DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Seems likely.

Curious about users here too, for anyone who here voted WileETom to win, are you disappointed that KratosAsura happens before it?

I wasn't part of the TOC, but I imagine that some would be disappointed by the fact that KratosAsura is happening before WileETom.

I mean TomWileE was the result of fans coming together to get their own MU into the show, is it not reasonable to expect DB to do what the fans asked for? Especially since, afaik, people had to have a tier subscription to participate in the TOC?

I don't want to say anything ill about the team, but I'd make TomWileE a priority to do as soon as possible if I was in their shoes.

 

[Spinoirr]

 

[Tipper17]

Oh look my track

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Seems likely.

Curious about users here too, for anyone who here voted WileETom to win, are you disappointed that KratosAsura happens before it?

On the one hand, it does kinda suck that the runner-up will likely happen before the winner, especially with the campaigning behind WilleTom (still mad about Coyote vs. Acme...). On the other hand, Kratosura is one of the most requested MUs in the show's history, and they kinda need that hype now that they're independant. Plus, maybe if we're lucky, this'll give them an excuse to go all out on WilleTom: we all know what they can do with 2D animated cartoon characters thanks to Scoobage.

 

[Tyranno223]

Gonna be honest, DB may have revitalised my old enjoyment of Sonic. I'm starting to get back into it a bit.

 

[TartaChocholate]

The last real game outside of the collections is Megaman 11, and it's already been 6 years!!!! Do we really have to wait for the 40th anniversary now????

All the Legacy Collections sold well, didn't they? What else do you want Capcom?!

 

[EJthe24th]

Damn

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

I can imagine Tipper jumping around excitingly.

 

[Tipper17]

I can imagine Tipper jumping around excitingly.

I was
Anyway I say personally the track was good I feel it'll be better once it happens as a official DB

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

They knew...

 

[Deidalius]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Ngl, this kinda makes me want a Hunter vs Terraria or Terrarian vs Bloodborne video

 

[Bigdongus]

I really, really hope creepypastas never get on the show, man in the suit, red, Sonic.exe? Miss me with that shit.

Horror from the vault is the only creepypasta from the last decade that I’ve enjoyed.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

I really, really hope creepypastas never get on the show, man in the suit, red, Sonic.exe? Miss me with that shit.

Horror from the vault is the only creepypasta from the last decade that I’ve enjoyed.

Slenderman has a non zero chance

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

I really, really hope creepypastas never get on the show, man in the suit, red, Sonic.exe? Miss me with that shit.

Horror from the vault is the only creepypasta from the last decade that I’ve enjoyed.

Do Analog Horrors count as creepypastas?

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Do Analog Horrors count as creepypastas?

I know some of them are directly based on creepypastas (Needlem0use imediately comes to mind).

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

https://www.deviantart.com/joshdoshmosh/art/1125287811

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I am still a strong advocate for Death Battle doing Knuckles Vs Wario.

It was my most wanted match-up when I was a kid.

 

[Jiangshi1]

Seems likely.

Curious about users here too, for anyone who here voted WileETom to win, are you disappointed that KratosAsura happens before it?

Truthfully both unsurprised and disappointed. KratosAsura was in the ToC for two years straight so I knew even if it lost, they'd just do it just because. WileETom being pushed back could make sense given how assuming it's going to be hand drawn (I'd love to see if Moro was doing it because didn't he say recently its not the last time he'd be helping Death Battle?) But also given how RT was Zaslav'd, I wouldn't be surprised if they canned it altogether or just want to push it back for whatever other reason

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Truthfully both unsurprised and disappointed. KratosAsura was in the ToC for two years straight so I knew even if it lost, they'd just do it just because. WileETom being pushed back could make sense given how assuming it's going to be hand drawn (I'd love to see if Moro was doing it because didn't he say recently its not the last time he'd be helping Death Battle?) But also given how RT was Zaslav'd, I wouldn't be surprised if they canned it altogether or just want to push it back for whatever other reason

It's not canned though??? It's been promised still, so it's likely being pushed back to give it that quality treatment.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Yeah its not canned, they said they want to take their time with it. Issue would be that they started workng on specific ToC MU that didnt even end up winning, granted it was runner up in both polls so it was still popular.

 

[Imaginym]

After what netherrealm did to him, its cuz their character chapter system means the character as which the player gotta fight as beats all the rest till over even if its battles on a consistent basis wouldnt happen

Hence why Street Fighter and Tekken do a better job as handling it, even if you win with a character weaker then the opponent, in canon thats displayed as struggling, with the opponent more or less shrugging it off or even ending in a stalemate with both still on their feet

Am I interpreting you right?

Whichever character the player plays as, must win their fights, & in Mortal Kombat they have "character chapters" to show off these victories, even when they don't make sense?

Whereas in Street Fighter & Tekken, they also have story scenes for whoever the player's character of choice is winning an implausible fight, but they handle nigh-impossible victories better?

What are some examples? Of times where the means of seemingly unlikely victory is innovative & sensible? Where a player character victory doesn't make sense? & where SF &/or Tekken do something better than MK?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Am I interpreting you right?

