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The Sentry tries to rip apart a different Ares
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Mind Hax resistance is tier 1 level
Soul hax resistance is at least 2a level. Technically it should be way higher, but I doubt the wiki will accept that scaling for celestials and Norse afterlife. (Despite being quite apparent)
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The Form is the conceptual part, unfortunately it's a personal concept, Type 3.
Vector Hax actually.
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I got that much. But marvel souls are different. So, idk how that would work here.
I am confused. So, is it physically controlling their movement?
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Yup
Because of the Celestial thing?
IIRC that was a dead Celestial, so not sure about the validity of that.
I mean, the Celestials are gonna be High 1-B soon.
Not sure what's up with the Norse Afterlife you're talking about...
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Yes
Doesn't matter. he was one of the strongest celestials. On top of that, he is literally the afterlife plane itself around that time
******* finally. Hopefully for the true forms ofc
Wym?
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Ok then.
For their base/universal forms, yes.
All the abstracts are getting massive upgrades.
Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 1 of ???) (STAFF ONLY)
Right, so, at the moment the profiles for the Marvel Comics Abstracts are all quite bad, and in pretty dire need to repairs. Not only in terms of tiering, but also of... everything, really. This thread will be Part 1 of an attempt at overhauling them. Beginning from the top (The tiers). About...
Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 2 of ????)
Hi all. Glad to see you all here after the previous thread. As the title suggests, this is a continuation of my ongoing revisions of Marvel's Cosmics, this time tackling the tiering of the Omniversal Abstracts. After this one, I plan to make a Part 2.5, which will deal with fixing... everything...
Here is the new profile for the Celestials once the upgrades end: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ultima_Reality/Celestials
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Something like that but the others don't tell me shit on how Vector hax works in general.
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Just read Accelerator's profile
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Soul, mind and personal concept are destroyed by soul-destroying magic in God of War. And scaling on the same dimensionality no longer follows the size of the affected area for personal based hax like mind, soul, etc. It's just 4-D with varying layers to it.
It's basically what decides where you go after you die (In the Norse land's case, either The Light, Hel or Valhalla). Without it, someone who was initially brought back to life once died and basically ceased to exist.
Ares can basically take away his opponents powers and use them for himself. This worked on Kratos, who already resisted having his powers and magic nullified.
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Didn't work out for the last person who took it. Super adaptoid. Mindhax goes brr
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His mind-hax is Tier 1 rn? Then that's an issue. How quickly does he pull it out?
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Marvel mind-hax chainscales to Doctor Strange, who mind-haxxed Umar, a Low 1-C being with HDE.
Sentry even resisted Doctor Strange despite his mind fighting himself from the looks of the scan.
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How good Is Super Adaptoid Power Absorption?
Cuz Ares' shit is layered, and with Powernull, he has numerous ways to neg Sentry's powers.
Applying the Lightning of Zeus to his weapons and literally any random ass basic hit will powernull. Zeus' Fury and Army of Hades are the most powerful in this field
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Should be instantaneous in this key. Not in a passive manner, mind you. But pretty much instantenous.
Btw it's not just mind Hax, it's also madness Hax. Which has the same level of dimensionality due to mechanism
He only used it against being power vored. But voids first attacks are regularly mind and emotion based.
Really good is all I can say lol. But it's the practice of what happens when powers gets copied that matters
Sentry and void come in a package. I recommend sentry vol.2 8 for more info
How does power null works? What part of it actually gets nulled? All powers completely or the abilities?
If former, I think you need to remember he is fighting a manifestation and not the real holder of the power. True holder of the power is nowhere to be seen.
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Lightning of Zeus prevents one from accessing powers, Zeus fury lightning is that on steroids, and Army of Hades Is a wave of souls that strip all your powers away, this happened to a Kratos who already had a layered Powernull resistance.
Or Ares could just Telekinetically hold you in place, and steal all your shit for himself, which given the LS gap, is always an option
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Both. Not only does it strip you of the powers you had, it also prevents you from accessing any means possible to use them in the first place, like BEASTHEART880 said. Meaning, if the true holder of the power was giving you stuff, your connection is now cut off and you can no longer access it.
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Aren't GoW powers magical or divine in nature? So that's why they are being nullified no?
How would that apply to beings whose power is matter manip and rest is basically a matter of skill?
And just confused about something, so wondering what the site standard for something like this is. he can't really kill Void since Robert can just spawn him again. My understanding of GoW concept destruction is mind and emotion and only conceptual due to verse mechanism. So that wouldn't work here since souls work differently?
How would that apply to beings whose power is matter manip and rest is basically a matter of skill?
And just confused about something, so wondering what the site standard for something like this is. he can't really kill Void since Robert can just spawn him again. My understanding of GoW concept destruction is mind and emotion and only conceptual due to verse mechanism. So that wouldn't work here since souls work differently?
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I think concept manip and EE is some of the wincons that Ares has depending on how he starts
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Ares doesn't have EE tho?
Also from what I'm reading Sentry's resistances are gonna go straight into Tier 2 and Tier 1 territory, plus he might eventually be 2-A (Assuming Ultima finally succeeds and gives us what we deserve), making this entire fight a stomp in favor of Sentry, so...
Also from what I'm reading Sentry's resistances are gonna go straight into Tier 2 and Tier 1 territory, plus he might eventually be 2-A (Assuming Ultima finally succeeds and gives us what we deserve), making this entire fight a stomp in favor of Sentry, so...
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But Poseidon's rage is a wincon, as I'm not sure Sentry resists conceptual destruction
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Herald bullshit.
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scaling from GOM Strange and GOS Loki, Genis Vell, along with DR Strange/Clea scaling and statements
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oh I thought he did from somewhere, but i see, has ares then regen negged someone whos high(approaching low godlyish, but ill say high)
LMAO oooooooooooof
Sentry should be tier 0 imo
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sentry has never had to face conceptual destruction, so I would probably say he doesnt resist it, but this is merged Sentry, who also has voids powers and depending on how he fights, he could win before ares gets to use poseidons rage
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I'm not sure how relevant this could be, but even dr strange didn't know how to kill off the sentry
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broooooooooootal
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at least daredevils gf met a better end compared to what happened to sentry in KiB
Interesting idea but if we tier 0 Daredevil's girlfriends maybe bullseye can stop killing them
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I'm sorry y'all, I didn't know that this was the Marvel Revisions Thread 
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Why do we no longer do that?
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