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"Varied 5C/5B to 4B" for the Sentry (Marvel).
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Hyperion, definitely 5-A. Blue Marvel... I am not sure 100% since I cannot remember how his story in Ultimates went. But from a bit I can remember, 5A seems more fitting
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Okay, so I finished the timeline for the three relevant Hyperions to this discussion. Hyperion 616, 712 and King Hyperion scales to one another, and who then scales to normal Thor on Earth. So, yes, they should be downgraded to 5A alongside Blue Marvel and Anti-Man. The blog link here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Confluctor/Hyperion(s)_feat_timeline
Also, Hyperion 13034 (the Avengers one) should get 5A to 4B tier since he scales to normal Thor and Blue Marvel usually, but at full power, can be higher. But I will compile his feats sometime this week.
Also, Hyperion 13034 (the Avengers one) should get 5A to 4B tier since he scales to normal Thor and Blue Marvel usually, but at full power, can be higher. But I will compile his feats sometime this week.
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Okay. I am uncertain about Anti-Man, since he is stated to be so extremely powerful, including by Thanos.
@The_Impress
What do you think?
@The_Impress
What do you think?
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I see, I cannot recall his Ultimates stuff, so I should really reread that one of these days
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Anti-Man and Blue Marvel are blatant 4-Bs, stripping that rating isn’t good from them
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Not sure about Anti Man, but Blue Marvel has been harmed by T5 characters before. In Squadron Supreme (2015), he was equally matched with 13034 Hyperion - who I am going to revise soon to give him a 5A to 4B tier. Also King Hyperion, who is definitely not 4B, was equal, if not more powerful.
Giving him a 5A to 4B rating seems fine to Blue Marvel.
Giving him a 5A to 4B rating seems fine to Blue Marvel.
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Which was based off fighting Sentry, who would have been weakened just by coming into contact with Anti-Man, a living mass of anti-matter and literally called a bridge to the Negative Zone. And later, Sentry would have been operating within ever increasing storms of anti-matter, which would have affected him as well.
I mean, if they got more feats, I'd loved to here them but based upon current evidence, their original scaling seems suspect.
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Than you for helping out Impress.
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Bump
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I think Omegon makes the most sense. Still not quite sure about Anti-Man, but the other two definitely needs to be brought down to 5A, especially King Hyperion.
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Looking at the comics again, Sentry comments that he's never encountered anyone as powerful as Anti-Man. Now, while it's true that Sentry would have likely been weakened just by coming close to Anti-Man, their engagement was very brief and this isn't like dumping Sentry into the N-Zone, where he's surrounded by nothing but Anti-Matter. So, Sentry could have experienced little loss in power due to relatively small amount of Anti-Matter he was exposed plus, the sheer briefness of the fight. Anti-Man overpowered Sentry immediately upon engaging him in 3 moves.
Based upon that we could do this for the scalings:
- Anti-Man: At least 5-A (Easily defeated a team of Avengers consisting of Ares, Wonder Man, She-Hulk), Possibly 4-B (Easily overpowered Sentry, who stated he'd never encountered someone so powerful)
- Blue Marvel: At least 5-A (Statedby Namor to be hit as hard than Hulk and Thor, Comparable to Anti-Man and has defeated him in the past), Possibly 4-B
- King Hyperion: At least 5-A (Somewhat superior to Blue Marvel and capable of beating down Juggernaut), Possibly 4-B
We'll need a note to explain Anti-Man's scaling and situation a little more but I believe this could work.
Based upon that we could do this for the scalings:
- Anti-Man: At least 5-A (Easily defeated a team of Avengers consisting of Ares, Wonder Man, She-Hulk), Possibly 4-B (Easily overpowered Sentry, who stated he'd never encountered someone so powerful)
- Blue Marvel: At least 5-A (Statedby Namor to be hit as hard than Hulk and Thor, Comparable to Anti-Man and has defeated him in the past), Possibly 4-B
- King Hyperion: At least 5-A (Somewhat superior to Blue Marvel and capable of beating down Juggernaut), Possibly 4-B
We'll need a note to explain Anti-Man's scaling and situation a little more but I believe this could work.
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has this been applied yet? Or should I do it?
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@Zensum @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @Sandman31 @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @LuciferDC099 @Newendigo @Ehnkr2beboh @Tllmbrg @Deagonx @Elizio33 @LordTracer @The_Impress
What do you think about this?
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C2’s suggestion seems fine, but Sentry isn’t my strong suit so I can’t be much help here.
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I asked if these are acceptable suggestions.
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Yeah, it just some stuff weren't added to profiles yet
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I don't see why it needs to be dragged on ngl. The evidence is pretty straightforward.
And it's more consistent with every other herald tier at Marvel.
And it's more consistent with every other herald tier at Marvel.
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A few characters scale from Sentry, so they should be brought down to 5A and possibly 4B. Their current rating is pretty inconsistent and exaggerated.
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Yeah it makes the most sense.
5A, possibly 4B for all three.
5A, possibly 4B for all three.
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Alright.
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Possibly should be likely, otherwise the reasonings are fine.
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@Zensum @Eficiente @SuperAPM @Firestorm808 @EmperorRorepme @Ehnkr2beboh @Tllmbrg @Deagonx @Elizio33 @LordTracer @The_Impress
Are the above suggestions acceptable to you?
Are the above suggestions acceptable to you?
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Seems fine to me.
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I think it looks fine.
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So this then?
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Yes.
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