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In order of importance
1. The recently added 3-C and 2-C stats (mostly shown as "3-C normally, 2-C at peak") are completely nonsensical in application as explained here and here, they will be replaced with "3-C, possibly 2-C". Needless to say (unless you forgot how this much of how the wiki works), that makes it 1 state for others to scale to rather than 2, meaning that profiles like Odin being 3-C alone at his weakest will be "3-C, possibly 2-C" and Galactus also being 2-C alone at his weakest will be "3-C, possibly 2-C". Again, needless to say, the stats pretty much say "We confidently say that the character is at 3-C, but, while less consistent & genuine, they may be at 2-C instead", it's not two separate things they can switch from. This was an immense mistake.
This seem to be all the changed profiles.
2. The "5-B when holding back" stat Heralds got removed gets readded. Though we should see in which profiles it got removed first and how they were before, maybe less prominent characters really shouldn't have it.
Nebula gets this back
Iron Man Armor Model 65 gets this back in its durability, w/o the "at least"
Iron Man Armor Model 16 gets this back
Midnight Sun gets to be solid 5-B
Jane gets this back, surviving getting one-shotted hit by Vision can also be added in her 5-B durability with the context of it
3. The Infinite LS should be removed, the same Handbooks claims all Heralds to be able to lift around 100 tons, it contradicts their own information that someone whom Heralds scale to would be able to lift infinite weights. Not to mention how "infinitely massive weights" can be hyperbolic.
In Hercules' notes this should be added:
4. Dr. Doom
Changes based on this and this.
5. Hyperion
The profile could use a Note saying all the angles in which his feat of "surviving 2 universes being destroyed" is wrong, as I explained here & here
6. Thor stuff
-- 6.1 Hulk vs Thor
I was going to make a blog pointing out in which of their fights Thor held-back & Hulk wasn't at full anger, in which fights they were at their peak, and in which it was rather unclear. All based on this. This can be linked in both of their profiles for scaling purposes and publicly edited to be updated.
Edit: Here it is, it has as much as we were showing before and more can be added over time (which isn't a priority, as you can see)
-- 6.2 Held-back Thor vs 5-B people
Thor's profile and other profiles can be better updated and sourced on therir fights based on this. Thor's profile would look something like this.
-- 6.3 From Thor's profile: "It is hinted that he shook the universe as a side effect of the launch of Mjolnir."
There are so many issues with this feat. It's immensely poetic. The heavens shudder, not the universe; it's not definite what that even is in this context. It makes no sense for the heavens to shudder via Galactus being hit in space. Even if this even happened, just because something may be shook it doesn't mean that all of it shakes, and in this case it's said that the heavens seem to shudder, which is pretty inapplicable. The feat should be removed.
-- 6.4 From Thor's profile: "Contained the Life-Bomb, which could destroy one-fifth of the universe"
Here's my version of it after actually reading the comic: "Durability: Galaxy level, possibly Low Multiverse level at peak, Multi-Galaxy level vortex Creation (By spinning his hammer, he can manipulate time & space to create an indestructible mystical vortex durable enough to contain the Life-Bomb, which destroys one-fifth of the universe when detonated. Thor himself died from this while inside said vortex and needed to be revived[9]."
Meaning that even if he's only 3-C at peak, he's still able to create this thing with 3-B durability (if he's 2-C then this is kinda useless). Idk if "vortex Creation" is the right name for this tho.
7. Loki and Cyclops
Loki could use a small blog listing feats and anti-feats. Edit: See here
Cyclops can be updated with his feats, see here.
8. The Wrecker
Could use a profile, here is info to make one.
Edit: We will link to this blog on any profile that has scaling to the Wrecking Crew.
9. Godzilla
Very wanked. Thor doesn't compare his strength to the Midgard Serpent, but his fury. This is the same scan as one we use to say he holds back as he says how he's unwilling to slay him. Immediately after this the Human Tourch survives an attack from Godzilla. Godzilla "matched" Thor as they both pushed the same building into the other, before the building got destroyed.
Rage Power is just regular rage, it shouldn't be a power.
12. The Destroyer
The armor varies in power and an average soul powering it is actually 5-B, like when it beat up Wrecker and a depowered Thor with Sif's soul.
13. Registration
All the rejected feats from the other thread could use notes or blogs to keep in hand the reasoning as to why they're wrong. The way things work is that wrong comicbook feats are brought up over and over again, and that's annoying unless they're already accounted for.
