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A Puny Monkey gets to fight a God. Son Goku vs Thor Odinson (24-20-0). status: ADDED

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Continuation of this thread (https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/4128869?useskin=oasis).

Halfway through Black arc Chou Goku with access up to SSJ3 vs. Thor (Marvel Comics). So both are 4-B.

Speed is equalized for obvious reasons
Goku super saiyan 3
Classic Thor
Goku: 24 (UchihaSlayer96, XSOULOFCINDERX, Dragomer, Remy the wolf, Nitro90, Mister6ame6, Akreious, LordTracer, Migue79, AwkguyDB, Lord JJJ, Death Noodles, TheMonsterOfTheAbyss, Tllmbrg, CaptainNutpunch, BakiHanma18, Gilad Hyperstar, LephyrTheRevanchist, Zero0zero0zero, Iisdude1, Eminiteable, SazhFromFF13, DTG499, Milly Rocking Bandit

Thor: 20 (Sir sun man, Adem Warlock69, Zark2099, Stalker Maggot, DizzyMW3, Jackythejack, Dante Demon Killah, Cal, Schnee One, Blue, Soupywolf5, NotoriouSoda, Drite77, The Wright Way, EmperorRorepme, BrazilianDeadpool, ShrekAnakin, Litentric Teon, Malomtek, Jackythejack

Incon:
 
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Remember to add a summary to the arguments at play right now.
 
Goku: Analytical Prediction, Teleportation, dealt with Similar abilities that Thor Possesses, Etc...

Thor: ThermoBlast and Energy Absorption.
 
> Goku win cons are due to AP advantage with transformations, skill advantage in martial arts, Analytical prediction, reactive power level, Teleportation, and warp Kamehameha as well.

> Thor win con (I think theres only one) is a Thermo Blast to Goku before Goku jumps SSJ3 and beats him with far superior AP.

>Thor's WM can not be used in this scenerio because him becoming a mindless brute would allow Goku to turn the tables easier on him. Basically if Broly in Ikari form had a static power level against SSJG Goku and couldn't AP override him.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Goku: Analytical Prediction, Teleportation, dealt with Similar abilities that Thor Possesses, Etc...

Thor: ThermoBlast and Energy Absorption.
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AP and skill advantage, reactive power level
 
Sooo Thor's wincons are: Thermo Blast, supposedly more experience, stamina and versatility which is a bit ooc.

Goku has teleportation, AP, skill and analytical prediction.

Ninja'd by Dragomer.
 
Omegas03 said:
Sooo Thor's wincons are: Thermo Blast, supposedly more experience, stamina and versatility which is a bit ooc.

Goku has teleportation, AP, skill and analytical prediction.
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Stamina is really moot here. The fight won't be that long at all.
 
King Kai being the self-proclaimed best martial arts trainer doesn't show his skill or anything unless you want to scale his training skills above humanity which is fine and all but doesn't do much here.

Beerus training doesn't mean much either like we don't have any level of skill for him other than being able to use pressure point strikes. We don't know how much he trains or what he does.

A lot of this skill is just conjecture at best.

Goku was argued to be the better combatant and analytical prediction

Thor was argued to be the better combatant and has various hax he's used throughout his history. Apparently he won't use his hax because he recently hasn't in newer comics but if we take all his comics into account including the older ones he would definitely use hax at some point.
 
Omegas03 said:
Sooo Thor's wincons are: Thermo Blast, supposedly more experience, stamina and versatility which is a bit ooc.
Goku has teleportation, AP, skill and analytical prediction.

Ninja'd by Dragomer.
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I just copy pasted the last thread's summary XD
 
EmperorRorepme said:
King Kai being the self-proclaimed best martial arts trainer doesn't show his skill or anything unless you want to scale his training skills above humanity which is fine and all but doesn't do much here.
Beerus training doesn't mean much either like we don't have any level of skill for him other than being able to use pressure point strikes. We don't know how much he trains or what he does.

