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As far as I'm concerned, Maka and Ruby downscaling from their respective antagonists is fine. Literally a case of "They get thrashed, but can deal damage."
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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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I don't want to butt into this debate, but does he actually believe that? Because as someone who's beaten Ragnarok more than twice over: I don't know how one can get through Kratos' first fight against Thor without hearing all of Thor's statements and how Kratos was acting that explicitly confirms Kratos was holding back. It was only when Thor mentioned that Odin had plans for Atreus did Kratos stop holding back in the end and knocked out his tooth.
And as you mentioned already, Kratos defeated Thor in their last fight when he wasn't holding back as much.
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No, I do not now nor have I ever believe that
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Weekly has really been making up for lost time in being obnoxious
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@The_Unknown_Warrior1 Yeah when Ragnarok came out, he kept bringing up the fact that because Thor killed Kratos in the beginning despite this being a Kratos who lost most of his magic and gear from Fimbulwinter that he can't scale to Thor's feats of affecting Yggdrasil (ignoring how Ragnarok gave like 5-7 extra other feats from Heimdall to Kratos himself affecting all the realm itself with their strength). You can check the GoW discussion thread back when Ragnarok came out if you want to see the details.
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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
I am sure it is the other way round People with G1 blog and legacy VBW blogs have star and MFTL+ Vader while Death Battle crew members have planet and SOL Vader. Even the updated profile for Vader is going to have him at Low 4-C and MFTL
God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
Also to note is that in his story he says Aesir have souls and go to Valhalla but in Ragnarok Odin says they don't klnow what happens after gods die. Oversight maybe? Mimir states Aesir go straight to Vahalla and then come back in 2018 so it's likely an oversight but if it isn't answered then...
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No, it isnt, at all. They literally say in the show and in the books that a person only has a set amount of and level of Aura and cannot get more without stuff like the Atlas aura-siphoning device. If Aura was the way they measured power, no one would be able to get any stronger, yet they do, because Aura is not the way they measure power in the show. Their physical stats are their own, independent of their Aura.
Four City Block level characters fighting a Small City level character. Not sure why you think this is an argument
Downgrade for what?
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You literally do not 'just post what happened' in the manga. If that was the case then you wouldn't have argued that Maka didn't block a single attack from Crona for pages before eventually admitting it, then going back and saying she didn't again. All in a series that has shown time and time again that if you block an attack from an enemy that's way stronger than you you still take damage.
If you 'just posted what happened' you wouldn't base your entire argument on why Maka isn't even a fraction of a percentage to her two teammates wouldn't be blown out of the water by the fact that to believe that you'd have to imagine Death The Kid was an idiot for letting someone as weak as Maka stay on the moon while he teleported every other Meister and Weapon out.
If you were 'just posting' you wouldn't argue that Chain Resonance is the only reason that Maka is able to fight on equal terms despite being so drastically weaker despite her doing more damage to Asura than Death the Kid did in the entire final fight, even with Kid being a full shinigami with a soul big enough to nearly cover the entire moon.
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When did i claim she blocked attacks from Crona? She never did.
I do post just what happened, its the crux of my entire argument.
That is quite literally how Chain Resonance works.
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ding ding ding
S1 has only like 113 chapters and Rwby has barely anything to offer in scaling
no shit it wasn't gonna be a long ass blog
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You are aware that RWBY has a TON to offer in scaling right?
This is the full canon timeline for RWBY, minus Volume 9 Beyond and Volume 10 which hasnt come out yet
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Thor Vs Godzilla is clearly non canon, that's the only one they mentioned.
Godzilla destroys the Marvel universe on the other hand, is the only one that's canon, and Gojo doesn't Hulk until October, so including it is worthless.
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My brother in christ I don't know what else you could possibly think would cause a 'clang' sound effect from in a battle with metal weapons. We didn't 'claim' she blocked anything. She did. And this is now the second time you've denied it.
How about this nice obvious 'whak' sound effect with visual effects near her hands along with action lines to show off her blocking the thorn strike? I'm only 'just posting what happened'
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Wait how are the Justice League x RWBY crossover movies canon? Just curiousYou are aware that RWBY has a TON to offer in scaling right?
This is the full canon timeline for RWBY, minus Volume 9 Beyond and Volume 10 which hasnt come out yet
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Crona throwing her away is not her blocking an attack.
Redirecting is also not blocking an attackMy brother in christ I don't know what else you could possibly think would cause a 'clang' sound effect from in a battle with metal weapons. We didn't 'claim' she blocked anything. She did. And this is now the second time you've denied it.
How about this nice obvious 'whak' sound effect with visual effects near her hands along with action lines to show off her blocking the thorn strike? I'm only 'just posting what happened'
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The writers said so in an interview
Justice League x RWBY Director Provides the Ultimate Animated Superhero Mash-Up
In an interview with CBR, Justice League x RWBY director Kerry Shawcross details how the big animated crossover came together.
www.cbr.com
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This one is notable, since Crona used the same attack to trow the Moon tooth at them.
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Ye, the feat that would have outright killed her if BlackStar wasnt there, and which horrified Maka for how strong BlackStar would have had to be to perform said feat
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dude none it changes the game nor offer anything beyond what we know its an ass beating to anyone but youYou are aware that RWBY has a TON to offer in scaling right?
This is the full canon timeline for RWBY, minus Volume 9 Beyond and Volume 10 which hasnt come out yet
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I mean yeah, Black★Star is stronger than her. I don't think anyone is denying that.
We saying she downscale to him tho for other reasons. Like blocking the attacks from Crona.
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Throwing her away with swords? That make a 'clang' sound? Dude, c'mon.
...yeah? You have to make physical contact with it to redirect, and if Maka's durability was so much weaker and useless compared to Black Star's even redirecting the same kind of attack that gets into the teratons would rip Maka's arm clean off.
Literally everyone in the final arc is marveling at how much of a freak BlackStar is. Moonlight with the impossibility of catching lasers, Asura himself compliments BlackStar's strength in their fight. No-one is arguing that BlackStar isn't one of the highest showings of strength in the series. It's not like he even deflected those hits for her. It's clearly shown in the scan Maka's doing that herself.
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She didnt though, thats the whole thing
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It gives her Small City level scaling to outscale a Town level character (Maka)
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Yes
You dont, thats why its 'redirecting', not 'blocking'.
So we're now ignoring all of the scenes in the fight where he did just straight up deflect the hits for her?
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She did tho
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It doesn't and Maka downscales from Asura so mute point
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@Emirp sumitpo Peak fanboy obsession Jesus Christ. Imagine someone claims death battle has some racial motivations just because they did Optimus Prime vs Superman and Superman won.
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She doesnt, not without outside help
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Who knows be nice to get info on another series stats
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Sure bro whatever helps you cope at night
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Christ on a cracker dude, that is not how anything works.
Do you even know physics? If I try to reach out and push against a train going 300 miles an hour my damn arm is going off. Let alone trying that with a hundred teratons of force.
My guy I was arguing about the single panel in the page I showed you. Address the point being made or address why you were just shown to lie about your scaling for Kratos and Thor. Pick a fight.
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Also just realized the G1 blog was probably that short because they referenced Maddie's blog up there at the beginning, so I imagine they were using that for the basis of their own analysis and basically agreed with what they put as well.
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Trust the plan bros
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Funnily enough, upon rereading it for a breakdown of inaccuracies, the G1 blog even acknowledges that they are canon lol
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Why does Ippo look like a moe anime girl here?
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KOTM is an insufferable asshole, which pains me because he actually scales very well most of the time
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