White Winged Wraiths: Zeref Dragneel vs Rensa

[DragonEmperor23]

>"The strongest version being defined as the one with the highest tier."

 

[Schnee_One]

Tier alone doesn't determine strength

It's like saying FDKM Natsu and END Natsu are equal in strength

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I think it means by physical strength when it says that as that is what gives you your tier. FDKM Natsu is 6-A and END Natsu is 6-C tho, that's different tiers. For Rensa, she doesn't become physically stronger with a different brain and has the same tier. 28 Rensa and 29 Rensa are both High 6-A so since 29 Rensa is more recent, that's what's used.

 

[Schnee_One]

She actually does

28 has High 6A Durability

And I meant the two High 6C tiers but this is pointless derailing really.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

So Rensa 29 has the Ap but not the dura?

 

[Schnee_One]

Nope

Only 28 has Access to White Wings

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I'm a little confused here. So the White Wings have High 6-A dura but 6-C AP? I don't know how characters with multiple tiers and different AP/Duras effect the character version thing.

 

[Malox1696]

both 29 and 28 have acces to wings

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I don't think the Wings matter for who has more attack power because the High 6-A comes from borrowing the earth's energy and not the wings.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Renal FRA

 

[Malox1696]

I don't think the Wings matter for who has more attack power because the High 6-A comes from borrowing the earth's energy and not the wings.

anyway both have same ap and dura is just their startegy that changes, 29 was the latest user of the body (now destoyed) but all the 40 hypotalamus are safe in a freezer, 28 is the genral user as it more suited for her job

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm a little confused here. So the White Wings have High 6-A dura but 6-C AP? I don't know how characters with multiple tiers and different AP/Duras effect the character version thing.

The Black Wings give High 6C AP, but 9B Dura.

White Wings get High 6C AP but High 6A Durability

Every version has High 6A shields (Maximum downplay)

 

[DragonEmperor23]

anyway both have same ap and dura is just their startegy that changes, 29 was the latest user of the body (now destoyed) but all the 40 hypotalamus are safe in a freezer, 28 is the genral user as it more suited for her job

Okay, thank you for clearing this up. @Schnee, so they are the same amount of strength which means that Rensa 29 being the most recent version is the one that's used.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Alright so, Rensa starts with The Accelerator and Zeref has FH. I'm almost certain Zeref never uses his time stop in combat and I agree with the above that it definitely wouldn't be the go to when he has Fairy Heart. Also iirc Zeref's death manipulation spreads like a field or a mist so it has directional vectors that Rensa could manipulate. Rensa however can't kill him due to his immortality and time reversal. So like Demise was saying she would have to switch her output point to Mental Out to incapacitate which would take barley a second. I think it would be more likely than Zeref resorting to time stop in battle against someone who has proven unable to bypass his immortality hax and harm him in any meaningful way.

Does your vote change now that it's been clarified it's Rensa 29?

 

[Schnee_One]

That guy didn't say it was model 28

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yeah but the way he explained Rensa would act fit how Mal explained 28's personality so I'm asking if he assumed it was 28 in a roundabout way.

 

[Malox1696]

for 29 my vote goes for zeref, for 28 my vote goes for rensa

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm heavily considering having someone remake this or me remaking since it's 2-2 and over 100 posts

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Almost I forgot about this thread ... and Zeref FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

I was actually gonna ask if you could remake it?

It's gone practically nowhere for almost 150 posts

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I mean, the arguing part is pretty much over. You could try just asking for FRAs

 

[Schnee_One]

I did 3 times

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Oof

Just pull a Velox and use D E T E R M I N A T I O N

 

[Schnee_One]

Okay but if this keeps going this shit is getting remade

 

[DragonEmperor23]

[thumbs up emoji]

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oof
Just pull a Velox and use D E T E R M I N A T I O N

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Its a compliment ovo

 

[Schnee_One]

Bumpesse

 

[Schnee_One]

Bumpettle

This is really not going anywhere and I already asked on DMUAs vote shop, so if someone else wants to keep bumping, have at it

 

[BiriBiriDarkMatterLevel5]

Rensa has both Kakine's and BiriBiri's powers at her disposal so she automatically wins. She loses big time if she tries to lose Accelerator's piss poor ability though.