Goku was argued to be the better combatant and analytical prediction

Thor was argued to be the better combatant and has various hax he's used throughout his history. Apparently he won't use his hax because he recently hasn't in newer comics but if we take all his comics into account including the older ones he would definitely use hax at some point.
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It's not self declared, we are told so by Kami, Enma and random Oni.

We know his level of skill so i don't know what you're trying to say here, every single time single wasn't equal to power in DB has been noted like with Spopovitch.

Thor was argued to have more experience, that's all but it's a moot point since Goku faced people with longer history than Thor's.

No, it's not 'recently', those hax showed up once decades ago or haven't been used in 10 years (like the time hax), taking all comics into account, he has less than 0.001% chance of using any of the hax that would matter here.
 
Ok doesn't really do much anyway.

What skill level does he have? I don't know how impressive he is at all. The best he's done is pressure point strikes.

No it isn't? People being older doesn't mean anything skill-wise. Thor has fought every type of thing Goku has and more.

You do realize Thor was created in the 1950s right? So even if he hasn't used hax much in 10 years which you're definitely just guessing, taking into account his older comics it would definitely be elevated a lot. I hope you're not serious with "0.01% if we take all comics into account".
 
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Ok doesn't really do much anyway.
What skill level does he have? I don't know how impressive he is at all. The best he's done is pressure point strikes.

No it isn't? People being older doesn't mean anything skill-wise. Thor has fought every type of thing Goku has and more.

You do realize Thor was created in the 1950s right? So even if he hasn't used hax much in 10 years which you're definitely just guessing, taking into account his older comics it would definitely be elevated a lot. I hope you're not serious with "0.01% if we take all comics into account".
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He can paralyse Vegeta by just looking at him, his guard has no holes even from Goku's point of view and he can casualy blind side and attack holes in Goku's guard without using speed blitz.

And Goku has fought everything Thor can do and more.

Not doing anything for 10 + years of your history out of 50 is still not using something for 1/10 of your totaly existence and that's not like Thor started his carreer with said hax, ask yourself how likely it is for a for a 50 year old man to suddenly use something he learned when he was 38 and hasn't used since he was 40, it's very very unlikely.

0.01% is actualy quite generous given that Thor had thousands of comics but only used such ability in like 20.
 
You are arguing skill because lack of evidence but what is Thor skills evidence exactly sense we all know Goku has prediction down to air currents and malice inside you.

How does Thor get around this?
 
If you take all the comics into play for 616 Thor he doesn't use he's hax majority of the time.

While Goku has or can have the AP advantage and can land anything and win
 
"He can paralyse Vegeta by just looking at him, his guard has no holes even from Goku's point of view and he can casualy blind side and attack holes in Goku's guard without using speed blitz."

First thing doesn't mean anything skill-wise. Ok? And Goku has what skill feats making this impressive?

"And Goku has fought everything Thor can do and more."

You seriously think Goku has fought the same type entities Thor has fought? Thor has 70 year history of comic books being released constantly every year whilst Goku has several hundred manga chapters give or take? Yeah, no.

"Not doing anything for 10 + years of your history out of 50 is still not using something for 1/10 of your totaly existence and that's not like Thor started his carreer with said hax, ask yourself how likely it is for a for a 50 year old man to suddenly use something he learned when he was 38 and hasn't used since he was 40, it's very very unlikely.

0.01% is actualy quite generous given that Thor had thousands of comics but only used such ability in like 20."

Again you're just playing a guessing game here. You can't actually prove this.
 
It means a lot, ******* with your opponent to the point of paralysis is like Wuxia martial art 101.

Copying entier styles after seeing them once, creating two styles instantly to counter a style after seeing it once, using pressure point, fighting multiple character who dwarfed him in raw power with skill, being said equal and then quickly superior to the best martial artist on earth back when he was a child with little to no experience, predicting a time stopper's movement (the time stopper could stop time longer than it took for Roshi and Krillin to start and finish their fight), casualy dodging an opponent's attack just from the air displacement of their movement, fighting with his eyes closed, having an almost perfect posture / guard, etc.

