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Maidens and Valkyrians: Kal's Bae vs Kal's Bae Killer

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This was inevitable....

I mean come on, anyone that knows Kal should have seen this coming from miles away, if you didn't, well do your research a bit more.

I'm not certain if speed should be equal as both scale to Mach 18 but if there's a speed scaling chain in favor of Cinder then let me know and I will equalize it, EDIT: Cinder scales above Tyrian who casually blitzed team RNJR, so I'm equalizing, fight in Naggiar Planes

The rest is SBA.

Selvaria Bles: 7

Cinder Fall:

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Cinder's advantages:

-Speed -> Faster than people who can keep up with Ruby who's as fast as Selvaria (I think? I'm 99% sure that Emerald kept up with Ruby while she performed the Mach 18 feat, but Emerald is still hypersonic for some reason)

-Versatility, although Cinder really only tends to spam fire manip and weapon creation so it's not a huge factor

-Combat skills, although Selvaria is not that far behind, she can somewhat keep up with people like Imca, who is faster than her on top of being one of the best soldiers in Gallia.

-Lifting strength, so she could overpower Selvaria when they cross blades (The fire blade thing that is, her obsidian weapons are going to be shattered). That's not something that either of them really does a lot, they mostly slash the opponent, but Cinder isn't stupid so she'd probably realize that after a while.

Selvaria's advantages:

-Probably AP -> Cinder scales from 286 kilotons, Selvy is >>> Aliasse who's >>> the Marmota which is >> the Lophius which has 167 kilotons durability feat

-Survivability -> Selvaria has decent regen unlike Cinder, and both of them have forcefields so Aura is moot

-Final Flame if it comes to that I guess, then again idk if she'd use it in the middle of a city without explicit orders of doing so

Idk. I could see this going either way, i'll think about it a bit more

Also It's Valkyrur, not Valkyrians
 
Emerald should be Hypersonic+ i have no idea why shes not

Also Cinder has three different forcefields
 
Yeah, her aura, the little personal forcefields she used to block Ruby's bullets and that Amber used to block attacks from Merc and Emerald, and the bubble shield she used against Raven
 
Fair enough regarding the forcefield in V3, but she wasn't really using any forcefield against Raven, she was simply in a sort of fire bubble, they were fighting each other just fine.

Don't think that it would harm Selvaria particularly badly, every Valkyria can use fire attacks and they can fight each other (as long as the stats are even obv)
 
@Kal

1. It rhymes better

2. Switching to a desert so Selvaria can use final flame
 
Tbf I don't think that her final flame would be a huge factor either way.

Cinder pretty much has to take Thanos' advice due to regen anyway, and if Selvy gets decapitated she won't be able to use it.

Although I guess it makes her more likely to use large scale attacks, so there is that
 
Kaltias said:
Cinder pretty much has to take Thanos' advice due to regen anyway
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Please tell me you finally watched it.

Also bump.
 
"If you didn't, do your research a bit more"

What kind of research are talking you talking about
 
Kal being a massive fan of Pyrrha and having a massive hate boner towards Cinder.

Him being a fan of Selvaria, though not his fav.
 
Honestly i'm inclined to say that Selvy wins via being a better waifu.

The stat advantage + regen means that Cinder will have a hard time killing her, plus a lance and shield > a sword.

Cinder has some advantages but I don't think they outweigh Selvaria's survivability
 
Kaltias said:
Honestly i'm inclined to say that Selvy wins via being a better waifu.

The stat advantage + regen means that Cinder will have a hard time killing her, plus a lance and shield > a sword.
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In fairness, Cinder does Duel Wield.
 
Not always but yeah, true. Forgot about that.

Granted her swords tend to break so they aren't exactly great to defend in CQC, so Selvaria's weapons are still more useful in this scenario
 
Her swords broke against an opponent with higher AP

her swords will not break in this fight as Cinder has the AP advantage
 
Cinder is 286 kt, Sel is 117 kt

Not sure where yall are getting that Sel has the AP advantage
 
That on top of Cinder's triple layer of forcefields, flight, and ability to range spam the hell out of Sel if she needs to and im voting solidly for Cinder
 
Sel has the AP because she scales way above the feat, I explained it above.

Cinder = Raven = 286 kt

Selvaria >>> Aliasse >>> Marmota >> Lophius = 167 kilotons.
 
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