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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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why do many people disagree that metal bat can be as strong as Garou, compared to Garou Metal Bat has more potential to be strong, if Garou can become as strong as he is now in a short time then it is possible that Metal Bat can also be that strong, we don't even know how Metal Bat's emotions at this time, because from the CD Drive and Databook we can conclude that Metal Bat is not getting stronger due to taking damage
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Speaking of Darkshine would it be possible to give him a possibly High 7-A rating based on VFU being able to take some hits from GS? So VFU would just downscale from GS and Darkshine would be equal to VFU since they matched each other.
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Dark shine was literally one shot by a casual Golden Sperm.
And there's no proof that VFU's dura scales to Darkshine's.
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Casual sounds about right considering he has no reason to use his full strength.
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When did Garou and Do-S cross paths?
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It was rejected several months ago as Do-S mind manipulated requires her to harm Garou. Which she obviously can't
One of the (semi decent) redraws. Can't remember the chapter name
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In the redraw where Bang and co. captured Do-S, they wanted to find Garou, and Do-S revealed that she was tasked with torturing Garou and getting him under her control while he was chained up (like when PPP found him). But she failed.
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Do-S mind control can be resisted via will power. Even Fubuki can resist it because of that. Garou's will power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fubuki's. I'd say that's pretty much all there is to it.
Do-S mind control can be resisted via will power. Even Fubuki can resist it because of that. Garou's will power>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Fubuki's. I'd say that's pretty much all there is to it.
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I don't think Metal Bat scales to Garou yet. For one, Garou even says that he mustn't talk tough because he was beaten by his human form, which implies MB is still inferior to Garou. The second thing is, Metal Bat only tanked a blow from an antenna, which should be calced, but I doubt it is 6-C.
Also, on Darkshine and VFU. This hasn't been said yet, but Fuhrer Ugly gets stronger via humiliation, and the result of that feeling is getting bigger. The bigger he is, the stronger he is. But when he was VFU, the acid prevented him from growing even if he was humiliated, because he needed to regenerate constantly to not get melted and disappear. VFU is as big as Darkshine, but he was much bigger before getting eaten by Gums. So I'd say peak Fuhrer Ugly (the version that fought Bang) was probably way more powerful than Darkshine.
Also, on Darkshine and VFU. This hasn't been said yet, but Fuhrer Ugly gets stronger via humiliation, and the result of that feeling is getting bigger. The bigger he is, the stronger he is. But when he was VFU, the acid prevented him from growing even if he was humiliated, because he needed to regenerate constantly to not get melted and disappear. VFU is as big as Darkshine, but he was much bigger before getting eaten by Gums. So I'd say peak Fuhrer Ugly (the version that fought Bang) was probably way more powerful than Darkshine.
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That's not stated, and Fuhrer strongly implies it isn't the case, even claiming his digestive acids get stronger.
Also, VFU varies in size just as much as FU. In his first appearance, he's comparable to Gums, who was taller than him. After fighting DS, his forearm alone is as big as person, and his fists are the size of people's torsos in the next chapter.
His body basically is acid at this point (requiring protein to maintain this amorphous form) and he even digests it, so I don't even see why he'd be constantly regenerating.
Also, VFU varies in size just as much as FU. In his first appearance, he's comparable to Gums, who was taller than him. After fighting DS, his forearm alone is as big as person, and his fists are the size of people's torsos in the next chapter.
His body basically is acid at this point (requiring protein to maintain this amorphous form) and he even digests it, so I don't even see why he'd be constantly regenerating.
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well we know that his acids supposedly got stronger after getting beat up by GS and HE so by virtue wouldnt his durability have to increase to keep up?
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In both cases he is implying what grows stronger is his digestive acids, not his physical body.
Gums can change size when he is eating (as Pig God and Tank Top Master witnessed when Gums appeared on the surface), so his body would naturally adapt to eat a bigger prey. Gums has been consistently drawn at a similar height to Pig God, and not that much bigger than Genos or TTM. Meanwhile, Fuhrer Ugly's fist was bigger than Bang's full size, who is comparable in height to Genos.
Which is still much smaller than when he fought Bang.
He is constantly regenerating.
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Firstly, he's not implying that in the first quote. Secondly, his digestive acids basically are his body.
He wasn't eating before that scene, and was still comparable to Fuhrer even before he got a bite. I really don't get how this even changes anything anyway because Gums is larger than Fuhrer while trying to eat him, and VFU is larger than this specific Gums.
His extremely inconsistent size that varies depending on fear factor.
I don't see that in the panel. I see his body falling apart and bubbling.
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why would he need protein if his body was digestive fluids
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No. He's just covered in them.
He doesn't need to eat to change in size, he showed that against TTM. And after Gums eats something, his body gets back to his original size. VFU being comparable in size is because he had been melted inside his stomach.
Nah, FU is clearly bigger before getting eaten in every single panel. It is consistent against Child Emperor and Bang.
It is falling apart because the acid is melting it. It is getting back because the feeling of inferiority makes him grow bigger, aka regenerating. It is a constant struggle between him getting stronger while getting melted too.
