DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[TMaakkonen]

Oh I almost forgot a fun fact.

Because of timing, Among Us vs Fall Guys managed to be 1st losing ballot from recent ones to get in DB, it actually beat out Kratos vs Asura lmao

I think it was 6-D, but iirc, I think that one was simplified to make it more digestible? Doesn't help that there are arguments for DC having even higher dimensions, on top of stuff like Sphere of the Gods level scaling, which is above the multiverse entirely.

Directly I think actual ep had 6D, but there is no way theyd have Raven > Superman pffft

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Directly I think actual ep had 6D, but there is no way theyd have Raven > Superman pffft

Yeah. It was definitely one of those things where DB simplified feats for the sake of making it more digestible to the casual audience. which is pretty justified for an episode as big as GvS3

 

[TMaakkonen]

I dont think they have ever made canon DBS universes higher than millions x uni since HulkBroly :V

With direct numbers on screen that is.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

And now, your random verse lore drop:



Spike getting Space Dandy scaling when?

 

[Spinoirr]

I think it was 6-D, but iirc, I think that one was simplified to make it more digestible? Doesn't help that there are arguments for DC having even higher dimensions, on top of stuff like Sphere of the Gods level scaling, which is above the multiverse entirely.

No I remember it was 7D via the big massive research blog

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

And now, your random verse lore drop:



Spike getting Space Dandy scaling when?

I'm gonna assume different time periods.

 

[Spinoirr]

No I remember it was 7D via the big massive research blog

with the release of Goku vs Superman 3, one of the main researcher has released his research for the ep (which he apparently gone through every single piece of Superman media for)

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[TMaakkonen]

Hmm does it count as being treated badly if a verse keeps losing in DB, even if itd be justified? aka DBZ's future

 

[BlackDarkness679]

And now, your random verse lore drop:



Spike getting Space Dandy scaling when?

Does it make sense for all to share same universe? Like arent all different in technology and all that

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Hmm does it count as being treated badly if a verse keeps losing in DB, even if itd be justified? aka DBZ's future

Probably not. I feel what counts for being "treated badly" should mainly come down to the analysis of said fights. The "how" is more important than the "who wins" for me personally.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Makoto Yuki vs Alan Wake!!!!! Let's just keep throwing vague ideas at the wall until something sticks!! That's how we got Gioker

Hey, in Giokers defense the MU does have connections. Hell, Jojo and persona have been compared a lot in the past, so much so the creator of Jojo and Artist for Persona met up one time

 

[Tipper17]

I think it was 6-D, but iirc, I think that one was simplified to make it more digestible? Doesn't help that there are arguments for DC having even higher dimensions, on top of stuff like Sphere of the Gods level scaling, which is above the multiverse entirely.

what the highest shit a peak WL scales to the cosmology currently

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

No I remember it was 7D via the big massive research blog

I thought it was "6D" (the "Sixth Dimension" in DC actually being far higher than 6D)

They've equalized DC's cosmology to Marvel's numerous times, so they obviously have it way higher than Complex Multi

 

[Jiangshi1]

Does it make sense for all to share same universe? Like arent all different in technology and all that

Samurai Champloo takes place during the Edo Period (1600 to 1868) so it can be assumed its too far back to matter outside of me remembering it was a fan theory that Mugen is Spike's ancestor. I haven't seen Space Dandy or heard of Lazaerus but from what I assume, it could take place further from Carole & Tuesday and Cowboy Bebop - honestly I think C&T and CBBP could be roughly the same time period or the former slightly ahead. Technology gaps making them spread further apart makes a lot of sense - theres still civilizations like the North Sentinal Islanders who still use spears when most nations have drones and railguns so the tech doesn't really matter for something like that

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Samurai Champloo takes place during the Edo Period (1600 to 1868) so it can be assumed its too far back to matter outside of me remembering it was a fan theory that Mugen is Spike's ancestor. I haven't seen Space Dandy or heard of Lazaerus but from what I assume, it could take place further from Carole & Tuesday and Cowboy Bebop - honestly I think C&T and CBBP could be roughly the same time period or the former slightly ahead. Technology gaps making them spread further apart makes a lot of sense - theres still civilizations like the North Sentinal Islanders who still use spears when most nations have drones and railguns so the tech doesn't really matter for something like that

If I remember correctly, Space dandy has a fridge monster that showed up in Cowboy Bebop

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Samurai Champloo takes place during the Edo Period (1600 to 1868) so it can be assumed its too far back to matter outside of me remembering it was a fan theory that Mugen is Spike's ancestor. I haven't seen Space Dandy or heard of Lazaerus but from what I assume, it could take place further from Carole & Tuesday and Cowboy Bebop - honestly I think C&T and CBBP could be roughly the same time period or the former slightly ahead. Technology gaps making them spread further apart makes a lot of sense - theres still civilizations like the North Sentinal Islanders who still use spears when most nations have drones and railguns so the tech doesn't really matter for something like that

So basically they live in different time periods but all share the same universe

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Who should Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men fight

 

[Mantidil]

Samurai Champloo takes place during the Edo Period (1600 to 1868) so it can be assumed its too far back to matter outside of me remembering it was a fan theory that Mugen is Spike's ancestor. I haven't seen Space Dandy or heard of Lazaerus but from what I assume, it could take place further from Carole & Tuesday and Cowboy Bebop - honestly I think C&T and CBBP could be roughly the same time period or the former slightly ahead. Technology gaps making them spread further apart makes a lot of sense - theres still civilizations like the North Sentinal Islanders who still use spears when most nations have drones and railguns so the tech doesn't really matter for something like that

Well, Space Dandy was shown to be a tv show in Carole & Tuesday, so that complicates things.