Goku has fought the same type of power Thor use multiple time, Thor has nothing new to Goku up his sleeve.

It's not playing a guessing game, it's litteraly one of the hax argued on the last thread hasn't been seen, mentionning or though of in 10 years, let alone actualy used.
 
First of all he was vastly stronger and it's just fear manipulation so it means nothing skill-wise.

"Copying entire styles" Goku has never done this. "Creating entire styles" When has Goku done this? "Fighting multiple characters who dwarfed him in raw power with skill" Goku gets fodderized by people stronger than him and most of the time they play with him. Raditz raped him and played with him, same with Freize, same with Cell, same with Buu, same with Beerus, Jiren any antagonist you can name who was stronger than Goku destroyed him and the only way Goku won was because of their supressions and overconfidence. Being the best martial artist on Earth doesn't mean much either.

"Goku has fought the same type of power Thor use multiple time, Thor has nothing new to Goku up his sleeve."

Ok but Thor still has the experience advantage. This is a different point.

"It's not a playing a guessing game, it's litteraly one of the hax argued on the last thread hasn't been seen, mentionning or though of in 10 years, let alone actualy used."

You are. You haven't and can't prove "he hasn't used this hax for ten years" and you won't.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
"He can paralyse Vegeta by just looking at him, his guard has no holes even from Goku's point of view and he can casualy blind side and attack holes in Goku's guard without using speed blitz."

First thing doesn't mean anything skill-wise. Ok? And Goku has what skill feats making this impressive?

"And Goku has fought everything Thor can do and more."

You seriously think Goku has fought the same type entities Thor has fought? Thor has 70 year history of comic books being released constantly every year whilst Goku has several hundred manga chapters give or take? Yeah, no.

"Not doing anything for 10 + years of your history out of 50 is still not using something for 1/10 of your totaly existence and that's not like Thor started his carreer with said hax, ask yourself how likely it is for a for a 50 year old man to suddenly use something he learned when he was 38 and hasn't used since he was 40, it's very very unlikely.

0.01% is actualy quite generous given that Thor had thousands of comics but only used such ability in like 20."

Again you're just playing a guessing game here. You can't actually prove this.
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Thor has more issues because marvel is bigger than dragon ball, it has nothing to do with their experience. goku has fought beings with a lot of experience, he fought Beerus who has millions of years of training from Whis, his abilities shocked him and he even called him a prodigy.
 
And again what's experience going to help with when Thor is literally outmatched in every other category?
 
He did using skill, Vegeta was paralysed by the massive skill gap, that's wuxia 101, fear manipulation done through skill still mean a lot skill wise.

Roshi said he could do it to any style except the drunk first due to not knowing what 'drunk was'

Against Roshi, to counter the drunken fist.

No, Goku clearly held his own despite massive power, speed and durability gap, him managing to corner Radditz twice is proof of that and heavily wounded Freezer despite a massive power gap does too.

Also that's ignoring that most if not all of those antagonist also have skill feats, Jiren litteraly attack by looking at things, that's how far he pushed his skills.

No, they didn't destroy him, Goku held his own a long ass time against all of them despite their own skills and the massive all around gap.

Being the best martial artist means a lot, obviously.

And you haven't addressed multiple of his other skill feats that i named.

He doesn't, Goku has left people millions of year of experience in the dust.

Obviously i can, you can look at it and there isn't a single apparition of that hax in 10 years, that's pretty easy to prove.
 
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It's not just experience. It's combat skill and hax he will resort to eventually.
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Hax is Ooc. Even Thor supporters agreed with this.

So if Ooc stuff is allowed then I can also say Goku goes SS3 and uses warp Kamehameha to one shot. In fact this seems far more likely.
 
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