DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[TMaakkonen]

Pokemon honestly have practically all advantages in VS debate settings. Lions likely cant even scratch them. In casual talk it might be more even. Like, how does all stuff even work? Will a single Earthquake hit all billions lions? Without gameplay stuff is that valid?

Nah it's just the cyberspace (X Version) and Zero Space stuff making them scale to 27 universes while DBS top tiers scale to 6 universes. EXE is actually weaker and slower than X on this wiki now (And apparently might be getting downgraded in the future to being the weakest version of Mega Man besides volnutt?).

:V
Also I was suspicious EXE dimension shit too teehee
But surprising if VSW would actually do that, uni EXE is accepted for long time.

 

[Dust_Collector]

But surprising if VSW would actually do that, uni EXE is accepted for long time.

I mean star level Mario and Metroid were accepted for years and now the former only recently got upgraded from their inital island level downgrade to mutli-continent level and the latter now peaks at country level

 

[Dust_Collector]

I have no idea why what I just typed is crossed out

 

[Imaginym]

Preview was pretty neat.

BTW, I do apologize. Pokemon vs Lions brings out a bad side of me.
I've seen people argue for the lions, sometimes honestly, sometimes dishonestly. I've seen it so much, it's insufferable to me.

As such, I can't stand people arguing for the lions in this, whether they're in jest or not.
There are people on the internet lacking in knowledge enough to believe arguments for the lions, & as such, anyone who argues for it, jokingly or not, risks spreading that ignorance. & I can't stand the idea of abiding the spread of such wrongness.

As such, I do again apologize for my recent behaviour.
Despite what I have said recently, I hope you can forgive me, users of the following posts:

Nope, Lions maul 'em. Not to mention they can use team attacks.

Double it and give it to the next person(you probably)

Yeah but 1 billion is like a lot :^)

Regardless of the outcome, best wishes, all.

 

[TMaakkonen]

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Straight up quoting Libera Me From Hell. Nice.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[MagdalenusTenebrosus]

Would this end up being a Flash vs Sonic situation where they said that they matched in a specific stat but because Wally could also absorb the speed from Sonic it would mean that he'd always be faster? We know that Kyle is gonna get energy draining as an ability which is like the one thing that we never see Simon actually do from what I remember. When the Anti Spiral hit them with that Big Bang blast it required Lordgenome to sacrifice himself for them to be able to absorb/redirect it. Simon never actually absorbs energy on his own, it took Lordgenome doing so for him and turning it into a drill.

So Kyle and Simon would be equal in power but Kyle being able to drain Simon would mean that he'd always be stronger even if Simon can just regain said spiral power, meaning that Simon is just an unlimited source of power for Kyle like how Sonic was an unlimited source of speed for Wally.

I'm not sure if I can agree.

First off Simon absorbs the Multiversal Labyrinth for its energy, which shows he can absorb things infinitely above him (He was at best 11-D, became 20-D+). Furthermore, he has infinite stamina from the get-go post-apotheosis. Simon also would passively absorb WL ring energy. It's basically the same as Spiral Energy. At best this becomes a stalemate, but the difference also comes in stamina. Simon has infinite Stamina, and correct me if I'm wrong but while Kyle can keep recharging his White Lantern ring it still has a time limit (Even if he can overcharge it like 1000% or whatever). So basically if they do equalize their powers, it's still a guy whose lose condition is being overriden and destroyed, while the other's losecon is to finally reach his ring's limit somehow. Both will keep equally escalating their powerlevels if they really are equallized (Though IMO Simon can rapidly advance it quicker too given again he went from 11-D bound to the Anti-Spiral Realm to 20-D scaling with the CD Drama)

 

[Royalty1702]

So you guys think this fight is going to be another Goku Vs Superman where Kyle just toys with Simon the entire fight? Or Simon eventually closes the gap with infinite Spiral Power growth?

 

[MagdalenusTenebrosus]

So you guys think this fight is going to be another Goku Vs Superman where Kyle just toys with Simon the entire fight? Or Simon eventually closes the gap with infinite Spiral Power growth?

