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What I meant by Speed Force shenanigans. Of course, anyone with MHS+ reaction and combat speed and above would be eroding the battleground with the gusts they should be forming.
 
Poison's not going to work in rounds 2 and 3.

Yeah, I know I was just saying Flash was a bad example of this as there's an in universe reason why that doesn't happen.
 
well, i guess i gave all the reasons for round 1 then. as for round 2, sasuke can burn him with amaterasu. as for round 3.... hm yeah, no way around it i guess.
 
I have to disagree about poison not mattering. They don't need to throw it as a straightforward cloud but all around him, and even if he breaks out a moment of distraction using Shadow Stitch, Genjutsu, whatever the heck you want is all that should be needed. This is if we believe the poison affects him, but eh.
 
Black was effected by tear gas. Goku nearly died from a heart virus. Gohan struggled badly against Lavender (somebody who incorporates poison into his fighting style). There would also be Frost who actively uses poison needles in his fighting style against Goku, Piccolo and attempted it against Hit. There is overall more evidence supporting poison effecting saiyans than there is against.

Hell, I don't seem to recall Dragon Ball characters ever displaying any internal durability feats, it's always external. Somebody like Hanzo could just walk up to Vegeta and exhale right up in his face. It would be harder but just as plausible for a Vegeta equalised to Naruto and Sasuke to be killed by this as well.

I don't know how long it would take for an unequalised Vegeta but I am confident that the ENTIRE bloodlusted Naruto world could figure out a way to kill a full speed Vegeta. The question is more of a matter of how. Sealing, Kamui, Hirashin, Shadow Clones...I'm sure that something could be worked out. Not sure if they could do it in just twenty-four hours though.
 
Finding some way of luring him or confining him would be best. Vegeta will be a good bit faster and yadda yadda yadda, but it's not like he'll be covering half the Earth's distance to get away. Leading him into a trap or distracting him while preparing something are viable options.

There's seals, genjutsu and other stuff to abuse as well. Unless he resists any of it completely, it can give them a split second at worst and that could be enough to nail him into one place.
 
Like I said, he resists mind manipulation, so genjutsu isn't going to work, completely. Vegeta's also too physically powerful for the Nara Clan's Shadow Paralysis to mean much.

However, it should be noted that Vegeta is only resistant to poison when he's using his barrier. Otherwise it affects him just like anything else. The question is, in Round 3, are any of the Narutoverse's poison techniques going to be able to reach him if he just keeps high in the air? I suppose you could claim assistance (e.g. Sasuke using his Susano'o to transport a poison user), but even then, he severely outspeeds them. Before they could even move, he'd already be out of range.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Vegita's resisitance is *****. It is not going top work against even the worst genjutsu users.
I highly doubt that. Babidi's mind manip is at least equal to high-tier genjutsu users, who can completely dominate the personality and actions of their victims, and Vegeta was never truly in Babidi's control to begin with.
 
No. Genujutsu that even sakura as a 12 year old twerp could counter affects people in the hundreds. And pretty sure Babidi only amplifies the evil in people while mind haxing.
 
In Round 3 a flying Vegeta is definitely an issue. The only characters that would be able to reach him are Onoki (and IIRC some other Iwa ninja) and Naruto. They are the only characters capable of flight outside of stuff like Sasuke's winged Susanoo.

In Round 3 I would say it would be left entirely to Naruto to actually tag Vegeta with something, presumably their plan would involve a mixture of the Hiraishin, Kamui and Sealing in-order to trap Vegeta then tag him with a Hiraishin seal then Minato would teleport in with a seal to try and lock him in place after this they could try all sorts of combinations but the one that MAY prove most powerful is the Shiki Fuuin seal.

This strategy of leading into a Shiki Fuuin does have the flaw that its power is based on the user's own lifeforce and it may be possible that no person on earth would have the lifeforce required to seal a being as powerful as Vegeta. Even so, Naruto (who would have the greatest lifeforce in history, potentially surpassing even Hashirama) could use the Shiki Fuuin to seal Vegeta inside of himself then commit suicide to kill Vegeta. Minato used this technique to split the Kyuubi's chakra in half then seal the Yin half inside of himself before death when the Kyuubi should, by all means, be far more powerful than he is.

With this fact in mind, somebody with a lifeforce so much greater than Minato such as Naruto should be capable of sealing a far, FAR more powerful being than the Kyuubi. Even so, Vegeta is a low-multiverse level being so it's difficult to quantify if Naruto would have the lifeforce required to seal Vegeta's soul.

Summary


1. Naruto tags Vegeta with Hiraishin seal (which he may be capable of considering his own prodigious sealing abilities)

2. Minato teleports Vegeta into a Kamui to seal him and Vegeta in the Kamui dimension

3. Kakashi and Obito send Naruto to the Kamui dimension

4. Naruto (with the aid of seals, teleportation and potentially other hax) corners Vegeta long enough to perform the Shiki Fuuin

5. Now it's up to whether or not Naruto's lifeforce is enough to contain something as powerful as Vegeta

Sasuke has his own teleportation hax which could help a LOT with team synergy in trapping and killing Vegeta and there is plenty of other strategies that could work with other shinobi. This is just the one that came to mind.
 
They are the only characters capable of flight outside of stuff like Sasuke's winged Susanoo.

Madara and kaguya and otsotsuki are a thing...
 
In full honesty I forgot about them. It's hard to remember when Kaguya was pretty bland and Madara barely even showed off flight to my memory. I imagine their abilities wouldn't be too useful unless Kaguya can just nuke one of her dimensions then warp Vegeta into the aftermath. I don't really remember much about their abilities though so maybe they have some other hax of note.
 
They could do that. But then it's up to the question of whether or not Vegeta would even be effected by it seeing as he is moving to actively avoid death. Even then if he is trapped would he be weakened enough to die? Perhaps with poison, shoving something down his throat or even just teleporting him in a vacuum. Logically speaking, nothing is stopping Vegeta from just...'moving' through the moon, god tree or whoever is casting the technique. The mere act of him going through something or somebody would likely stop it.
 
It is a planet wide aoe mindhax...

And if he is caught his cells would be changed into zetsu cells, or others would just throw a tsb at him.

Plus, he is only dodging, so Madara could cast it personally.

Or just use normal genjustu
 
LSirLancelotDuLacl said:
I have to disagree about poison not mattering. They don't need to throw it as a straightforward cloud but all around him, and even if he breaks out a moment of distraction using Shadow Stitch, Genjutsu, whatever the heck you want is all that should be needed. This is if we believe the poison affects him, but eh.

I doubt there being anyone fast enough to tag Sasuke or Naruto that uses poison.
 
That kinda doesn't help when there is planet wide hax, and going anywhere else will get him to eventualy suffocate.
 
No definitive proof, but IT works with light mindhaxing people, and the moon is full of it. Alternativly, they destroy the moon and force him on the planet..

The moon has a pocket reality kinda thing where stuff is breathable, yeah.
 
No. She uses it on the planet. You know she put planet erath under IT too before the moon was a thing, yeah?

He either leaves the planet and eventually suffocates, stays and gets mindhaxed or gets into the pocket dimenion, gets bfr'd and kaguya pulls out the ETSB
 
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