 

[Bigdongus]

When is this thing coming out again, next Sunday?

 

[Tipper17]

When is this thing coming out again, next Sunday?

Yes next Sunday
Also happy thanksgiving

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

Who should Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men fight

Judge Holden from Blood Meridian (assuming Arthur Morgan doesn’t happen first)

 

[Bigdongus]

Yes next Sunday
Also happy thanksgiving

Well my thanksgiving is postponed due to a massive snowstorm lmao

 

[Tipper17]

Well my thanksgiving is postponed due to a massive snowstorm lmao

well shit sorry to hear

 

[Imaginym]

I have finished Metaphor and it is funny

Spoiler

That is uses SMT element system and even has major story element of weapon bypassing powerful magic and they classify that as Almighty element. Funny timing after JokerGiorno lol

Spoiler

Weapon bypassing powerful magic? How do you mean? It bypasses weapons? Weapons bypass the magic? & which is classified as Almighty? The weapons or the magic?

 

[Imaginym]

Oh I almost forgot a fun fact.

Because of timing, Among Us vs Fall Guys managed to be 1st losing ballot from recent ones to get in DB, it actually beat out Kratos vs Asura lmao

How's that work? It got in despite losing ballot? Timing with what?

Well, Space Dandy was shown to be a tv show in Carole & Tuesday, so that complicates things.

This better not kill any Space Dandy scaling stuff.

 

[coolgohan09]

Random but shouldnt base Bowser not be 1 shotted by Metal Sonic, the Infinite multiverse scaling from pure hearts and dream stuff is done by base M&L.

 

[JJSliderman]

Dream stone doesn’t scale to the multiverse as a whole.
Pure hearts are interesting because it actually doesn’t change Dimentio or the player’s attack stat at all, so from a gameplay sense you could argue base Mario scaling, but narrative wise it would cause lots of circular scaling problems.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Random but shouldnt base Bowser not be 1 shotted by Metal Sonic, the Infinite multiverse scaling from pure hearts and dream stuff is done by base M&L.

The things that happen in the animation are just for entertainment value, not actually a representation of what happens in the real fight.

But based off their logic: Super Neo Metal Sonic would be comparable to Bowser since they scaled the Chaos Emeralds to the Time Eater and Solaris, who they said had the ability to affect the entire multiverse and all that jazz.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

what the highest shit a peak WL scales to the cosmology currently

White Lantern on their own is in the Multiversal ranges, but with the Life Equation, definitely Sphere of the Gods level.

Via VSBW standards, they'd be 2-C normally and 1-B with the LE.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Who should Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men fight

Who?

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

How's that work? It got in despite losing ballot? Timing with what?

During the first ever ballot (the one that lead to Billcord and Colex getting made), Among Us vs Fall Guys and Kratos vs Asura were both options, but ultimately lost. Kratosura is happening now regardless due to the Kickstarter, but Amonguys was one of the four episodes being worked on before RT went under. As such, it ended up happening first of the rwo.

 

[coolgohan09]

The things that happen in the animation are just for entertainment value, not actually a representation of what happens in the real fight.

But based off their logic: Super Neo Metal Sonic would be comparable to Bowser since they scaled the Chaos Emeralds to the Time Eater and Solaris, who they said had the ability to affect the entire multiverse and all that jazz.

Wasnt neo metal sonic who one-shotted browser powered by 1 emerlad or smthing

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Wasnt neo metal sonic who one-shotted browser powered by 1 emerlad or smthing

It seems I misread your question, my apologies.

Anyways: yes, he was powered by one Emerald. But you need to remember that, as I said, everything that happens in the animation is just for entertainment and not an accurate representation of what happens in the actual fight itself.

Bowser, based off how DB scales him, would've more than likely one shotted Neo Metal in base. But for the sake of entertainment, and because it was cool, they had No Metal one shotting Bowser after transforming.

 

[Tipper17]

White Lantern on their own is in the Multiversal ranges, but with the Life Equation, definitely Sphere of the Gods level.

Via VSBW standards, they'd be 1-C normally and 1-B with the LE.

what get them there

 

[coolgohan09]

It seems I misread your question, my apologies.

Anyways: yes, he was powered by one Emerald. But you need to remember that, as I said, everything that happens in the animation is just for entertainment and not an accurate representation of what happens in the actual fight itself.

Bowser, based off how DB scales him, would've more than likely one shotted Neo Metal in base. But for the sake of entertainment, and because it was cool, they had No Metal one shotting Bowser after transforming.

Yeah ik just using their logic and scaling metal sonic would have fricking died to king boo or anyone who scales to Base M&L/Bowser. it just feels weird thinking like that

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Yeah ik just using their logic and scaling metal sonic would have ******* died to king boo or anyone who scales to Base M&L/Bowser. it just feels weird thinking like that

I don't think there's much need to think too seriously about it, my friend. Just understand that everything you see in the fight itself is the main reason why people tune in to DB and that everything we see in the animation is strictly entertainment, the research and analysis is pretty much just the appetizer if you were to ask me.

 

[coolgohan09]

I don't think there's much need to think too seriously about it, my friend. Just understand that everything you see in the fight itself is the main reason why people tune in to DB and that everything we see in the animation is strictly entertainment, the research and analysis is pretty much just the appetizer if you were to ask me.

Yeah i just find it funny like, metal sonic can get thwomped as much as infinite.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Yeah i just find it funny like, metal sonic can get thwomped as much as infinite.

Well keep in mind in mind that Bowser was scaled to Universal: all the multiversal stuff for Bowser was at his peak with the Dream Stone and the Pure Hearts. I mean he'd still be stronger than Neo Metal off stats alone, but he wasn't multiversal by himself or with the Grand Star.

 

[Tipper17]