Whichever character the player plays as, must win their fights, & in Mortal Kombat they have "character chapters" to show off these victories, even when they don't make sense?

If the game says you play Johnny Cage as chapter 1, you play him and you win all fights he faces off, in MKX he beats Shinnok, which normally shouldnt, tbf though for that instance he has a in universe explanation which his daughter follows against Shinnok near end too being a repeat of the past as to why he can win, but if not for that, the player wins to advance the story

Whereas in Street Fighter & Tekken, they also have story scenes for whoever the player's character of choice is winning an implausible fight, but they handle nigh-impossible victories better?

Unlike MK, they dont commit to the opponent you beaten being put down on the ground, either both are shown to be evenly matched or be showing up to be still going

What are some examples? Of times where the means of seemingly unlikely victory is innovative & sensible? Where a player character victory doesn't make sense? & where SF &/or Tekken do something better than MK?

Shao Kahn losing to Kitana, despite the fact only somebody like Liu Kang and Raiden can legit beat his ass and Kitana lost to Liu Kang before, with the dude just playing with her around

For Street Fighter you have for example Juri and Vega both still stand up in cutscenes, with none winning over the other, despite you winning as Juri in gameplay

For Tekken you got for example Jin vs Kazuya where even though you win the rounds as Jin, Kazuya either just goes to his knees for a bit before getting up immediately or straight up gets up to deliver a strike pushing you on your knees before a cutscene show them continue after

 

[TokiNoOuja]

They did show an alternate ending for that, where Bowser just turns Eggman into a Goomba

Kinda late but what do you think about that??kinda funny that a Super state that rivals Super Hedgehog got bested by transmutation

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Well that's because Eggman wasn't watching the Super Mario Brothers Super Show, obviously. Why else do you think he specifically turned into a Goomba?

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Chronicplane]

Wiz: "this was an extremely close fight"

-goes on to explain why x is thousands times stronger, thousands times faster, tougher and basically says nuh uh to all his abilities and hax while having a gazillion hax.
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[StarShooter80]

Wiz: "this was an extremely close fight"

-goes on to explain why x is thousands times stronger, thousands times faster, tougher and basically says nuh uh to all his abilities and hax while having a gazillion hax.
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That’s Wiz for you. Meanwhile Boomstick casually talks about the time he shoved sixteen sticks of dynamite into his neighbor’s dog house

 

[StarShooter80]

I actually think Death Battle profiles (the original characters) from FCOC can be moved to vsbw

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Wiz: "this was an extremely close fight"

-goes on to explain why x is thousands times stronger, thousands times faster, tougher and basically says nuh uh to all his abilities and hax while having a gazillion hax.
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I think that's a general problem, they tend to focus too much on the winner's side while kinda glazing over side factors. Tho in the case of Bowser vs Eggman, I think it's somewhat forgivable considering how much stuff they both have, and they need to compact it all in a digestible manner otherwise they start sounding convoluted.

 

[Chronicplane]

I think that's a general problem, they tend to focus too much on the winner's side while kinda glazing over side factors. Tho in the case of Bowser vs Eggman, I think it's somewhat forgivable considering how much stuff they both have, and they need to compact it all in a digestible manner otherwise they start sounding convoluted.

Yeah I guess, honestly kinda saddening in the episode it seemed like the only advantage Eggman had was intelligence.

 

[Tipper17]

I think that's a general problem, they tend to focus too much on the winner's side while kinda glazing over side factors. Tho in the case of Bowser vs Eggman, I think it's somewhat forgivable considering how much stuff they both have, and they need to compact it all in a digestible manner otherwise they start sounding convoluted.

I feel they have to do something to make those black boxes be notable because there just way too easy to gloss over

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Yeah I guess, honestly kinda saddening in the episode it seemed like the only advantage Eggman had was intelligence.

I think in the case of Bowser vs Eggman, it had very straight forward conclusions from my perspective:

Bowser was stronger and faster in base and most of their useable forms/machines, they had comparable hax abilities but Bowser's were mostly innate and easily accessible, Eggman was objectively smarter than Bowser, and their trump cards were equal to each other so there was no need to place one over the other. The only thing that I think was irrelevant to the fight was the "loyalty" of their armies, which I get that Eggman has a hard time having allies that remain loyal to him....but Eggman's army consists of machines and robots, robots that have only turned against Eggman through hacking or other circumstances (which Eggman has done a better job at preventing).

Other than that nitpick? I feel like DB did a decent job explaining why Bowser won without it being overwhelming or complex.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

The only thing that I think was irrelevant to the fight was the "loyalty" of their armies, which I get that Eggman has a hard time having allies that remain loyal to him....but Eggman's army consists of machines and robots, robots that have only turned against Eggman through hacking or other circumstances (which Eggman has done a better job at preventing).

It kinda did ig? It does show that Bowser would have overall better field control and the tactical advantage over Eggman's army.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Honestly they could've made the loyalty point more relevant by bringing up the whole minion spirit thing, Bowsers army can get noticable stat boosts (I think a relatively normal Goomba grew to the point of contending with the Koopalings) and gain resistances to stuff like mind control through their sheer devotion to Bowser.