I can propose them first and then apply them.
14. Monica Rambeau
In every comic she's in it's always portrayed that she isn't "lightspeed"/FTL (as we have calc'd) always, but only when she flies and that she's otherwise slower. Her speed should be:
"Massively Hypersonic+ Combat & Reaction Speed (Comparable to Captain America<ref>The Avengers (1963) issue 228<>ref>, a held-back Hercules, Namor<ref>The Avengers (1963) issue 262, The Avengers (1963) issue 265</ref>, and other Avengers), up to Speed of Light Flight Speed (Repeatedly established to be able to fly at the speed of light in her energy form) with FTL Reactions while transformed (Changed her form from light to subatomic particles while flying at lightspeed. See Note below)"
Note: Monica can be tagged while in her light form by foes that she can quickly fly circles around as they have trouble keeping up with her, both cases that can happen in a single fight. Her peak speed somehow seems to be less useful in combat, hence she doesn't attack while flying circles around foes, and she mostly uses it to just mobilize around in combat before using lesser speeds, outpace enemies trying to escape, and travel long distances."
15. Drax
He's not a Herald at all.
The closest he has, but he always fails or gets slapped away
This is a held-back Surfer who knows Drax's not evil and tries to have him stop annoying.
Here's an alternative at 5-B and Massively Hypersonic+:
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Edit 1: I will add anti-feats too. I think Drax should have 3 keys; The scrawny one, the super buff one that's super stupid, and modern Drax. The last one is already covered, showings below show why they're not alike.
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Edit 2: This ended up having more evidence on its favor, see here how the profile would look like.
That's only for the Scrawny Drax.
This can be added in the part of his profile that doubts his feat of killing Thanos. see here how the profile would look like.
16. High Evolutionary
A tabber should be made for Base powers and With prep time
Size Manipulation is with prep time for example.
Reasoning for his Enhanced Senses: "(Given time, he could detect an invisible Sue Storm near him using sensors built into his armor<ref>Fantastic Four (1961)/Vol 1 issue 174</ref>)
", up to Star level with Preparation time (By engraving a terminal reaction in the nuclear heart of a star, he can blow it up whole. Can blow up the Earth. Can create a duplication of Earth)" should be changed into:
"Varias (They depend on their purpose. By engraving a terminal reaction in the nuclear heart of a star, he can blow it up whole, which he tried to use to kill Ultron. Can blow up the Earth. Can create a duplication of Earth), up to Galaxy level, possibly Low Multiverse level with Preparation time (Mutated himself to grow at a gigantic size off-panel, fighting evenly against a hungry Galactus, aiming to kill him and being unsure of whom would die in the battle<ref>Fantastic Four (1961)/Vol 1 issues 174 & 175</ref><ref>Galactus praises the High Evolutionary for his power due being having grown in size so quickly, which must not be misinterpreted. It took time for him to do so, letting Galactus invade his world at first, and Sue Storm points that (base) High Evolutionary's "power can't possibly be a match for Galactus", to which he said that he would then die.</ref>)
17. Cosmic Cube
"and Magus used five to defeat Eternity and keep him catatonic"
Should be removed, it's stated here, here and here that his power is finite rather than infinite, and he did what happened to Eternity via trapping his core in mystic bands, which Galactus one-shots to free Eternity.
I don't like removing stuff, so I'm making a small blog adding that feat and the one where Thanos turns into the universe with all the power of a Cosmic Cube.
18. Galactus
", and Galactus is capable of regenerating from complete physical annihilation"
This should be removed. You may think that is Galactus' eye, but it's his ship. His massive ship got destroyed and Galactus uses his power to rebuilt it, they even say he survived that, his body and everyone inside his ship wasn't destroyed.
19. Adam Warlock
Classic Adam is very much not a Herald.
No links. Turns out he used a Karmic Blast, which is hax. His speed has nothing. Let's look at feats and anti-feats in chronological order:
20. Mephisto
His powers should be divided between what he can do outside of Hell of what he can in Hell:
In Hell:
Evidence that he's less powerful outside Hell/Hades
Hell/Hades is part of his soul: (Hell is a facet of Mephisto's black soul<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 3</ref> / an aspect of his spirit<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 4</ref>.
To his Varies durability: (Being able to control his own power and durability, he's repeatedly proven to be affected by lesser foes when unprepared, even in Hell)
Like this: vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/SandboxA#Mephisto_(Marvel_Comics)
On his Feats
We don't see how that affected him.