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Because the acid has consumed his physical body. Are you suggesting VFU is all acid and moves without a solid body inside it?
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we literally see a bunch of blood spilling out when garou oneshots
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And vomits and reconsumes the acid. It absolutely can't just be confined to his flesh.
I'm suggesting that he's become acid and needs protein to maintain his acid form.
You can see defined fingers, and Fuhrer is pressing against his body the entire time, creating elastic stretching sounds.
It isn't, unless you want to claim SW is twice as large as CE. Hell, there's even this panel. Even his body is warped proportionally.
All I'm saying is that you don't have to look hard for massive size differences. You can pick and choose any panel to get any size for VFU and FU, especially if they're supposed to be intimidating or stylised. For example, his fist is also about Bang's size in this panel.
His eyes don't melt even when he's falling apart, so it doesn't surprise me there's some level of blood. Otherwise, his body is portrayed as an amorphous mass, and he mustn't have a very defined form if he's capable of lasting extremely long periods after eating his own acid.
Or he's falling apart because he's basically acid, at this point. In your panel, it only suggests he's melting into a puddle on the exterior (unless Spring can somehow tell he's got a remaining body) and swelling.
Which isn't shown. Also, it previously took time for him to melt, so him melting in an instant doesn't make much sense.
Speaking of time, it also didn't take all that much time for the other parts of his body to melt. So why didn't his flesh regenerate if he uses regeneration to keep his remaining body intact?
Edit: To clarify something else, I do think there’s parts of his body that are still intact, but the arguments are that he’s constantly regenerating his remaining body.
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On stuff like the Darkshine, Flashy Flash, & even MB scaling:
What if, and I know this may be controversial, but what if Platinum Sperm = or slightly > than Golden Sperm in physicality? At least how they are drawn, Golden seems built for power while Platinum seems built for speed.
Platinum doesn't necessarily need to be a million times stronger than Golden just faster (this is all speculation). He might be physically stronger than Golden but not to the level that basically turns Darkshine into fodder.
Cause I know if Darkshine comes back and has a crazy durability or physical feat some people may lose their minds depending on how low they have him on the physical scale and how many imaginary tiers they have placed him below Platinum S and current Garou.
What if, and I know this may be controversial, but what if Platinum Sperm = or slightly > than Golden Sperm in physicality? At least how they are drawn, Golden seems built for power while Platinum seems built for speed.
Platinum doesn't necessarily need to be a million times stronger than Golden just faster (this is all speculation). He might be physically stronger than Golden but not to the level that basically turns Darkshine into fodder.
Cause I know if Darkshine comes back and has a crazy durability or physical feat some people may lose their minds depending on how low they have him on the physical scale and how many imaginary tiers they have placed him below Platinum S and current Garou.
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Golden Sperm is made up of 12 trillion cells, Platinum is made up of 54 trillion, it doesn't make sense for Black Sperm to have created another merged version of himself to take on King if the new merger would only be slightly stronger than Golden Sperm.
Golden Sperm was enough to casually one hit Darkshine
Darkshine was already starting to be overwhelmed by Half Monster Garou who since that point has monsterized even more, mastered several martial arts styles and combined them all into Monster Calamity God Slayer Fist, beaten Awakening Bang and become faster than Flashy Flash.
Current Garou is also stronger than FF and PS who both survived God Slayer Fist and one shot PS when his reactive power level came into play.
Unless you have Half Monster Garou near the level of PS, Darkshine is leagues behind the current High Tiers
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Golden Sperm doesn't just have 12 trillion cells. That number is for the right arm that Atomic Samurai cut off. His cell count after that is 43 trillion, so his original count is implied to be 55 trillion
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do you have any examples of this
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My bad, Golden Sperm merged with 11 trillion more cells after having his arm cut off, although my point about PS surviving God Slayer Fist and fighting FF & Pre-Awakening Garou when Darkshine was started to be overwhelmed by Half Monster Garou still stands.
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The fact that swords simply pass through him and close rather than cutting, his vomit converting into acid (suggesting more than his flesh would need to be acid), him getting caught in his own body and snapping apart, multiple images of a amorphous body (like the HE orbs and the Garou hole), etc.
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Swords did cut through him; his regen is just so insane, along with the acid, that he melted back together. That’s why he said “welding time”. He’s still solid.
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Which heroes could bring peace to the AOT verse without harming a single human?
Pure titans are fair game. Titan shifters are not.
Pure titans are fair game. Titan shifters are not.
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None.
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Child Emperor maybe? If he had to formulate a plan to do so then he could come up with something, all the other S-Class would immediately start throwing hands and the rest of the association is too weak, Saitama wouldn't kill humans but he would definitely one shot any titan shifter trying to attack him
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Beefcake was basically a Colossal Titan at that point
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Maybe CE, Tats, MK and DK.
CE, MK and DK can all come up with plans to apprehend the shifters and can easily kill of the titans.
Tats if she has prep time and doesn't just pull up could devise a plan and be prepared to fight against shifters could devise a plan to do what I suggested above like the other 3.
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