one of your points was agreed to be spot on by Death Battle, things wouldn't stop, arguments would erupt anyways, now it would be people disagreeing with Death Battle, their previous stances wouldn't change. And, also, you don't have to prove anything to anybody, honest, why would it matter what us randos online think? Easier said than done, I know, I also know that feeling of, in my eyes, a verse I love going off rails, it being smack talked constantly but still wanting to hold on to it because it's special, and it's infuriating seeing people talk poorly of it, but you just shouldn't let people on the internet take it away from you. And sometimes it's better to just take a breather, because the verse or even your own worth isn't tied to how strong it is, otherwise come on, the average Xianxia or japanese Light Novel schlock that comes out every day about Averagesuke Loserai would all be peak fiction.
Sorry for all the nonsense, but uh... just food for thought.
Ugh, it's complete sh*t when something like that ended up poisoning works you genuinely liked. Though not to the same extent, I have a somewhat similar relationship with the Bravely Default games. I love the everloving crap out of them but precisely because they are tied to something pretty bad I can't replay them nor I could play the new game that came not so long ago.
But, not wanting to be preachy, and... okay this will make me come as the most sanctimonious POS on the whole internet, but uh, sometimes the best thing you can do is to let go of it. I mean, if you are aware that your relationship with RWBY and other series has turned so toxic and is tied to very bitter memories, you have to think about yourself and how much it's affecting you negatively.
And, well... I've been there too. Speaking beacuse this is eerily similar to how my relationship with Final Fantasy VII became for a good while, down to get very combative about it, but not in a powerscaling sense, rather in the work itself and writting and all that stuff. Like you with the early seasons of RWBY, for me the original PS1 FFVII is a borderline holy grail and, among other things, due to the many years of being the popular kid that everyone tried to take the piss out of because it was the "cool thing" to do, and I couldn't play or discuss other entries without people taking potshots at VII. This got worse as the Compilation came out, as the writting of the newer games went in wildly different directions compared to the original game and did thing I personally wasn't a fan of and I felt cheapened a lot of what the original did, which in turn led to people who disliked the Compilation dunking more on VII and fans of the Compilation dunking on the original game and so on. This made me even more defensive of the original and resentful of the other games.
This actually carried to powerscaling as well, one of the reasons I joined this forum was precisely because of the two Death Battles that involved Final Fantasy characters. With Cloud vs Link I was honestly just disappointed with Cloud's loss, especially since I'm also an unashamed Link fanboy, but after people started to use that as an excuse to further shittalk Cloud and Final Fantasy, it quickly became frustration, that led to me being outright anxious when Yang vs Tifa was announced, as if a an actual personal stake was there, and a major funk when Tifa lost, as if my own value had been compromised. It's as stupid as it sounds.
When I joined the forum and had a say in the debate I mostly calmed down, given that I had a voice all in all, and people here, despite how much people might complain and roast, is a lot more civil and friendly than almost every other f**khole where people are wishing death on each other because they don't believe this or that scaling or whatever.
But... uh... my obsession with carrying through for FFVII got out of control and led to obessively work on the verse in a pretty disingenous way. Seeing other verses improve, become stronger or look better led me to think to myself "I can't let my verse get left behind" and my mindset changed from "I have to find out how strong FFVII is" to "How can I make FFVII as overpowered as possible". This led me to shutting myself in almost two years of work and obsessive research that almost destroyed me, completely ruined my relationship with the game and everything related, made me hate the Remakes in advance and still to this day instead of giving them a fair chance and just, all around be miserable, and all in all, just make revisions that were complete and utter bullshieeeet. The only things that are properly in place in the FFVII profiles are things other users did before me, like the scaling. And all of this for what? To prove what exactly? To who? It dawned on me when I finally got the CRTs through and aside a couple of friends that congratulated my effort, the best reaction I got was people criticizing the work and telling me it was wrong and finding myself unable to honestly defend myself because deep down I knew I was horseshitting through my teeth. Anyone else? They just didn't care. Just another revision and moving on.
The thing is... that's pretty much what it was. An internet page for fictional stuff. Why I was placing so much on it was ridiculous, especially at the expense of myself. It eventually just culminated with asking myself "What the f**k am I doing?" And just decided to quit it all, reason why now all the pages of FFVII have the "Outdated" warning. I just realized how much I was screwing myself over chasing something that doesn't exist and that's completely worthless to begin with, and... just a couple of weeks later it has helped me to cool down and reconcile with the games, enjoy them for what they are and just be less toxic regarding them. I'm even considering retaking some stuff, while letting other people handle the heavy lifting.