21. See here other changes on Eternity, Sue, Super-Skrull, Mar-Vell, and Magus.
1. The recently added 3-C and 2-C stats (mostly shown as "3-C normally, 2-C at peak") are completely nonsensical in application as explained here and here, they will be replaced with "3-C, possibly 2-C". Needless to say (unless you forgot how this much of how the wiki works), that makes it 1 state for others to scale to rather than 2, meaning that profiles like Odin being 3-C alone at his weakest will be "3-C, possibly 2-C" and Galactus also being 2-C alone at his weakest will be "3-C, possibly 2-C". Again, needless to say, the stats pretty much say "We confidently say that the character is at 3-C, but, while less consistent & genuine, they may be at 2-C instead", it's not two separate things they can switch from. This was an immense mistake.
This seem to be all the changed profiles.
2. The "5-B when holding back" stat Heralds got removed gets readded. Though we should see in which profiles it got removed first and how they were before, maybe less prominent characters really shouldn't have it.
Nebula gets this back
Iron Man Armor Model 65 gets this back in its durability, w/o the "at least"
Iron Man Armor Model 16 gets this back
Midnight Sun gets to be solid 5-B
Jane gets this back, surviving getting one-shotted hit by Vision can also be added in her 5-B durability with the context of it
3. The Infinite LS should be removed, the same Handbooks claims all Heralds to be able to lift around 100 tons, it contradicts their own information that someone whom Heralds scale to would be able to lift infinite weights. Not to mention how "infinitely massive weights" can be hyperbolic.
In Hercules' notes this should be added:
- Hercules lifted the Heavens<ref>Incredible Hercules Vol 1 121</ref>, which a Handbook exemplifies along "infinitely massive weights". This isn't used as a feat of Infinite Lifting Strength for two main reasons: It could easily be a [[hyperbole]] or go as in ever-growing. While the feat's not contradicted by what little information of it is shown in the comics where Atlas & the Heavens are shown, they say nothing of what "the Heavens" is, how much does it weight, how does the world withstand that weight on top of it, or how could it do so before Atlas lifted the Heavens; The Handbook simply applied to it its own additional information, and it actually contradicts its own narrative of character at Hercules' level being able to lift around 100 tons. This is a clear discontinuity between the Handbook's direct portrayal of the characters' Lifting Strength and the indirect portrayal of their Lifting Strength through [[powerscaling]].
- Additionally, Hercules has previously been reminded of this labor when he lifted Godzilla to prevent him from doing a natural stomp -- not intended to be an attack, whereas Godzilla doesn't apply infinite weight into the world every time he walks. Though this might have been retconned into the labor requiring further Lifting Strength.
4. Dr. Doom
Changes based on this and this.
5. Hyperion
The profile could use a Note saying all the angles in which his feat of "surviving 2 universes being destroyed" is wrong, as I explained here & here
6. Thor stuff
-- 6.1 Hulk vs Thor
I was going to make a blog pointing out in which of their fights Thor held-back & Hulk wasn't at full anger, in which fights they were at their peak, and in which it was rather unclear. All based on this. This can be linked in both of their profiles for scaling purposes and publicly edited to be updated.
Edit: Here it is, it has as much as we were showing before and more can be added over time (which isn't a priority, as you can see)
-- 6.2 Held-back Thor vs 5-B people
Thor's profile and other profiles can be better updated and sourced on therir fights based on this. Thor's profile would look something like this.
-- 6.3 From Thor's profile: "It is hinted that he shook the universe as a side effect of the launch of Mjolnir."
There are so many issues with this feat. It's immensely poetic. The heavens shudder, not the universe; it's not definite what that even is in this context. It makes no sense for the heavens to shudder via Galactus being hit in space. Even if this even happened, just because something may be shook it doesn't mean that all of it shakes, and in this case it's said that the heavens seem to shudder, which is pretty inapplicable. The feat should be removed.
-- 6.4 From Thor's profile: "Contained the Life-Bomb, which could destroy one-fifth of the universe"
Here's my version of it after actually reading the comic: "Durability: Galaxy level, possibly Low Multiverse level at peak, Multi-Galaxy level vortex Creation (By spinning his hammer, he can manipulate time & space to create an indestructible mystical vortex durable enough to contain the Life-Bomb, which destroys one-fifth of the universe when detonated. Thor himself died from this while inside said vortex and needed to be revived[9]."