I really hope the fight is them reaching their absolute limit, but Kyle has LE while Simon doesn't and that last piece just pushes him over the edge.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Alright I'm convinced so far, it looks like Simon vs Kyle is going to be a genuine banger of an episode.

I think what I like about this so far is the mixture of sprites and hand drawn animation.

 

[Rayfire]

CINEMA. I think this was really great Although now I’m gonna be replaying it over and over till the episode drops lmao

 

[MagdalenusTenebrosus]

I am legitimately curious what they're gonna use as proof for infinite dimensional DC if they have to go there

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

So you guys think this fight is going to be another Goku Vs Superman where Kyle just toys with Simon the entire fight? Or Simon eventually closes the gap with infinite Spiral Power growth?

Moreso expecting a cosmic scale version of All Might vs Might Guy where both get respect

Also betting on a Simon W

 

[Rangoon04]

"15 or 16 universes" scaling to this guy

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Hm. So in that case, Zero would be slightly stronger and also way faster? The revision has him at 300+ quintillion c but I can only find low trillions c calcs for canon Kirby, which would mean MK gets super blitzed unfortunately.

 

[MagdalenusTenebrosus]

Moreso expecting a cosmic scale version of All Might vs Might Guy where both get respect

Also betting on a Simon W

When was the kickstarter again? Because the Gurren Lagann Otoko no Jouken stuff was discovered August 2024. It might have been too late by then for the research team to include it. Which is why I believe they'll black box it and then saying "Well DC is infinite D so doesn't matter" (bullshit) (Even though another thing says Simon transcends dimensions and time)

 

[Rangoon04]

When was the kickstarter again? Because the Gurren Lagann Otoko no Jouken stuff was discovered August 2024. It might have been too late by then for the research team to include it. Which is why I believe they'll black box it and then saying "Well DC is infinite D so doesn't matter" (bullshit) (Even though another thing says Simon transcends dimensions and time)

It started on July 30, 2024 and ended 30 days later on August 29, and since they likely started production, if not research at the least by then, what you're positing might happen

 

[NotoriouSoda]

So what’s X most likely MU? Samus or someone else.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

So what’s X most likely MU? Samus or someone else.

Optimus Primal.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

So what’s X most likely MU? Samus or someone else.

Samus and Primal

 

[Tipper17]

So you guys think this fight is going to be another Goku Vs Superman 2 where Kyle just toys with Simon the entire fight? Or Simon eventually closes the gap with infinite Spiral Power growth?

Lil fixed but all might vs might guy here cosmic edition

 

[Tipper17]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Shit, they’re cooking

 

[Maskofthedragon]

That boot is gonna look so good when it crushes Simon

 

[Joycap]

I think binging Bleach just gave me a REALLY good Chairman Bana MU.

I'm not sure how I feel about this...

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ooh I'm really liking what I see. The fight scenario feels similar to Goku Vs Superman 3

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also very excited about that theme song. Sounds like its pulling elements from will of the drill.

 

[Bigdongus]

This is looking awesome holy shit

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also seems to me the way the fight escalation works is that Simon will face Kyle in Base GL, Arc GL and SGGL, before being pushed into TTGL as the battle goes from Earth to space, in which by that point, Kyle will respond by going into WL.

Fight will escalate further with both using STTGL and the LE, and the fights end with them fist fighting as just humans.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

It's funny because even when they're both just as Humans, they're still uni to multi lol

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

 

[Tipper17]

DC fans lucky this be non canon

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I like how OP just doesn't mention Sonic blitzed him with the chaos emerald and not on his own.

It's like the Flash Vs Sonic thing from issue 1.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Only problem I have with preview is that I feel Kyle's voice is maybe a bit too deep? It sounds good, but the more mature tone sounds more like Hal. I always imagined he'd somewhat similar to Steven Yeun's Invincible, especially given Kyle's younger age, but I'll wait for the full battle before I make judgements.

 

[Tipper17]

I like how OP just doesn't mention Sonic blitzed him with the chaos emerald and not on his own.

It's like the Flash Vs Sonic thing from issue 1.

You have to understand logic and truth don't mean shit to the agenda

 

[Bigdongus]

Agenda posting is one of the worst things to happen to VS