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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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I do wonder if WileTom is ready soon. Also unsure if SimonKyle is from same team as GRSpawn, so maybe sprite fight is possible soon. Torrian & Ismahawk are also possibilities if they started last year. I guess these 4 are most likely atm?
Shouldnt WileTom be done a bit later? Or its perhaps too much wait on it
 
Shouldnt WileTom be done a bit later? Or its perhaps too much wait on it
I feel like it depends on how much time has Luis had with WileTom. At this point it seems pretty good amount, hence it could be ready soon.

Assuming Luis didnt work on too many HD parts of this fight.

Lets see:



It seems Luis started on WileTom at least in December. A June release would have 6 months of work. Is that enough?
 
I feel like it depends on how much time has Luis had with WileTom. At this point it seems pretty good amount, hence it could be ready soon.

Assuming Luis didnt work on too many HD parts of this fight.

Lets see:



It seems Luis started on WileTom at least in December. A June release would have 6 months of work. Is that enough?

Do we know long Scourage took to make?
 
Do we know long Scourage took to make?
No afaik.

Eps can vary a lot in dev time. GalactusUnicron was few years, but sat BillDiscord got 9 months. I believe GRSpawn was first true KS funded ep, so I guess that one is 6-7 months. Devilartemis seems to mae animations in 3-4 months too. If they did analysis earlier, maybe 6 months could be enough?
 
Hoping now, Kyle seals Simon into the Source Wall, this is when the utter climax of the fight happens where Simon breaks through it shattering his TTGL and the Life Equation and now it's just a primal fist fight between life and spiral energy

"If the Death Battle researchers randomly use VSBW fairly new 1A standards and give it to a character who didn't meet those standards, Simon can win!"
I think that is the most unhinged thing I've seen the G1 Blog say
It's a shame they used that when the more simple Simon transcends space, time, and dimensions as TTGL alone and is infinitely more powerful as STTGL works better.
 
Hoping now, Kyle seals Simon into the Source Wall, this is when the utter climax of the fight happens where Simon breaks through it shattering his TTGL and the Life Equation and now it's just a primal fist fight between life and spiral energy


It's a shame they used that when the more simple Simon transcends space, time, and dimensions as TTGL alone and is infinitely more powerful as STTGL works better.
Do you buy the arguments in the blog?
 
A Simon sweep, huh? Interesting....

This will age like milk if Kyle ends up taking the W
Wasn't expecting to get credited at the beginning of the blog.

I'm surprised by the cosmology standards they gave DC this time. They discussed Vsbw's new tiering system and R>F transcendences a lot, and said DC only reaches 1-A when you get to the Source, and basically everything else in DC Cosmology is bound by space-time. They referenced a lot of arguments from my DC Cosmology debunk blog to address infinite-dimensional DC and how they disagree with it, and having followed their blogs for a while, this is a drastic downgrade they've given DC overall.
 
Do my eyes deceive me? A Simon sweep?
A Simon sweep, huh? Interesting....

This will age like milk if Kyle ends up taking the W
TRVST the plan, Simon shall slay the DC Herald once and for all!
 
Do you guys buy multiversal labyrinth feat helping Simon resit the LE? The blog stated that, but im not to sure ngl
I never understood why that was seen as a big feat. Sure, Simon broke out of it but he needed Kamina's spirit to intervene and help him in the first place. It's also why I don't buy the argument that it gives him the edge in experience. Sure, technically Simon absorbing all his alternate selves gives him an overall experience boost but when it comes to specifically fighting cosmic level threats, Kyle beats him on that front. It's like how Unicron was around for longer than Galactus was but they still gave Galactus the edge in experience because he has fought more people on his level than Unicron has.
 
I'm fairly skeptical of the arguments, namely the stance on DC cosmology because this feels like the most restrictive they've ever scaled it, which also has me curious of their stance on Marvel's and how they compare to each other. I still think Kyle takes it but I have a hunch the episode will go to Simon. But if it doesn't, the DC opps can rejoice when we get Doomsday vs 682
 
Reading this made me realize how BS both characters are power-wise lol. Great job for the effort it must have taken to compile all this.
I'd say Kyle's 1-A with LE is still considerably more reliable than Simon's until we get proper TL for Otoko from a reliable source. (Or else Gurren Lagann might go the same path as his predecessor most busted mecha in fiction Elder God DemonBane.) Not to mention getting your hands on it directly is almost equal to finding lost media, and i don't think DB will go to THE extent of acquiring it and then translating it by themselves.

(Also, i admitedly am not a fan of VSwiki's new R>F standards, since it pretty much made half of Low 1-C characters get a shortcut to 1-A. Not to mention Simon's example is imo even shakier by the fact the R>F could still in my understanding fall into gag/4th wall breaking and is only affecting minorly as opposed to truly transcending.)
 
Would it be controversial for Simon won because of the CD stuff? Simon winning because of something that casual fans have probably never even heard of because it only released in Japan and never got an official english translation feels like it would be scuffed.
FR, GL (Gurren Lagann, not Green Lantern) is one of my top 3 anime and i watched all spin-offs + read the manga, and even then last 2 weeks was the first time i heard the Drama CD's had powerscaling potential. From the cover i thought it was just some highschool AU.
 
Simon winning from a CD giving him R>F transcendence into Outerversal is absolutely NOT gonna be digestible to the main audience.

I wager if they buy it, it's a black box to show their cosmologies are practically equal and the major point in the episode will be focused on Simon's adaptation making any strength advantage irrelevant eventually
 
Pretty sure that the G1 Blog got wrong some stuff regarding R>F, also, 1-A Gurren Lagann has already been rejected here

(Also, i admitedly am not a fan of VSwiki's new R>F standards, since it pretty much made half of Low 1-C characters get a shortcut to 1-A.
It's 50/50 i think, some characters got downgrade and others upgraded
 
Reading what was said in the blog from the translations, I don't really see the "reality" part of the equation. They're in a CD and they are very meta about knowing where they are, but who's to say that CD is "real"? Just because they break the 4th wall and refer to the audience? Hell, they don't even explicitly mention the CD itself or how real it may be. It's just kinda vague imo
 
Reading what was said in the blog from the translations, I don't really see the "reality" part of the equation. They're in a CD and they are very meta about knowing where they are, but who's to say that CD is "real"? Just because they break the 4th wall and refer to the audience? Hell, they don't even explicitly mention the CD itself or how real it may be. It's just kinda vague imo
1-A Mario Kart because when i blow into my Nintendo DS's speakers Luigi's ballons start filling up and his cart can drag 1-A air around with no strain.
 
It seems like they got a bit lost in their sauce with the scaling for this one. It reminds me of the Frieza vs Megatron blog where they gave Megatron everything under the sun all for the episode to scale him only to the G1 cartoon and IDW and cap him at universal
 
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