Meaning that even if he's only 3-C at peak, he's still able to create this thing with 3-B durability (if he's 2-C then this is kinda useless). Idk if "vortex Creation" is the right name for this tho.
7. Loki and Cyclops
Loki could use a small blog listing feats and anti-feats. Edit: See here
Cyclops can be updated with his feats, see here.
8. The Wrecker
Could use a profile,
Edit: We will link to this blog on any profile that has scaling to the Wrecking Crew.
9. Godzilla
Very wanked. Thor doesn't compare his strength to the Midgard Serpent, but his fury. This is the same scan as one we use to say he holds back as he says how he's unwilling to slay him. Immediately after this the Human Tourch survives an attack from Godzilla. Godzilla "matched" Thor as they both pushed the same building into the other, before the building got destroyed.
Rage Power is just regular rage, it shouldn't be a power.
12. The Destroyer
The armor varies in power and an average soul powering it is actually 5-B, like when it beat up Wrecker and a depowered Thor with Sif's soul.
13. Registration
All the rejected feats from the other thread could use notes or blogs to keep in hand the reasoning as to why they're wrong. The way things work is that wrong comicbook feats are brought up over and over again, and that's annoying unless they're already accounted for.
I can propose them first and then apply them.
14. Monica Rambeau
In every comic she's in it's always portrayed that she isn't "lightspeed"/FTL (as we have calc'd) always, but only when she flies and that she's otherwise slower. Her speed should be:
"Massively Hypersonic+ Combat & Reaction Speed (Comparable to Captain America<ref>The Avengers (1963) issue 228<>ref>, a held-back Hercules, Namor<ref>The Avengers (1963) issue 262, The Avengers (1963) issue 265</ref>, and other Avengers), up to Speed of Light Flight Speed (Repeatedly established to be able to fly at the speed of light in her energy form) with FTL Reactions while transformed (Changed her form from light to subatomic particles while flying at lightspeed. See Note below)"
Note: Monica can be tagged while in her light form by foes that she can quickly fly circles around as they have trouble keeping up with her, both cases that can happen in a single fight. Her peak speed somehow seems to be less useful in combat, hence she doesn't attack while flying circles around foes, and she mostly uses it to just mobilize around in combat before using lesser speeds, outpace enemies trying to escape, and travel long distances."
15. Drax
He's not a Herald at all.
The closest he has, but he always fails or gets slapped away
This is a held-back Surfer who knows Drax's not evil and tries to have him stop annoying.
Here's an alternative at 5-B and Massively Hypersonic+:
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Edit 1: I will add anti-feats too. I think Drax should have 3 keys; The scrawny one, the super buff one that's super stupid, and modern Drax. The last one is already covered, showings below show why they're not alike.
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Edit 2: This ended up having more evidence on its favor, see here how the profile would look like.
- Scrawny Drax/First resurrection: Considered by Pre-Resurrection Thanos to be "torally insignificant" - Iron Man (1968)/Vol 1 issue 55
- Fought Pre-Resurrection Thanos and they caused a planetary explosion, which Drax survived weakened & defeated - Iron Man (1968)/Vol 1 issue 55
- Here he is blowing up a world (of unknown size, granted). (Captain Marvel (1968) issue 43)
- He was destroying a similar-looking planetoid 1 issue before (Captain Marvel (1968) issue 42), so I'm pretty sure that "world" was just that.
- Beats up Mar-Vell - Captain Marvel (1968) #43
- Gamora is threatened by him trying to kill her, but can escape him - Warlock Vol 1 issue 15 & The Avengers (1963) Annual 7
- Buff Drax/Second resurrection: Fought and kept up with said held-back Surfer. - Silver Surfer (1987) #37
- In Silver Surfer (1987) #47 Drax is lost as to how could he possibly destroy a planet saying "But wrecking world is big job. How Destroyer going to do that? Maybe break one peace at a time? No that take too long." and he decides to fly very high & come down hard, thinking that is going to break the world in half. This is likely true and Adam was aware of Drax's threat on that world. But, the mechanics of the reality where they were may or may not have amped Drax. ---- So, it doesn't seem like this Drax can just destroy a planet if he feels like it. He doesn't seem to remember he even did so. And also the moron most likely lacks the telepathic abilities shown in Iron Man (1968)/Vol 1 issue 55 (Pointing out the latter at random)
- Fought and kept up with a Thor in the same mindset he was when he defeated the Super-Skrull 1 issue before - Thor (1966) issue 466 & Warlock and the Infinity Watch #21
- Fought and kept up with She-Hulk - Avengers Annual Vol 1 16
- Along Mar-Vell and Green Goblin, they attacked Monica Rambeau at the same speed --- also he has the ability to absorb energy- Avengers Annual Vol 1 16
- Fights and keeps up with Hulk until the latter tries to settle things peacefully- Warlock and the Infinity Watch #13
- Fights evenly with Hulk - Secret Defenders #24
- Tagged & knocked out the Champion of the Universe with a bonk to the head - Silver Surfer (1987) issue 98
That's only for the Scrawny Drax.
