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Final NNT Thread - Part 1

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  • Tarmiel makes an ocean. 1 teraton.
  • Tarmiel's true form is well over 2x stronger due to Ludoshel's true form being 2x stronger than his vessel, despite having a vastly more compatible vessel than Tarmiel and Sariel's. >2 teratons.
  • Margaret Ludoshel scales above true Tarmiel due to his power level. >>2 teratons.
  • True Form Ludoshel, while weakened, casually stomped OG Demon whereas vessel Ludoshel couldn't do all that much damage to Chandler and Cusack. This also applies to 2nd Mark Zeldris for having the same multiplier and being similar in strength previously. >>>4 teratons.
  • Mael one-shot OG Demon. >>>>4 teratons.
  • DK Zel scales above Mael. >>>>>4 teratons.
  • Base Meliodas easily overpowered DK Zel. >>>>>>4 teratons.
  • 2nd Mark Meliodas is 4x stronger. >>>>>>16 teratons.
  • 50% DK overpowered Ban. >>>>>>>16 teratons.
  • 100% DK is twice as strong. >>>>>>>32 teratons.
  • Youth DK Zeldris is stronger than 100%. >>>>>>>>32 teratons.
There's some new stuff I have to add, so keep in mind this isn't the full list.
 
ByAsura said:
  • Tarmiel makes an ocean. 1 teraton.
  • Tarmiel's true form is well over 2x stronger due to Ludoshel's true form being 2x stronger than his vessel, despite having a vastly more compatible vessel than Tarmiel and Sariel's. >2 teratons.
  • Margaret Ludoshel scales above true Tarmiel due to his power level. >>2 teratons.
  • True Form Ludoshel, while weakened, casually stomped OG Demon whereas vessel Ludoshel couldn't do all that much damage to Chandler and Cusack. This also applies to 2nd Mark Zeldris for having the same multiplier and being similar in strength previously. >>>4 teratons.
  • Mael one-shot OG Demon. >>>>4 teratons.
  • DK Zel scales above Mael. >>>>>4 teratons.
  • Base Meliodas easily overpowered DK Zel. >>>>>>4 teratons.
  • 2nd Mark Meliodas is 4x stronger. >>>>>>16 teratons.
  • 50% DK overpowered Ban. >>>>>>>16 teratons.
  • 100% DK is twice as strong. >>>>>>>32 teratons.
  • Youth DK Zeldris is stronger than 100%. >>>>>>>>32 teratons.
There's some new stuff I have to add, so keep in mind this isn't the full list.
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The new stuff? Did you include SD tanking her FC attack?
 
Doesn't play a part in AP scaling, especially since Meliodas and Zeldris' attack was doubled by Merlin.
 
No it doesn't. We don't have a reason to consider it non-canon.

In fact, I specifically remember you wanting to apply this Infinity amp to other characters after we found it, as well as the Sky Islands having huge mountains on them.
Halkum145 said:
What is the latest status? is there an upgrade or a downgrade?
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Bit of both.
 
ByAsura said:
No it doesn't. We don't have a reason to consider it non-canon.

In fact, I specifically remember you wanting to apply this Infinity amp to other characters after we found it, as well as the Sky Islands having huge mountains on them.

Bit of both.
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It wasn't stated to be canon the movie was simple. Yes but you said it doesn't amp 2x for some reason
 
Country level, likely Large Country level for Britannia DK. And there's a huge combo attack that The Lady of the Lake scales to.

MHS+ to FTL.
speedster352 said:
It wasn't stated to be canon the movie was simple. Yes but you said it doesn't amp 2x for some reason
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Not a reason to disregard.

Because it wasn't even Infinity. It was Merlin's limit breaker.
 
ByAsura said:
Country level, likely Large Country level for Britannia DK. And there's a huge combo attack that The Lady of the Lake scales to.

MHS+ to FTL.

Not a reason to disregard.

Because it wasn't even Infinity. It was Merlin's limit breaker.
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Proof that it's canon?
 
Why would I need scans for either of those? You do know what a novelization is, right?

Like I said, the wiki accepts this stuff as secondary canon unless there's a reason not to.
 
ByAsura said:
Why would I need scans for either of those? You do know what a novelization is, right?

Like I said, the wiki accepts this stuff as secondary canon unless there's a reason not to.
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The burden of proof is on you. Prove that it is canon. I want you to prove it
 
No, it's on you to give us even the remotest reason why this officially licensed novelization should not be considered canon.
 
Doesn't work like that, and the wiki still accepts novelizations as secondary canon unless contradictory or explicitly/implicitly non-canon (i.e the Naruto one).
 
It takes precedence when contradictions arise. This is not a contradiction.
 
That doesn't mean it's a contradiction. It's a contradiction if it contradicts established information in ways that can't be reconciled.

By this logic, Lady of the Lake telling them that Merlin delayed the time spell is a contradiction because we didn't see it happen in the chapter.
 
ByAsura said:
That doesn't mean it's a contradiction. It's a contradiction if it contradicts established information in ways that can't be reconciled.

By this logic, Lady of the Lake telling them that Merlin delayed the time spell is a contradiction because we didn't see it happen in the chapter.
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That does mean it's a contradiction
A contradiction is a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.
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