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Undertale Fan Dream Come True? Mid-Godly? Let me cook.

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ShionAH

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Alright alright this is gonna be very... controversial (maybe not Idk)

It was accepted here that Low-Godly makes sense but Mid-Godly was rejected since we had no proof if Souls contained the mind or not

We see the souls have minds in these cases
Perhaps the most important feat, The Souls literally strip Flowey from his powers, proceed to beat his ass like theres no tomorrow and save Frisk from their demise

Now for the giant supporting feat. The Lost Souls in Asriels fight talk, fight and act on their own, if we try to save them they literally get their conscious back which would not be possible if Souls didnt contain Mind
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe souls are ever actually erased in Undertale. They just break into pieces. Which isn't total destruction, and thus can't be considered Mid-Godly, as far as I know.

Furthermore, I'm a bit iffy on the evidence for mind being contained in soul. I don't know how strict wiki standards are but I believe you require statements of consciousness or mind being an aspect of the soul for that to be accepted.

I'm unsure if just thinking and acting as a soul is enough.
 
Phoenks said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe souls are ever actually erased in Undertale. They just break into pieces. Which isn't total destruction, and thus can't be considered Mid-Godly, as far as I know.
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Read the thread I linked Phoenks. Its about Floweys LOAD not about soul shattering. Low-Godly is already accepted by the way I am only here to make it Mid-Godly with the Mind evidence
Phoenks said:
Furthermore, I'm a bit iffy on the evidence for mind being contained in soul. I don't know how strict wiki standards are but I believe you require statements of consciousness or mind being an aspect of the soul for that to be accepted.

I'm unsure if just thinking and acting as a soul is enough.
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If they didnt have a mind how would they do any of these-? That would simply not work.
 
ShionAH said:
Read the thread I linked Phoenks. Its about Floweys LOAD not about soul shattering. Low-Godly is already accepted by the way I am only here to make it Mid-Godly with the Mind evidence
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O.

Dang, wild that was accepted. Rip.


ShionAH said:
If they didnt have a mind how would they do any of these-? That would simply not work.
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One could just have the ability to think and act as a soul, no?

I don't think this necessitates the existence of a mind aspect, unless it's further specified and elaborated on. Just that their soul can think for itself.

If I'm wrong, then damn, that'd upgrade quite a few people I know of to Mid-Godly.

But if this was rejected before I kind of doubt it.
 
Phoenks said:
One could just have the ability to think and act as a soul, no?
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What? These bros have no body only soul and before it was accepted that they were mindless but obviously they are not as they are seen to have emotions and their own thinking
 
ShionAH said:
What? These bros have no body only soul and before it was accepted that they were mindless but obviously they are not as they are seen to have emotions and their own thinking
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If it was accepted they were mindless then that would mean people agreed that they could just think and act as souls, which is kind of my point here.

I'll let someone more knowledgeable on the aspects stuff comment I guess.
 
Phoenks said:
If it was accepted they were mindless then that would mean people agreed that they could just think and act as souls, which is kind of my point here.
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It was accepted they were mindless since we had no proof that if they had a consciousness or not but now we do.
 
Also, gonna have to disagree on Frisk being able to regenerate his soul from erasure at all btw.

Flowey never did that. He only regenerated a body while lacking a soul.

You are basically assuming that Frisk can regenerate a soul because Flowey could regenerate his body without a soul.

It doesn't make much sense to me.
 
Phoenks said:
Also, gonna have to disagree on Frisk being able to regenerate his soul from erasure at all btw.

Flowey never did that. He only regenerated a body while lacking a soul.

You are basically assuming that Frisk can regenerate a soul because Flowey could regenerate his body without a soul.

It doesn't make much sense to me.
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Go to the other thread for this or make a downgrade thread please. (You should wait for Strym to be unbanned lol) I dont want to fill my CRT.
 
Do I really need to make a separate CRT talking about the mechanics of the regen when this thread is already talking about the mechanics of the Regen?
 
Phoenks said:
Do I really need to make a separate CRT talking about the mechanics of the regen when this thread is already talking about the mechanics of the Regen?
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This is talking about how the aspects in Undertale work. It just happens to upgrade the Regeneration aswell.
 
Fezzih_007 said:
Not sure about the stardands, but this seems to make sense to me.
Just to be sure, we do not we have a clear statement to support this Idea?
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The Lost Souls are the best support I could find. They are literally souls who later show they are the monsters we all know
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Quick question: is the theoretical mind of the soul ever shown to be destroyed?
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Not sure what you mean but I dont think so. This CRT is only to make Soul = Soul + Mind which in response would automatically upgrade Low to Mid Godly
 
It turns out Asriel directly states he erased the memories of the Souls in the Pacifist Ending which is a direct confirmation on the Mind
 
ShionAH said:
It turns out Asriel directly states he erased the memories of the Souls in the Pacifist Ending which is a direct confirmation on the Mind
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Memories =/= Mind. If their mind was destroyed completely, Frisk wouldn't have been able to restore it by just reminding them of their previous selves.
 
Da3ggman said:
Yeah, sorry about that mate. Anyway, I'm down for agreeing with the fact that souls have minds.
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This would also upgrade it to Mid-Godly though since the only reason it wasnt Mis-Godly was this reason
 
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