This can be added in the part of his profile that doubts his feat of killing Thanos. see here how the profile would look like.
16. High Evolutionary
A tabber should be made for Base powers and With prep time
Size Manipulation is with prep time for example.
Reasoning for his Enhanced Senses: "(Given time, he could detect an invisible Sue Storm near him using sensors built into his armor<ref>Fantastic Four (1961)/Vol 1 issue 174</ref>)
", up to Star level with Preparation time (By engraving a terminal reaction in the nuclear heart of a star, he can blow it up whole. Can blow up the Earth. Can create a duplication of Earth)" should be changed into:
"Varias (They depend on their purpose. By engraving a terminal reaction in the nuclear heart of a star, he can blow it up whole, which he tried to use to kill Ultron. Can blow up the Earth. Can create a duplication of Earth), up to Galaxy level, possibly Low Multiverse level with Preparation time (Mutated himself to grow at a gigantic size off-panel, fighting evenly against a hungry Galactus, aiming to kill him and being unsure of whom would die in the battle<ref>Fantastic Four (1961)/Vol 1 issues 174 & 175</ref><ref>Galactus praises the High Evolutionary for his power due being having grown in size so quickly, which must not be misinterpreted. It took time for him to do so, letting Galactus invade his world at first, and Sue Storm points that (base) High Evolutionary's "power can't possibly be a match for Galactus", to which he said that he would then die.</ref>)
17. Cosmic Cube
"and Magus used five to defeat Eternity and keep him catatonic"
Should be removed, it's stated here, here and here that his power is finite rather than infinite, and he did what happened to Eternity via trapping his core in mystic bands, which Galactus one-shots to free Eternity.
I don't like removing stuff, so I'm making a small blog adding that feat and the one where Thanos turns into the universe with all the power of a Cosmic Cube.
18. Galactus
", and Galactus is capable of regenerating from complete physical annihilation"
This should be removed. You may think that is Galactus' eye, but it's his ship. His massive ship got destroyed and Galactus uses his power to rebuilt it, they even say he survived that, his body and everyone inside his ship wasn't destroyed.
19. Adam Warlock
Classic Adam is very much not a Herald.
No links. Turns out he used a Karmic Blast, which is hax. His speed has nothing. Let's look at feats and anti-feats in chronological order:
- (5-B) Harmed Thor with an energy beam and tossed him back<ref>Thor (1966) issue 165</ref>
- (5-B) Harmed Thanos, who used some odd power to put him down, and it's established that Thanos fears him and was surprised when he defeated him so easily - The Avengers (1963) annual 7 ---- Note that this is Pre-Resurrection Thanos, the resurrection given by Death making him stronger and in this story he even needed a power source to destroy the sun, the story putting clear that he can't do it without it (and he needed 5 power gems to even built that power source).
- (4-C for the Soul Gem) His Soul Gem has the power to blow up the sun - Marvel-Two-In-One Annual 2
- (Anti-feat) States that neither he or Strange have the power to separate Thanos and SS fighting against each other - Infinity Gauntlet (1991) issue 5
- (Anti-feat) Would have been harmed by an explosion over a side of a city block-sized ship, and would have died with the whole ship blowing up - Warlock and the Infinity Watch issue 4
- (5-B) Harmed Colossus with an energy beam (Had the Soul Gem but it wasn't pointed out)- Infinity War issue 4 & Wonder Man (1991) issue 14
- (Nothing yet. Really 5-B tho) Blasted Quasar twice, knocking him out while distrasted with the second blast - Quasar Vol 1 issue 38 -- He doesn't have a profile, this could go in Adam's feats.
- (5-B) Fought evenly against and bested Wonder Man - Wonder Man (1991)/Vol 2 issue 14
- (Anti-feats) Was easily handled by Magus and a Thanos clone in Infinity War, they put him in the same room as them and he didn't even fight back.
