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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread
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Pretty much everything regarding the universal stuff has been debunked as far as I've seen, even going so far as to have scans of kamiya correcting his own WoG about them being universal
With this the next best feat they have to fall back on is 4-A for mundus' pocket realm feat
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Kamiya word holds weight only for DMC1 and even then many are skeptical on his word
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I'm aware, what I'm saying is that he outright corrected himself saying they were universal
The rest of the universal stuff is being discussed and the verdicts as far as I can tell are a mix of them being hyperbole and not applying to physical AP due to the recent creation feats and stabilization feats revisions
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If you ask him vs questions he aint giving a shit if thats what you mean with that, it is a different story, as far as i saw, peeps asked him what he does in the scene, answering straight forward on it, which coincides with a jap guide saying more or less the same thing
Hyperbole i dont see since a guide and manga say it blatantly in the face its talked about a universe scale, from the profiles i also saw that demon energy affects physicals too, also pretty sure both mundus and argosax after being greatly injured has the universes shenanigans be undone
Hyperbole i dont see since a guide and manga say it blatantly in the face its talked about a universe scale, from the profiles i also saw that demon energy affects physicals too, also pretty sure both mundus and argosax after being greatly injured has the universes shenanigans be undone
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It wasnt vs questions, it was an interview he did in which he corrected that statement
Yeah, problem is that wouldnt scale to physicals under our new stabilization guidelines. That's the same reasoning bleach had and they got their tier 2 stuff nuked
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It still wouldnt matter as death of the author exists, also as outlined people are skeptical for his word
I caught a glimpse of it when that was fresh and also was told by darkdragon i think, it is applying if you cant prove to scale to physicals, going by what DMC has in the profiles makes it an exception, bleach didnt have that from what i understood
I caught a glimpse of it when that was fresh and also was told by darkdragon i think, it is applying if you cant prove to scale to physicals, going by what DMC has in the profiles makes it an exception, bleach didnt have that from what i understood
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That's self-contradictory though
What physical tier 2 feats do they have exactly? Last I checked none of the characters physically punched a timeline to destruction which is what is basically required for it to be considered a tier 2 general ap feat. Doom is also having this issue, the main villain sustains a universe by existing and if he dies it collapses but he has no actual directly destructive feats on that level so it doesnt count towards general ap
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If the author says something his series says otherwise it questions his word, if you have a galaxy buster, but author thinks a city level character at best legit beats him, that rauses questions on an author word
From what i understood the demonic energy is whats used to do all these feats and the characters physicals also rely on it, others might explain it better but thats what i understood
Also stuff like "show destroying a universe/timeline" is basically an old ass argument equivalent of "you cant be planet level at all if you dont destroy one" which really applies to any verse in question
From what i understood the demonic energy is whats used to do all these feats and the characters physicals also rely on it, others might explain it better but thats what i understood
Also stuff like "show destroying a universe/timeline" is basically an old ass argument equivalent of "you cant be planet level at all if you dont destroy one" which really applies to any verse in question
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Okay but in this scenario, using your analogy, it's like saying that the author corrected himself saying the city buster does not beat the galaxy buster but since he said it before that now calls into question if the city buster actually does lose to the galaxy buster
Okay but the problem is that due to our new standards that is no longer enough to justify general ap scaling to creation feats
I mean i hate to break it to you but that's the standard now and a lot of verses are being downgraded as a result
Okay but the problem is that due to our new standards that is no longer enough to justify general ap scaling to creation feats
I mean i hate to break it to you but that's the standard now and a lot of verses are being downgraded as a result
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Even if his word affects it, anything after his game says otherwise regardless
Aint that affecting bayo too if its the case then? Also it sounds bs this standard it basically makes near impossible to get the tier in question for any verse
Aint that affecting bayo too if its the case then? Also it sounds bs this standard it basically makes near impossible to get the tier in question for any verse
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Meh, fair
No because bayo has actual tier 3 and 2 feats
with with physical attacks. And yeah it kinda sucks, it's a much stricter standard now
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We will cross that bridge when we come accross it.
Its not like we have been living under a rock unawares regarding recent standard revisions or some that have yet to come.... really I am not worrried at all, bring all your changes you want we will persevere regardless.
I have examnined implications of said stabilization revisions and creation revisions for DMC and I am not all worried.
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What direct feats of destruction do they have on that level then? I've literally been trying to figure that out for the past hour
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Dude chill, you say this like I was arguing that it would be the main reason for the downgrade, I was just bringing up a few of the group's talking points
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There are two actually, both involving Mundus..... but since you only searched for an hour, maybe more effort will make them more blatantly visible .....
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But Dante stomped Bayo since 2019, everything that has been going on is just adding salt to the wound lmao.
Death battle was correct after all :v
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I'm at work and dont have the time to read through the entire thing, could you just tell me what they are?
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Also, bois, don't mind weekly. This is the same as "I have my Bayonetta crt ready" that lasted 3 years as empty words before someone else had to do it
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It's all good man, happens to everyone, no big deal
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Really dude? I'm just asking a question, theres no need for that
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Yeah calm down people...
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It was done by a friend who asked for my help off-site. Only took about 2 days.
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And I greatly appreciated it, helped get past the whole 1 crt per user rule that was in place at the time lol
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No one cared about that anyways.
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I will give you one.... Mundus tanks the collapse of his universe... whatever size you may want to believe in... it atleast proves that it applies to physicals.
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so from the wording here, the new standards get rid of stabilization feats as a whole(which sounds questionable). but that says nothing about merging / fusing which are the main DMC feats
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Merging/ fusing feats are counted in that as well unfortunately
Stabilization Feats
This is a type of feat where a character's existence, energy, presence, or any given factor from them sustains a structure on any given scale. And through their sustenance, their statistics are subsequently tiered to being at the level of power that is relative to the given scale of the...
vsbattles.fandom.com
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Are you taking surface area into account when applying this feat? Because you would have to do that with a feat like this. Also does the universe collapse immediately or does it take a few seconds because that would change the results considerably
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legit none of these pages/threads even mention merging/fusingMerging/ fusing feats are counted in that as well unfortunately
Stabilization Feats
This is a type of feat where a character's existence, energy, presence, or any given factor from them sustains a structure on any given scale. And through their sustenance, their statistics are subsequently tiered to being at the level of power that is relative to the given scale of the...
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The first discussion thread I linked does, again it has to do with the bleach fiasco that lead to this regulation in the first place
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I don't think surface area matters when a space-time collapses upon you.
It was instant.
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Youd be surprised, weve been getting a lot stricter with feats like this. Hell downgrading feats of tanking the big bang are coming up soon under the same surface area principle
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Hmm interesting, we will just have to cross that bridge when we come accross it I guess.
I'll chill untill then.
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Ok so the Pluto profile is already made by Tony.
But question is, does his apperance in PoC are canon? I mean literally canon to DMC games? Might be better if you asked this to Matt on twitter for this.
But question is, does his apperance in PoC are canon? I mean literally canon to DMC games? Might be better if you asked this to Matt on twitter for this.
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At this moment in the present canonicity of PoC is Irrelevant to Pluto profile and scaling of God Tiers.... all our evidence comes from Manga and DMC1.
As for future, well PoC being canon can be a interesting prospect for DMC series scaling..... so inquiring Matt Walker of this is fine in my opinion if anyone is interested. Otherwise I am personally neutral on it.
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Would you happen to know where I can read the dmc manga? I'm curious what it has
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You can search for it as any other manga you would search for on net.
I think Mangakalot or any other similar site host it.
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