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Usopp vs Lady Nagant (9/11/2)

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Usopp vs Lady Nagant
  • Initial distance: 500 meters
  • Speed is equalized
  • Location: Dressrosa
  • Both have basic knowledge of each other's skills and powers (Usopp doesn't know of Nagant's flying power and she doesn't know Usopp's Haki).
King of Snipers: 9 (@MonkeyOfLife, @KingTempest, @joshpiece, @RazumaHiroki, @StrawHatArslan, @mitsuki, @Popted2, @Expectro2000xxx, @Onilcx)

Queen of Snipers: 11 (@Rez, @Loyd, @ElixirBlue, @TheRustyOne, @Shadowbokunohero, @ThanatosX, @Milly_Rocking_Bandit, @Insert_creative_name_here_12, @NomsNoms, @Sonicflare9, @SemiRaedi)

Inconclusive: 2 (@Kingofwolves999, @Epiccheev)
 
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I meant in terms of proficiency, because Lady Nagant had shown great proficiency with her abilities.
 
Well, since he was a child Usopp had a great aim. Using Haki he was able to hit a very small window of a castle on top of a mountain at least a kilometer away. I'm aware that Nagant has more experience and aim here, but Usopp's arsenal gives him some advantages.
 
I mean. Does Usopp have any way of NOT getting lit up with sniper rounds?

From what I see, Nagant wins from just a pure technological standpoint on top of her aim. She would be able to predict Usopp’s position no matter where he is while within her 3 km radius, can fly around to get better shots on him, and can shoot any of his own projectiles out of the sky with ease before they reach her.

Her rate of fire alone outpaces many of his options, while her mobility, especially when propelling herself while flying, can get her out of most situations. If she retreats to her real range of 3 km, there’s nothing Usopp can even do.
 
Underestimating God Usopp 😤😡
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Talk bad about Usopp again will get a punishment worse than
DEATH 😈
 
@Kingofwolves999

I don't disagree that she can win, but that's not a stomp. Usopp is a born strategist, his smoke bomb can hide an entire town in an instant (Midoriya created a breach against Nagant in the same way being limited by the rain). Haki would locate Nagant's presence in an instant too and determine her control point, even if she tries to go air, Usopp would still locate her. It is Usopp who would predict her presence, unless she manages to get drastically away like that, but taking into account the initial 500 meters, there's no way she can escape his view lol.

Btw, speed is equal, Nagant wouldn't be able to "shoot Usopp's projectiles in the air" to destroy them before they hit her (And I don't even know if this would be valid, Usopp shoots from plants to even a phoenix made of pure fire).
 
@Kingofwolves999

I don't disagree that she can win, but that's not a stomp. Usopp is a born strategist, his smoke bomb can hide an entire town in an instant (Midoriya created a breach against Nagant in the same way being limited by the rain). Haki would locate Nagant's presence in an instant too and determine her control point, even if she tries to go air, Usopp would still locate her. It is Usopp who would predict her presence, unless she manages to get drastically away like that, but taking into account the initial 500 meters, there's no way she can't escape his view lol.

Btw, speed is equal, Nagant wouldn't be able to "shoot Usopp's projectiles in the air" to destroy them before they hit her (And I don't even know if this would be valid, Usopp shoots from plants to even a phoenix made of pure fire).
You are Spared
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@Kingofwolves999

I don't disagree that she can win, but that's not a stomp. Usopp is a born strategist, his smoke bomb can hide an entire town in an instant (Midoriya created a breach against Nagant in the same way being limited by the rain). Haki would locate Nagant's presence in an instant too and determine her control point, even if she tries to go air, Usopp would still locate her. It is Usopp who would predict her presence, unless she manages to get drastically away like that, but taking into account the initial 500 meters, there's no way she can't escape his view lol.

Btw, speed is equal, Nagant wouldn't be able to "shoot Usopp's projectiles in the air" to destroy them before they hit her (And I don't even know if this would be valid, Usopp shoots from plants to even a phoenix made of pure fire).
I don’t think I claimed it was a stomp? I simply said that she has a lot of methods that work in her favor, namely her flight and ridiculous skill. Haki locating her isn’t the issue, it’s that she will also knows where he is excepting the usage of his smoke bomb I’d imagine, which he would have to use quickly lest he catch a bullet to the head seconds after the fight starts.

Speed being equal means that she would see his projectiles coming and can react to them though? Especially from 500 meters away and with her degree of prediction skills? And her attack speed is higher than her normal speed anyway? And what she can’t shoot she just dodges with her flight by propelling herself away with her shots.

Essentially, Usopp has to not die to several shots when the fight starts in order to use his smoke bomb, and then has to pray Nagant doesn’t just fly upwards several hundred feet and waits to snipe anything that moves. The only reason Deku got away with his maneuver is because he speed amped and blitzed her from the smoke before she could react. If he tried leaving the smoke in any other way, he would’ve died instantly.
 
Doesn't Usopp's reactions kinda blitz? ... Usopp reactions can easily react to lightning pre timeskip
• Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one by this manner, even though they are now running slower.
 
