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And I suspect that if you pit Saitama against a character that scales to 500 exatons, then that character will be considered slightly stronger than Saitama. Because it scales to higher energies.

Although logically, he should tear him apart, because Boros is only slightly weaker than him. But the profiles of this wiki prohibit greatly multiplying the characteristics of the character. Sad.
Yeap, someone with a higher calc than him will have the AP advantage, that's only fair
 
Seeing as we can see the size of the crater formed by Saitama's moon jump on Boros's ship, Could we use that to scale the energy required to destroy 1^3 meter of the hull? Then we can see how much of it Boros is capable of destroying in one attck while in Meteoric Burst to scale his AP more precisely?

Also, this would not be calc stacking, as we are finding the durability of the ship's hull, and then using that as our baseline. It would be more like how we scaled Vibranium, and characters breaking it, rather than Example three on the calc stacking page I have some calculations for this already done, but I don't have a program for pixel scaling, I just have to do really precise measurements with protractors and rulers, so mine are not too acurate.

And that's only for the strength of one cubic meter of the hull, I didn't go through the effort of Boros destroying it yet.
 
You know, I think OPM is one of the fanbases with the most "I need higher stats no matter what" that I've seen on the wiki. The search for higher numbers just because never made sense to me
Yeah agreed. Idk it just feels nice having your characters be as strong as possible. Because then you can brag about them i guess.
 
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I just want tier 2-A/Tier 1 Saitama so I can laugh at toxic Goku fanboys. I lost count of how many times I saw random comments about how Goku one-shots Saitama in completely OPM related videos
 
I prefer consistency over high ratings, I've been stigmatized at 5-C+ Genos and the gap between the High Tiers and Top Tiers being an x11 trillion difference at some point (at least we have High 7-A OPM now)
 
I just want tier 2-A/Tier 1 Saitama so I can laugh at toxic Goku fanboys. I lost count of how many times I saw random comments about how Goku one-shots Saitama in completely OPM related videos
And you think they are wrong, but to prove such thing, you need a new feat ? Wouldn't that make them right for now ?
 
I prefer consistency over high ratings, I've been stigmatized at 5-C+ Genos and the gap between the High Tiers and Top Tiers being a 1.1e+13x difference at some point (at least we have High 7-A OPM now)
Same here. I want our profiles to be as accurate as possible. However, personally, i would just really like it if the verse was tier 5 or higher (and it made sense of course).
 
While at the same time with the most low ballers That's why I've been planning of asking some people here if they have a DC account so we could just go talk there instead of here since for some reason other fanbases stick here just to low ball shit but i disregarded that idea since it sounds kinda embarrassing and since I'm not really close to most people here
 
Seeing as we can see the size of the crater formed by Saitama's moon jump on Boros's ship, Could we use that to scale the energy required to destroy 1^3 meter of the hull? Then we can see how much of it Boros is capable of destroying in one attck while in Meteoric Burst to scale his AP more precisely?

Also, this would not be calc stacking, as we are finding the durability of the ship's hull, and then using that as our baseline. It would be more like how we scaled Vibranium, and characters breaking it, rather than Example three on the calc stacking page I have some calculations for this already done, but I don't have a program for pixel scaling, I just have to do really precise measurements with protractors and rulers, so mine are not too acurate.

And that's only for the strength of one cubic meter of the hull, I didn't go through the effort of Boros destroying it yet.
That looks interesting to me.
 
Also, there is one thing that kinda bothers me about Atomic's profiles


His durability says:

Durability: At least City level (Even after splitting up to a point where his larger bodies were largely ineffective against the likes of Genos, Black Sperm was able to damage Atomic Samurai)
Basically it quotes an anti-feat for him, said version of Genos is only 7-B, no "at least", so why AS scales higher ?
 
Is it being assumed the continent slice “lifted up” the disc? It doesn’t make much sense to me. I always figured she just vaporised a large gap between the disc and the earth. That’s why the disc didn’t get pushed into the clouds above it.

There’s also the fact the beam itself doesn’t move the clouds it sliced through with a giant blast of air pressure; although King was sent flying. Seems like only where it’s fired from has a shockwave, but not the beam itself.
 
Idk how to insert an image from my drive onto the site... The result I got though was that to destroy 1 cubic meter of the ship given Saitama's moon jump energy, would be 1.18523658534 Petatons of tnt.
 
I can’t tell if this is a joke or not. Goku just hakai’s him from existence.

Also Tatsumaki > Mogami > Goku I guess.
He has passive sleep inducement/mind incursion lol

Mogami is the strongest ONE character by far in terms of abilities.
 
He has passive sleep inducement/mind incursion lol

Mogami is the strongest ONE character by far in terms of abilities.
Neither of which would work unless you assume he can bait Goku into his trap or somehow get through Goku’s ki barrier and into his mind before Goku raises his hand and says a single word: “hakai”.

No, Mogami is a decently strong character with a few powerful abilities in context. Mob only got so screwed over because Mogami BAITED him into a specific trap. He didn’t just think and Mob was suddenly lulled to sleep and pulled into the mind dimension.

As soon as Mob got his sense of self back Mogami was almost instantly screwed. Hell, Mogami didn’t even do most of the fighting, but his mass of spirits he couldn’t even control. Mob basically two-shot him.
 
