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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Also, that 900 page thing was a shot at the endless arguments that will be going on until the end of time. Agree to disagree and move on people, and, right or wrong, don't attack people, that's what Discord and DMs are for, out of sight, out of mind, and everyone can get their rants out and go on with their day.

Yes, this includes the stuff directly above me. There comes a point where a debate is just stamina rather than actually proving yourself right or changing opinions. A good 80% of debates are answered within the first 10-30 posts.
 
I don't recall seeing any major post from you that debunked my points, let alone directly responded to my post.
 
I don't recall seeing any major post from you that debunked my points, let alone directly responded to my post.
Huh, I guess i never did actually post the debunk, weird. Either way though I do have an extensive debunk of your debunk and i will be posting it in the upcoming CRT
 
But anyways
OH YEAH THAT WAS IT😂

That shit was so funny because you could just sense that something was of even if you had no idea what RWBY was.


Technically the entire sequence from 1:01:00 to 1:03:15, where theyre actively training Oscar in combat to hone his skill and instincts to be able to generate and maintain an Aura barrier subconsciously while in a fight

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The guidebook confirms that you need to have a high degree of skill to utilize Aura as a barrier, and an even higher degree of skill to manifest a Semblance

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The manga also confirms that Aura requires a degree of skill beyond that of an average person to utilize

So yeah, this is literally just how it works. I dont see how its so hard to understand that when Chakra/Ki/'insert fancy name' Energy is one of the most common power systems in fiction and no one bats an eye to characters training and needing skill to use any of them.
 
Elizabeth couldn't even stop a Big Daddy from slamming her through a wall. Girl is the definition of Potential Woman.
To be fair, that Big Daddy specifically is weirdly cracked because it can do things that other Bouncers can't, like using its drill as a ******* grappling hook and also one-shotting the dude who literally had a prolonged boss fight with it before.
 
Love how people were coming after me for the 'Aura requires skill' thing but as soon as i post the scans to back it up everyone ignored it
 
To be fair, that Big Daddy specifically is weirdly cracked because it can do things that other Bouncers can't, like using its drill as a ******* grappling hook and also one-shotting the dude who literally had a prolonged boss fight with it before.
Tbf, Burial at Sea makes no sense lorewise especially with Elizabeth having several types of immortality, nigh-omniscience, and possibly low-godly regen.
 
1. I didnt get demoted for trying to inflate RWBY tiers, i got demoted because Bambu does not like me
We do not demote users because one other staff member dislikes them. In fact, many cases like that have come forward, and accordingly resulted in no action. Bambu was not a part of the staff that handled staff actions at the time.

You didn't get demoted over the RWBY/Bambu stuff, you got banned for it. You were already demoted at the time. Here's the staff page from three weeks before your ban.

(And it wasn't because Bambu didn't like you; it was because Bambu, and many other staff members, viewed it as you offering a bribe to overlook flaws in a calculation)
 
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Here's the main brunt of the convo, the fifth image is the one with that event; I provide the rest for context.

After this, Weekly posts some different images for scaling, Bambu asks a few questions about it, Weekly answers, then Bambu accepts the calc.

The one that's on profiles is slightly different, with a value ~10% lower than the highest end of Weekly's.

EDIT: The one that's on profiles ultimately goes back to Weekly's calc. The linked one is just a summary of how the values are derived, ultimately using a 36x multi instead of a 40x multi.
 
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Love how people were coming after me for the 'Aura requires skill' thing but as soon as i post the scans to back it up everyone ignored it
Yeah man, it's totally that you owned them in the marketplace of ideas and not that you're a known and proven liar that will never concede a point. Not everyone has the patience to argue the same point over and over again for pages against someone who's been proven to misconstrue, twist, or ignore context and writer's intent for not only Soul Eater and RWBY, but GoW: Ragnarök as well. So much so there's google docs documenting all the things you've said about this matchup for years.
 
Yeah man, it's totally that you owned them in the marketplace of ideas and not that you're a known and proven liar that will never concede a point. Not everyone has the patience to argue the same point over and over again for pages against someone who's been proven to misconstrue, twist, or ignore context and writer's intent for not only Soul Eater and RWBY, but GoW: Ragnarök as well. So much so there's google docs documenting all the things you've said about this matchup for years.
I mean bro did at least show scans this time for the Aura users need skill to use Aura

Also Ren did say in Vol 5 how you need to train to use your Aura subconsciously, something everyone (Minus Jaune and Oscar) did growing up training
 
Yeah man, it's totally that you owned them in the marketplace of ideas and not that you're a known and proven liar that will never concede a point.