Doesn't Usopp's reactions kinda blitz? ... Usopp reactions can easily react to lightning pre timeskip
• Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one by this manner, even though they are now running slower.
Speed is equal
 
That doesn’t mean much? I know the speed blitz rules, and at worse this match would just be a stomp either way since she’d either blitz or he would.
I'm talking about this:
• Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one by this manner, even though they are now running slower.

Usopp (even if speed equallized) can dodge her bullets easily even if he is the same speed as her
 
I'm talking about this:
• Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one by this manner, even though they are now running slower.

Usopp (even if speed equallized) can dodge her bullets easily even if he is the same speed as her
That relates to abilities based on speed still working, not reaction speed. If her bullets are fast enough to blitz characters comparable to her, and Usopp is scaled down to her level, then her bullets would blitz him.

Usopp isn't die on her first hit, his AP scale to 5.8MT iirc.
She instakills 3.91 tons. And can rapid fire.
 
Those are speed feats. Which are negated by speed equal. Note the “abilities” part of the rule. Not feats.
• Abilities based on speed are assumed to be retained. Characters that can run over water via speed can, for example, still do so even if now technically too slow for that. Likewise, a character who can create a tornado by running fast in a circle can still create one by this manner, even though they are now running slower.
Those are speed feats tho...
 
You’re essentially claiming that any light speed character, despite being equalized in speed to say a supersonic character, should be able to dodge all their attacks anyway because they are light speed normally. That isn’t what that part of the rule means. It means that abilities that stem from speed, like creating tornadoes or sonic booms, are still applicable, even if the speed they have been equalized to is below that requirement.
 
You’re essentially claiming that any light speed character, despite being equalized in speed to say a supersonic character, should be able to dodge all their attacks anyway because they are light speed normally. That isn’t what that part of the rule means. It means that abilities that stem from speed, like creating tornadoes or sonic booms, are still applicable, even if the speed they have been equalized to is below that requirement.
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Those are speed feats tho...
They are examples of things that not everyone with super speed can do. Not everyone that is light speed can run on water or has been shown capable of it. Therefore circumstances like that are treated as abilities, not speed feats, though many of them are used in conjunction.

Take sonic the hedgehog for example. He can create tornadoes by running really fast. So let’s equalize him in speed to a normal, peak human reaction character. He can still make the tornado, but in order for the fight to be fair, he can only react to the attacks of the peak human reaction character as if they were the same speed as he is.
 
So look at it less like Usopp has been nerfed to her level, and more like Nagant has been buffed to his level. So in the case of speed equal, her bullets, to Usopp, would be far faster than lightning.

Hence why this is probably just a stomp.
 
They are examples of things that not everyone with super speed can do. Not everyone that is light speed can run on water or has been shown capable of it. Therefore circumstances like that are treated as abilities, not speed feats, though many of them are used in conjunction.

Take sonic the hedgehog for example. He can create tornadoes by running really fast. So let’s equalize him in speed to a normal, peak human reaction character. He can still make the tornado, but in order for the fight to be fair, he can only react to the attacks of the peak human reaction character as if they were the same speed as he is.
Isn't that the same as dodging lightning? Even if he is slower he can still do it?
 
Isn't that the same as dodging lightning? Even if he is slower he can still do it?
No, because you’re assuming dodging lighting is an ability, when it is purely speed based. Being able to run really fast to make a tornado is an ability (by wiki standards) due to not being something any conventional fast character can do. Like say Shikamaru from Naruto wouldn’t be able to do that, despite being really fast.

Dodging lightning is something anyone in that speed tier could do, however, so it is not an inherent ability.
 
No, because you’re assuming dodging lighting is an ability, when it is purely speed based. Being able to run really fast to make a tornado is an ability (by wiki standards) due to not being something any conventional fast character can do. Like say Shikamaru from Naruto wouldn’t be able to do that.

Dodging lightning is something anyone in that speed tier could do, however, so it is not an inherent ability.
🤔 what if your speed ability is speed blitzing... Kinda like brook?
  • Hanauta Sancho: Yahazu Giri (Three-Verse Humming: Arrow-Notch Slash): A high-speed technique where Brook swiftly cuts his opponent(s) as he approaches them and then re-sheats his blade.
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🤔 what if your speed ability is speed blitzing... Kinda like brook?
  • Hanauta Sancho: Yahazu Giri (Three-Verse Humming: Arrow-Notch Slash): A high-speed technique where Brook swiftly cuts his opponent(s) as he approaches them and then re-sheats his blade.
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Then whoever they’re fighting is about to have a very bad day. Abilities like that are only restricted if it’s the lower-speed character doing it.
 
Somebody vandalized Usopp's profile.

Anyways, it's possible that Nagant can just chip at Usopp away while not getting hit due to he superior range. IMO that's one of the things that would make it difficult for God Usopp to win even if he could react to her attacks. Unless he has a way of closing the distance.
 
Isn't this a stomp because of usopp's durability being much higher than hers? DURABILITY: Multi City level+(Usopp) vs AP: Small City level+ with Rifle (Nagant)
 
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