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Zeref vs Zeldris (Best Villains Battle)

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TranscendHunger said:
He nullified all his abilities including the time hax. Drole couldn't do anything.
He nullified his magic. The time hax is a spell that has to be activated with magic. Let me put it this way. If Merlin is just sitting around doing nothing, and then Zeldris showed up and sealed her magic, does that mean he nullified her time stop? No, because time was not stopped and she has to stop time for it to be stopped. No magic = The hax can't be used, not the hax was nullified.
 
No, he nullified his magic which is what is used to do his abilities. That time spell requires activation. Nullifying his magic while the time spell is not active doesn't do anything to the time spell.
 
Yes, they're magic but using them requires the ability to use magic. Without magic, the moves do not work. Think of it as there being a vault. Inside the vault are the spells. The key to open the door is magic. Zeldris stole the key and now the spells can't be taken out of the vault.
 
His magic and his magic spells are 2 different things. You can have magic without spells, everyone starts at one point. When you run out of magic, then you can't use your magic spells. Zeldris's sealing is the same thing as making Drole being constantly out of magic.
 
No that's not how it works. His magic is what transports them to the alternate reality. He literally has to bring the magic out and blast it at whoever he wants to teleport. Which he cannot do because his magic is nullified.
 
The blasting is what does it. It's not like all of his spells do the same thing. Zeldris didn't wait for Drole to use each spell and seal it one at a time, he just sealed the source.
 
No, his magic is nullified so he can't use his abilities.

That's different from the abilities being nullified, then he would still have his magic, he just wouldn't be able to do any spells.
 
Thing is his abilities are magic. Which means they are also nullfied. His magic is nullified. His abilities are magic.

Can anyone tell me. What's so hard to understand about this.
 
Activation. You can't nullify something that isn't there. Let's say Ludoshel made an Ark Sphere. If Zeldris seals that Ark Sphere, then it disappears. Ludoshel has not lost his magic or his ability to use Ark Sphere. Now let's say Zeldris sealed Ludoshel directly, then Ludoshel has his magic sealed and can't use Ark Sphere. In the second scenario, his Ark Sphere wasn't nullified because there is no Ark Sphere. Only his magic is nullified which is what is used to make Ark Spheres.
 
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