Please read up on this before making accusations like that.
Not everyone has the patience to argue the same point over and over again for pages against someone who's been proven to misconstrue, twist, or ignore context and writer's intent for not only Soul Eater and RWBY, but GoW: Ragnarök as well.
I havent been proven to do that at all. Everything I argue is backed by overwhelming evidence with full context.
So much so there's google docs documenting all the things you've said about this matchup for years.
Ah yes, the troll document, very reliable. Its honestly sad that people are so obsessed with me that they are willing to document every word I say to use it against me as a personal vendetta, yet im somehow the one in the wrong.
 

Please read up on this before making accusations like that.

I havent been proven to do that at all. Everything I argue is backed by overwhelming evidence with full context.
No, you have. I and others have posted the exact thread in the God of War Ragnarök discussion where you say Kratos doesn't scale to Thor, and you've ignored those posts every single time despite saying that you never argued that.

You said you never argued that
Posts evidence of you arguing exactly that

That's straight up a lie. Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it go away.

And calling anything you don't agree with a 'troll document' is a real laugh when you flat out accuse people of 'simply not reading Soul Eater' when they have an opinion that's different than yours.
 
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No, you have. I and others have posted the exact thread in the God of War Ragnarök discussion where you say Kratos doesn't scale to Thor, and you've ignored those posts every single time despite saying that you never argued that.
And you people all conveniently leave out that all i was doing was asking about the scene where thor killed kratos, then conceded to that argument, admitted that i was wrong, and do not believe it anymore.

But that doesnt fit your narrative that im just a liar now does it?
That's straight up a lie. Ignoring the evidence doesn't make it go away.
Ignoring the context doesnt make you right.
 
For someone claiming they hate RWBY which became a thing only when Ruby vs Maka became a point of talk, you sure have a history with the series, including bribing calcs for it and people are suppose to believe you saying you hate it?

Nobody trusts you for several reasons across the time spent on vs wiki knowing you, on top of not even acknowledging your wrongs, you are called a liar for a reason, you are treated as a joke by people for a reason, there is stuff like you claiming debating is more important then your job memed upon too

What did you think will happen when returning? Getting welcomed with open arms for sharing knowledge you got debunked on over and over again? The moment you say someone didnt read something therefore they wrong is when you lose credibility

I said it before, I know in regards to my stuff familiar with when someone makes up bullshit or lies and I have the right to call them out on it, you arent in the same ballpark here when many of these are proven false
 
And you people all conveniently leave out that all i was doing was asking about the scene where thor killed kratos, then conceded to that argument, admitted that i was wrong, and do not believe it anymore.

But that doesnt fit your narrative that im just a liar now does it?
Brother man that was not what you did. At all. I read that thread, you didn't just ask questions, you flat out said he didn't scale. Then when the discussion was brought up here about how you said he didn't scale, you said you never said that. If you truly 'conceded' the argument you could have brought that up when people were discussing it again. But you didn't. Because you did argue that Kratos didn't scale to Thor.

Ignoring the context doesnt make you right.
That's rich coming from you.
 
For someone claiming they hate RWBY which became a thing only when Ruby vs Maka became a point of talk, you sure have a history with the series, including bribing calcs for it and people are suppose to believe you saying you hate it?
Yeah, I used to like it, now i do not. Theres this weird phenomenon called changing your tastes and opinions, i know it sounds strange but it does exist.
Nobody trusts you for several reasons across the time spent on vs wiki knowing you, on top of not even acknowledging your wrongs, you are called a liar for a reason, you are treated as a joke by people for a reason,
There is zero reason for me to be called a liar. People just choose to treat me like that.
there is stuff like you claiming debating is more important then your job memed upon too
Yeah, a job that abused the hell out of me for three years for awful pay and that i was in the process of leaving, why would i give a single shit about it?
What did you think will happen when returning? Getting welcomed with open arms for sharing knowledge you got debunked on over and over again?
Genuinely yes, primarily because there is little to no information that has actually been debunked.
The moment you say someone didnt read something therefore they wrong is when you lose credibility
Funny how thats what you focus on and not the walls of scan-backed debunks i provide with me saying that.
I said it before, I know in regards to my stuff familiar with when someone makes up bullshit or lies and I have the right to call them out on it, you arent in the same ballpark here when many of these are proven false
Such as?
 