What I am trying to say is, this isn't worth it. Aside grinding yourself what will you get from this? I know you've said you want to stop misinformation from spreading and all, but the issue is that powerscaling nonsense is not factual as much as we'd like to, something as simple as a dude punching down a wall can be taken in many ways (did he fragment or pulverize the wall? What is the wall made of? What are the sizes of the wall? Is this an outlier? Is this downplay? grumblegrumblegrumble), quite frankly I don't believe there's a truth to reach here, people will still be all over the place. And even if Ruby won and each and every single one of your points was agreed to be spot on by Death Battle, things wouldn't stop, arguments would erupt anyways, now it would be people disagreeing with Death Battle, their previous stances wouldn't change. And, also, you don't have to prove anything to anybody, honest, why would it matter what us randos online think? Easier said than done, I know, I also know that feeling of, in my eyes, a verse I love going off rails, it being smack talked constantly but still wanting to hold on to it because it's special, and it's infuriating seeing people talk poorly of it, but you just shouldn't let people on the internet take it away from you. And sometimes it's better to just take a breather, because the verse or even your own worth isn't tied to how strong it is, otherwise come on, the average Xianxia or japanese Light Novel schlock that comes out every day about Averagesuke Loserai would all be peak fiction.
Sorry for all the nonsense, but uh... just food for thought.
Thank you for being so understanding, I will try to keep this in mind going forward. I just want to get through this shitshow of an episode, fix what I have to, and then never have to touch the verse ever again while praying that VIZ doesn't actually go through with making volume 10
Thank you for being so understanding, I will try to keep this in mind going forward. I just want to get through this shitshow of an episode, fix what I have to, and then never have to touch the verse ever again while praying that VIZ doesn't actually go through with making volume 10
It's a pretty shitty feeling I know. That strange anexiety as if a personal stake was actually there, that even if you try to do something else it drags you back. It's like a drug shot of sorts, if things are going like you want it's a relief, but it quickly fades away and you need to come back for more. It's fucking nightmarish.
Being honest, the best you can do is take whatever results come out for what it is and process it on your own. Given the nature the discussion has taken a section of the fanbase will one way or another mock Ruby for it: if she loses she gets dunked on for her defeat, and if she wins she gets accused of favoritism or whatever. Thing is, you or anybody can't change or prevent that, and more importantly you don't have to change that nor you have to put up with that to begin with. Just take the result and stay away from the discussions or stick with friends, I dunno, just don't pollute yourself with this. People will talk crap, but you don't owe them anything anyways, besides we all talk out of our asses on the internet, it's kind of mandatory.
Byakuya vs Alice Synthesis 30 (Bleach vs SAO Alicization): The calls not not familiar with Alice Synthesis, or the SAO arc she's from. They joke about the concept of Alicization, assuming it refers to turning people into Alices. DJ says Gun Gale sucked. Sam says he's not sure he knows anyone who kept watching SAO after the second arc. The calls talks about the Isekai boom started by SAO and Sam and DJ give a shoutout to .hack.
To be fair, that Big Daddy specifically is weirdly cracked because it can do things that other Bouncers can't, like using its drill as a ******* grappling hook and also one-shotting the dude who literally had a prolonged boss fight with it before.
We see another Big Daddy use the drill as a grappling hook at the start of the game so it's evidently not unique. Also Booker gets killed by it because he's distracted from the whole "I'm Comstock and I got that baby Elizabeth killed" reveal. He doesn't even react to the very loud and heavy footsteps or Big Daddy groan right behind him. The Big Daddy didn't just one shot him normally.
We see another Big Daddy use the drill as a grappling hook at the start of the game so it's evidently not unique. Also Booker gets killed by it because he's distracted from the whole "I'm Comstock and I got that baby Elizabeth killed" reveal. He doesn't even react to the very loud and heavy footsteps or Big Daddy groan right behind him. The Big Daddy didn't just one shot him normally.
Glass has not responded to the scans because I never posted them in response to his debunk and they were not a part of my original argument. He has never seen them before.
He doesn't need to given he thoroughly debunked the whole thing in the past. You reposting scans as if they mean something different than they did years ago doesn't change things.
He doesn't need to given he thoroughly debunked the whole thing in the past. You reposting scans as if they mean something different than they did years ago doesn't change things.
I know? That's not who they were talking about. The Booker that gets killed by a Big Daddy is the same one that fights a Big Daddy like 5 minutes beforehand.
I know? That's not who they were talking about. The Booker that gets killed by a Big Daddy is the same one that fights a Big Daddy like 5 minutes beforehand.
It'd be fine if Death Battle discord (an the fandom sub reddit) just reinforces a rule to behave like they did with Spider-Man vs Deku, an it's there best for both. But we'd have to see Ruby and Luz's episode to see how a potential Eda vs Qrow would go.
Soooo, I asked this some time ago, but was curious anyways? What your dream matchups that you see unlikely to happen? Mine is Yusuke Urameshi vs Yoh Asakura. Unlikely to happen because if one of those two, more likely Yusuke, goes into Death Battle they would be fighting Ichigo.
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