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Snakeman Luffy Should be at least as fast as lightspeed if not faster

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so there is a feat that most of you will not accept it but this is a fact and should have been accepted because this site should be a fair site and not an unfair site.

so Oda stated that you need an observation Haki to keep up/fight Kizaru (lightspeed) and Katakuri is one of many of them.

so as you know Katakuri couldn't dodge most of Luffy's attacks in Snakeman.

I believe Snakeman Luffy should be at least as fast as lightspeed if not faster because even Katakrui future sight didn't dodge most of Luffy's attacks.

this is the website if you want to but ill make it easier for you .

Edit. ALso this one https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2313223

https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/11/07/vivre-card-databook-vol-3-all-the-new-information/

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what do you think of that I'm curious on this one.
 
Thing is this stuff has already been talked about and accepted we'll just implement it when we get to it
 
@Js250476.

ya I know but it has been months and still didn't do it,

also this should make snakeman luffy lightspeed if not faster.
 
But... Luffy only "blitzed" Katakuri when the latter didn't know about Snakeman's capacities and right after he realized it they kept Up with each other.

Luffy isn't blitzing. He just took Kata out of surprise.
 
Yes I know OP revisions are taking a while but we just gotta be patient we're close to getting there anyways

If things go well Snakeman will end up being Relativistic+ via scaling to Katakuri who scales from Marco who has a calced feat of intercepting Kizarus light at 57% lightspeed
 
@ Calaca Vs

katakuri was doing his best in dodging his attacks specially black momba but he still got hit while he is using his future sigh.
 
Snakeman's attacks are like Pseudo Danmaku. And don't forget that Luffy has Observation as well to counter Katakuri's "loldodge".

Going by your reasoning Katakuri and everyone comparable and superior should be FTL with no calc but an interpretation of the manga that I find wrong.
 
Kata only showm to dodge linear attack by luffy, he get hit cause he get surprised that how Luffy attack hit him, nothing more or less
 
Aerozz said:
@ Calaca Vs
katakuri was doing his best in dodging his attacks specially black momba but he still got hit while he is using his future sigh.
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That is due to Snakeman's ability to rapidly increase attack-speed the more his attack stretch and misses. So the longer that Luffy can stretch, the more faster his attack become. Snakeman should have this sort of explanation for his attack speed I feel.
 
I feel like we're arguing semantics tbh

Snakeman does scale to Kata and thus to Relativistic and that's what you can mainly give them
 
tbh ya in my honest opinion one piece top tiers should be FTL or at least as fast as lightspeed (this is an anime after all many others have FTL so this is not new) because as you see katakuri couldn't dodge most of luffy's attacks even with his op future sight.
 
Js250476 said:
Thing is we won't have FTL OP til someone is faster then Kizaru or outpaces his light form

Til then we just have the Relativistic feats
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I mean why not its Oda himself said that you need CoO to keep up/fight lightspeed and katakuri couldn't dodge most luffy's attacks in snakeman.

and FTL in anime is a normal thing many characters have those and wasn't impossible for them to dodge it
 
Keep word is kep up as in comparable or on par not necessarily faster

It's pretty simple Kizaru is lightspeed so to be FTL you gotta be faster than him which currently no one is
 
@ Js250476

in my honest opinion is that kizaru could be faster than lightspeed he may have a power up like how luffy did to G2 or others ,but this stated on if you fight someone in lightspeed you could dodge the attack but katakuri has this thing so he should dodge the lightspeed speed but when he fought snakeman luffy he couldn't dodge most of these attacks which should be at least lightspeed.
 
The image you've linked in the OP only says that people with very good Observation Haki are capable of spotting him.

That does not mean FTL / lightspeed reactions.
 
and those people are katakuri who couldn't dodge most of luffy's attack your point? and I said it should be as fast as light if not FTL
 
If Snakeman is relativistc+ and he can amp his speed passively, some time he will reach FTL speeds. But this not need be put in his profile.
 
well I would be fine by rev+ ,but Snakeman's ability to rapidly increase attack-speed the more his attacks stretch , So the longer Luffy can stretch ,the more faster his attack become.

all I wanted to do is to help the people here to make things clearer by facts and states and that's all it is :)
 
I'm just confused as to why people say characters can't be FTL in One Piece because of Kizaru. I don't think it was once stated that Kizaru is the absolute fastest or whatever. There should be no problem with Kizaru being outpaced by others, regardless of his DF or not.
 
The problem FullMetalLamps is nobody has been shown yet to outpace Kizaru when he's moving at lightspeed.
 
I mean some people dodged kizaru's attacks even the pacifitsa's laser should be as fast as kizaru's laser because X-drake clearly said its kizaru laser (lightspeed) which vegapunk whos the smartest guy in one piece who created many things dragens, cyborg and DF's and many other things why not he didn't do the laser that's really confusing me.
 
Well, I was referring to the fact that people say that it's impossible for characters like Rayleigh or Marco to be SOL/FTL when they intercepted lasers of literal light from Kizaru because "Kizaru is one of the fastest." I'm sure one or two people have said this in the past, along with many other forums.
 
I know right people are just assuming one piece characters cant do that (SOL/FTL) which is wrong because some people did it but its still not accepted for no reasons.

I mean many other anime characters did similar thing and they called it FTL+ and the main character is way weaker than most of characters in his series (I know the anime but I wont say the name so there wont be an argument) which I don't mind that but this should apply to one piece too.
 
Taking the Kizaru statement and trying to force it on Luffy is wank and reaching. Yes, Katakuri needed Haki to react to Luffy's attacks, but that's merely because Luffy's faster than him by a wide margin--not lightspeed.

Only Kizaru is Lightspeed, and you can only argue a select few being capable of reacting to and stopping his movement (Rayleigh and Whitebeard, who are both among the top tiers).

Stop accusing people of downplaying the entire verse when you're taking a quote and trying so hard to wank it so nonsensically.

Basically saying "People need Haki to react to Kizaru, therefore people use haki to react to Luffy--meaning he is LS... DERP!" Makes absolutely no sense.
 
@ CinCameron20

first im not a wanker but you are a downplayer.

give me a proof that kizaru is the fastest character in Op which he is not that doesn't mean people couldn't react to LS which they did.

Second, Marco was away from whitebeard and kizaru hits his Lightspeed attack and marco block it when he was away from whitebeard (first FTL if not + speed) even Rayleigh did it

Third, Oda himself said kizaru is lightspeed (in everything) and he said you need an CoO to keep up with them (Lightspeed) and katakuri who has an Op CoO couldn't react to most luffy's attacks in G4 Snakeman.

Forth, even Kuma Has a lightspeed attacks which is a huge proof, also Pacifsta have lightspeed attacks lasers you/this site don't want to put this proof for no reasons, this is why this called a huge downplay hope you got your answer and you may answer some of these.

calling people wankers even if they put facts, that means your are a huge downplayed who ignore the fact that people in one piece are FTL, your just changing facts from your mind for no reasons (its like changing the anime like really?) that's all.
 
even if he is a op supporters like you Damage still have his mind on downplaying and ignore many facts I need these answers now because you clearly cant answer them but you will ignore them as always.
 
Aerozz have you ever stopped and think for a second that maybe there not ignoring any facts but are simply refuting your points and why there illogical
 
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