Yeah, I used to like it, now i do not. Theres this weird phenomenon called changing your tastes and opinions, i know it sounds strange but it does exist.
If that was the case you wouldnt go defend Ruby so much around especially since you are associated with it in as its biggest supporter, you somehow changed your opinion in 2 years yet still defend it around so hard
There is zero reason for me to be called a liar. People just choose to treat me like that.
The instance with gow? You also claimed there is a server debunking dmc being universal and just having 4-A stats with kill la kill you couldnt even prove the game was canon till someone put effort into that to show it and then you came back to gloat with a "i told you" when you didnt do anything yourself
Yeah, a job that abused the hell out of me for three years for awful pay and that i was in the process of leaving, why would i give a single shit about it?
Yeah sure, its funny how you have a reason for anything negative about you that you are memed upon, why that wasnt a thing years ago said by you if that was the case?
Genuinely yes, primarily because there is little to no information that has actually been debunked.
Keep telling yourself that, various people did you just dont wanna admit this and claim nothing was debunked
Funny how thats what you focus on and not the walls of scan-backed debunks i provide with me saying that.
And then a guy did the same on both sides and you blocked him, but apparently that guy didnt read soul eater according to you lol
 
If that was the case you wouldnt go defend Ruby so much around especially since you are associated with it in as its biggest supporter, you somehow changed your opinion in 2 years yet still defend it around so hard
Im not defending anything, im countering misinformation you people are spreading about it. I would do the same for any verse if i had the knowledge on it
The instance with gow? You also claimed there is a server debunking dmc being universal and just having 4-A stats
There was yes, theyre the ones who debunked the PoC stuff

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Do me a favor and read what tier DMC3 (Post-DT) Dante is
with kill la kill you couldnt even prove the game was canon till someone put effort into that to show it and then you came back to gloat with a "i told you" when you didnt do anything yourself
They literally used my scans and arguments in their blog
Yeah sure, its funny how you have a reason for anything negative about you that you are memed upon, why that wasnt a thing years ago said by you if that was the case?
I have literally been saying that since the day it happened
Keep telling yourself that, various people did you just dont wanna admit this and claim nothing was debunked
Thus far no one has debunked it.
And then a guy did the same on both sides and you blocked him, but apparently that guy didnt read soul eater according to you lol
He did not no, all he did was fling insults at me. That is the only reason i have ever blocked anyone on Reddit.
 
Like i dont think you understand the irony of using the DMC downgrades and KLK IF canonicity, two things i argued very hard about and was dismissed for just by virtue of being me making the arguments, only to have them later be accepted and widely agreed on stances just because someone else used the same exact arguments i had been making, as an argument for why people shouldnt listen to me.

I was right. You didnt listen.
 
Im not defending anything, im countering misinformation you people are spreading about it. I would do the same for any verse if i had the knowledge on it
Excuses, thats all i hear, even if you were clearing up misinformation nobody believes in your take on the two verses on how it goes, at least if there were more people siding you which isnt the case
There was yes, theyre the ones who debunked the PoC stuff
No they didnt also PoC had nothing to do with this, at that time PoC wasnt a thing or even in question forbthe verse

Do me a favor and read what tier DMC3 (Post-DT) Dante is
First of all, DMC3 Dante never was argued back then upon your claims as being universal or what not, the topic was on Mundus and Argosax, mainly former, you bring up unrelated shit on this and slap it over something else to save face, liar

You argued on Mundus creating a universe being 4-A, not something else you say here
They literally used my scans and arguments in their blog
Sure they did, shadow vs ryuko had no scans or such from you used at all, liar once again
I have literally been saying that since the day it happened
Proof of that? If it was the case, why only now thats heard about
Thus far no one has debunked it.
The fact you keep claiming this over and over is a reason nobody believes you, "oh nobody debunked me, oh i read everything on them, oh i know better", gimme a break from your inflated ego
He did not no, all he did was fling insults at me. That is the only reason i have ever blocked anyone on Reddit.
How about you stop lying, everyone here and discords saw the reddit post and what you did, you got debunked like it or not
Like i dont think you understand the irony of using the DMC downgrades and KLK IF canonicity, two things i argued very hard about and was dismissed for just by virtue of being me making the arguments, only to have them later be accepted and widely agreed on stances just because someone else used the same exact arguments i had been making, as an argument for why people shouldnt listen to me.

I was right. You didnt listen.
The ammount of inflated ego here is unbelievable....you keep lying and lying and yet insist despite being wrong, on gow you have people show you lied and keep doing so, people dont trust you for this very reasons, not simply cuz you say them
 
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