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Zeref Dragneel vs Narutoverse

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I.T needs prep time and it has conditions that need to be met like it being a full moon or something iirc. So it probably can't be used.

Bone killing ash bones, Amaterasu and such attacks can be countered by time rewind and undoing the affect. I don't think Izanagi and Izanami would be of much use here. Zeref has resistance to soul manipulation iirc.

Planet level attacks don't matter either. Edo could be annoying but Mard Geer can erase them. Zeref can also make a huge army of demons with his nemesis spell.
 
None besides Edo can probably resist death manipulation. His AP is 12 Exa-tons. Besides God Tiers, I don't think anyone else scales to that in Narutoverse.

He is also Sub-Rel and they need soul erasure Hax to erase him. He can teleport from a normal chibaku tensei.

He can undo the seal of six paths chibaku tensei by reversing time even if Naruto and sauce catch him off guard, pull it off.

There's really no way besides BFR to stop him if he's on a rampage. He can also probably undo any sealing jutsu with his time reversal.
 
Don't god tiers all get death haxed? In a speed equal, I swear Itachi is actually the most useful guy in the verse because genjutsu is the only way for them to beat Zeref before he haxes. Everything else fails epically.
 
The Edo Tensei guys pretty cannot do anything to him either due to Zeref being too fast and too durable for them. Sealing and Genjutsu ain't gonna work because of time reversal.

Although if he can summons his demon creation, Zeref can just have Mard Geer to unleash Memento Mori on them.
 
Wait how would Time Reversal counter Genjustsu?

You can't use your mind to reverse if you're mindhaxed
 
I imagine it depends on the level of mind hax, Zeref was a disembodied consciousness when he reversed time, all he likely needs is to be conscious in any capacity.

Meaning stuff doesn't shut down his mind immediately and completely won't be completely effective, most genjutsu from my memory don't cause a complete mental shutdown so they won't stop him for long.

Plus he kinda just blitz's them to hell and back
 
Genjutsu is more of an illusion creation than an actual mindhax right? Pretty sure Zeref can just will time to reverse back should he aware that he was in an illusion.

Unless IT of course.
 
something like itachi sasuke shisui etc uses a genjutsu to make him think hes stomping but in reality hes hit by a totsuka blade, turned to ashe,s particle styled or vaporized with a etso?

does he have dimmensional travel? because kaguya obito and kakashi can all bfr
 
Disembodied consciousness has nothing to do with mind resistance, that's a matter of what state you can be in to use it.

You don't have to mentally shut him down, saying "Go away" or any standard mind control can do that normally.
 
Beast Zero Gudako said:
Genjutsu is more of an illusion creation than an actual mindhax right? Pretty sure Zeref can just will time to reverse back should he aware that he was in an illusion.
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No, Genjutsu can do a lot of things, one of them is pass out the target and immobilize him
 
Beast Zero Gudako said:
Genjutsu is more of an illusion creation than an actual mindhax right? Pretty sure Zeref can just will time to reverse back should he aware that he was in an illusion.
Unless IT of course.
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illusion creation is one of the easier things it does, it can mind control you paralyze you put you to sleep fear manip etc
 
Beast Zero Gudako said:
Genjutsu is more of an illusion creation than an actual mindhax right? Pretty sure Zeref can just will time to reverse back should he aware that he was in an illusion.

Unless IT of course.
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He wouldn't be aware unless he resisted it, that's the thing

It's like being aware you're in a dream.
 
Same, but that's an extremely rare occurrence, and they usually end right after

Though Genjustsu is significantly worse then that
 
Schnee One said:
Beast Zero Gudako said:
Genjutsu is more of an illusion creation than an actual mindhax right? Pretty sure Zeref can just will time to reverse back should he aware that he was in an illusion.

Unless IT of course.
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He wouldn't be aware unless he resisted it, that's the thing
It's like being aware you're in a dream.
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Fair enough
 
I'm like 99% Mard gets stomped before he can use MM. Genjutsu from Itachi and characters above should be able to take care of Zeref, if they have BFR then that could also work. But aside from that Zeref is a lot stronger, faster and more haxxed them the verse here
 
Sooo it's what like 50/50? He either blitz's a good portion of them to hell and back while one touch killing them or they manage to catch him in a genjutsu?
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Don't god tiers all get death haxed? In a speed equal, I swear Itachi is actually the most useful guy in the verse because genjutsu is the only way for them to beat Zeref before he haxes. Everything else fails epically.
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No. God tier don't get death handed cause they are too strong for that (ex: Acno > Zeref). Genjutsu and sealing yes is the only way to beat Zeref since he's immortal
 
This is a verse fight man. Urashiki fights from behind scenes. Zerf will not even see him because he will be watching from a different dimension
 
Schnee One said:
Do Urashiki comes out to fight him

Zeref blitzes and points

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Huh? Urashiki doesn't have to come out. Urashiki can literally time travel decades back. He doesn't need to touch Zerf he just travels by himself to when Zerf is weaker.
 
Zeref was always High 6A for hundreds of years, decades means nothing

And he has no knowledge of where Zeref came from so

Zeref lelblitzes and points
 
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