- (5-B) Fought evenly and lost against Dr. Doom in Infinity War --- Granted, I think it's vaguely implied that the backpacks Doom and Kang were using amped them, as they tried to attack Magus at first with guns connected to those backpacks. Doom defeated Magus at the end via blasts, yet wanted him to "very slowly" hand over something to him, so I would think he's physically just as 5-B, hence Adam was able to harm him. Otherwise if the backpacks do nothing then why did they try to attack via guns connected to it?
- Mephisto feats that will be shown below.
- (At his own level) FoughtOlik. This was trial by combat and no special talents or weapons were allowed. - Warlock and the Infinity Watch Vol 1 issue 24
- It says nowhere that Olik is stronger than Ulik, only that they are brothers, and Ulik is stated elsewhere to be the strongest of all trolls (Thor Vol 1 issue 210)
- (5-B) Fought with Hercules for a bit before being defeated - Warlock and the Infinity Watch Vol 1 issue 27
- (?) Snaps and beats a foe unleashing "a force so terrible it that could shatter worlds and shake stars" - Warlock and the Infinity Watch Vol 1 issue 32
- Died and got revived. - Rune Vol 2 ∞
- Portrays each of his resurrections as an evolution, growing with each one and portraying them as him being a baby, child, adolescent and adult regardless of always looking like an adult - Rune (1995)/Vol 2 issue 2
- (5-B) Punched out Drax - Warlock (1998)/Vol 4 issue 1
- (5-B) The corpse of Mar-Vell punched him through a structure - Warlock (1998) issue 2
- Gamora and Pip note that Adam was never "that strong before", that maybe his gem had something to do with it, and that there seems to be many things different with Adam now - Warlock (1998) issue 3
- (5-B) Survived Syphonn, Annihulus and Blaastar blasting him at once - Warlock (1998) issue 4 - Sysphonn appears only in the 4 comics of that series. Blaastar is a FF enemy. And Annihulus has a profile, he's super 5-B.
- Threw Noel from somewhere in the sky into a satellite in orbit - Ultraverse Unlimited issue 1
- (Either an outlier or 5-B) Fought pretty poorly, took a number of strikes from the Warrior (Thanosi), and was defeated by him & other Thanos clone. He descirbes Warrior as being four to five time stronger than Thanos - Infinity Abyss Vol 1 -- He matches a beam from the mage via counting it with his gem's power. He says that the warrior has superior physical strength, and says that his strength is nothing next to his. If this clone is as strong as Thanos, this is an outlier portrayed as if it made sense for how badly Adam did. OR, the strength of Warrior was measured next the "original Thanos" as in Pre-Resurrection Thanos.
- (Herald level) Blasted & knocked the Omega Thanosi from his ship with the Soul Gem - Infinity Abyss Vol 1
20. Mephisto
His powers should be divided between what he can do outside of Hell of what he can in Hell:
In Hell:
- Reality Warping (His wishes become true<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 3</ref>. Can grant himself "nearly any wish" he can imagine<ref></ref>)
- Status Effect Inducement (Trapped Adam Warlock in hellfire ash. Snapped his fingers to teleport characters in a trapped state with earth-like structures. Teleported those characters to be trapped in a different way inside stone<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 3</ref> that had mystical forces binding them<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 4</ref>)
- To his Illusion Creation (Created illusions of himself around a foe to gain an advantage<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 4</ref>)
- To his Portal Creation (Created many real door-like portals around a foe that don't show where they lead to, gaining an advantage<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 4</ref>)
- Resistance to Soul Manip (...)
- Cloth Manipulation (Created minor accessories for himself<ref>Warlock Chronicles issue 3</ref>. Give a pair of pants to a kid<ref>Black Panther (1998)/Vol 2 issue 2</ref>)
- Weapon Creation (Created a sword and axe for himself while willing to fight at his best<ref>Warlock Chronicles issue 3</ref>)
Evidence that he's less powerful outside Hell/Hades
Hell/Hades is part of his soul: (Hell is a facet of Mephisto's black soul<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 3</ref> / an aspect of his spirit<ref>Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection issue 4</ref>.
To his Varies durability: (Being able to control his own power and durability, he's repeatedly proven to be affected by lesser foes when unprepared, even in Hell)
Like this: vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/SandboxA#Mephisto_(Marvel_Comics)
On his Feats
We don't see how that affected him.
21. See here other changes on Eternity, Sue, Super-Skrull, Mar-Vell, and Magus.
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