Neither of which would work unless you assume he can bait Goku into his trap or somehow get through Goku’s ki barrier and into his mind before Goku raises his hand and says a single word: “hakai”.

No, Mogami is a decently strong character with a few powerful abilities in context. Mob only got so screwed over because Mogami BAITED him into a specific trap. He didn’t just think and Mob was suddenly lulled to sleep and pulled into the mind dimension.

As soon as Mob got his sense of self back Mogami was almost instantly screwed. Hell, Mogami didn’t even do most of the fighting, but his mass of spirits he couldn’t even control. Mob basically two-shot him.
he did this to a crowd of people with weak esper abilities by just coming into existence

Goku would fall to the floor and Mogami just possesses gg lol
 
Goku stands there completely unfazed while Mogami can’t even suck 1% of his soul before Goku says “hakai” and bonks Mogami from existence.

Trying to use an NLF? The feat you showed is him eating the souls of some espers who didn’t have barriers up who’s best feats WHEN COMBINING THEIR STRENGTH come to knocking over buildings and lifting trucks. Kind of weird to compare them to universal level Goku.
 
You know, I was thinking on how big of a disappointment Sweet Mask was in this arc that I imagined a scenario where he gets up while most of the others are sleeping/KOed and pushes Garou by using his own "partial monster form" (Where he gets black eyes, spiky hair, some changes on his look, but still looking like a human, while massively amping himself), ngl it would be interesting, a fight between a human who wants to be a monster Vs a Monster who wants to be a human and both of their transformation arcs kick in

Sweet Mask's impressive performance as a Partial Monster would be to hype up his full monster form on later arcs

Shame they hate my boy, give me two chapters to write and I make Sweet Mask a fan favorite 🗿
 
Goku stands there completely unfazed while Mogami can’t even suck 1% of his soul before Goku says “hakai” and bonks Mogami from existence.

Trying to use an NLF? The feat you showed is him eating the souls of some espers who didn’t have barriers up who’s best feats WHEN COMBINING THEIR STRENGTH come to knocking over buildings and lifting trucks. Kind of weird to compare them to universal level Goku.
How is it kind of weird? That's how hax abilities work.

If you don't have proof to resist it, it doesn't matter how big your AP is. Goku is still a 3-D entity capable of being affected by it.

It is even stated earlier in the manga/anime that espers have a natural resistance to mind hax stuff. So Mogami's is definitely more far potent than average.
 
How is it kind of weird? That's how hax abilities work.

If you don't have proof to resist it, it doesn't matter how big your AP is. Goku is still a 3-D entity capable of being affected by it.

It is even stated earlier in the manga/anime that espers have a natural resistance to mind hax stuff. So Mogami's is definitely more far potent than average.
Goku literally shrugged off a hax technique meant to completely erase an entity from existence; no afterlife, soul and all.

That is a BIT more powerful hax than “sucked some souls out of literal fodder“.

And that’s ignoring the fact his better hax aren’t shown to work outside of his mind dimension, which only worked against Mob because he baited him into his trap, which won’t work on Goku who can sense ki and erase souls from existence so good luck trying to bait him into anything or even get close enough to trap him.

So, again, hakai. Lol.
 
Goku literally shrugged off a hax technique meant to completely erase an entity from existence; no afterlife, soul and all.

That is a BIT more powerful hax than “sucked some souls out of literal fodder“

And that’s ignoring the fact his better hax aren’t shown to work outside of his mind dimension, which only worked against Mob because he baited him into his trap, which won’t work on Goku who can sense ki and erase souls from existence so good luck trying to bait him into anything or even get close enough to trap him.

So, again, hakai. Lol.
Existence Erasure =/= Soul Absorption

He isn't erasing his soul or anything like that, so that isn't really an argument.

And that’s ignoring the fact his better hax aren’t shown to work outside of his mind dimension

It doesn't matter because his passive soul suck already incaps him.

Also his other abilities work faster than Hakai anyway lmao. He can possess Goku in an instant.

Goku who can sense ki and erase souls from existence so good luck trying to bait him into anything or even get close enough to trap him

???? Mogami can regen from soul erasure and he literally resists it anyway.
 
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Mogami stomps all versions of Goku speed equalized
He definitely gets stomped by Xenoverse (resists everything he has on a higher-D scale + has some nasty passive hax like setting your stamina to 0 wich works in beings with unlimited stamina and his sword) and apparently the Jump force crossover one if the whole tier 1 final boss thing is true.
Manga Goku can beat him with hakai since no EE resistance (unless you see exorcism as EE) but i dunno how in-character opening with Hakai is for him.
Other versions can only bypass his regen by sealing him in that evil spirit gourd since no resistance (out of character equipment), plus i don't think goku resists possession.
 
He definitely gets stomped by Xenoverse (resists everything he has on a higher-D scale + has some nasty passive hax like setting your stamina to 0 wich works in beings with unlimited stamina and his sword) and apparently the Jump force crossover one if the whole tier 1 final boss thing is true.
Manga Goku can beat him with hakai since no EE resistance (unless you see exorcism as EE) but i dunno how in-character opening with Hakai is for him.
Other versions can only bypass his regen by sealing him in that evil spirit gourd since no resistance (out of character equipment), plus i don't think goku resists possession.

Hakai is not faster than Mogami's possession
 
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