Unbeatable Slime meets a Pokémon God

[Mizuki67]

He is right, his 2-A is not scaled to AP, durability or anything outside imaginary space. He still gets 2-A range.

Imaginary space is the sub skill of his VGA as he can use it both offense and defense i don't see how is it not 2-A?

 

[Tatsumi504]

How is imaginary space AP?

 

[Tatsumi504]

Regarding the match;

1. How many layers of BS exactly does each side have?
2. When layers were being listed, were they all 3D, 4D or both? If it's both, it shouldn't be counted as layers at all
3. Isn't Arceus negating anything and everything NLF? Powernull only negates what it had been shown to right?

 

[theultimate5105]

Regarding the match;

1. How many layers of BS exactly does each side have?

Arceus’s bare minimum is above baseline for all of its hax
For stuff like Powernull, Mindhax and Sealing it is dozens of 4-D layers. Other hax have various numbers of layers.

1. When layers were being listed, were they all 3D, 4D or both? If it's both, it shouldn't be counted as layers at all

All Arceus layers are 4-D (I specifically did not list a chain including 3-D stuff which by how the plates work would add layers regardless)

1. Isn't Arceus negating anything and everything NLF? Powernull only negates what it had been shown to right?

Arceus null works on everything in Pokemon which means it nulls anything that isn’t higher D from the Powernull or Plot Manipulation (and stuff on the same level as plot hax). It’s null is the combination of a ton of other broken powernull abilties

 

[Sniper670]

Regarding the match;

1. How many layers of BS exactly does each side have?

Unquantifiable unless you be specific.

Arceus does not care about layers because resistances negation GG

1. When layers were being listed, were they all 3D, 4D or both? If it's both, it shouldn't be counted as layers at all

Everything scales to his level of power ie. 4D.

Plus what Arceus has are resistance negation not really resistances. He just turns it to null

1. Isn't Arceus negating anything and everything NLF? Powernull only negates what it had been shown to right?

Pokéverse has every hax on the wiki besides the very unachievable ones like TD(they have, I just don't want to wank), Plot hax (they have, I just don't want to wank). There's nothing on the wiki they don't have.

And even the most basic things have like 4 or 5 different usages of it

 

[Sniper670]

This is going on for far too long.

We start by Arceus reverting all Rimuru resistances into Weaknesses. So let's begin

1. Arceus traps his mind in a dream
2. Arceus creates copies of Rimuru to fight Rimuru, "believes" they're stronger and they stomp while he has a snack
3. Transmute him into a doll or something dumb like that
4. Seal him
5. Take his powers away. Upscaling massively above humans who he gave powers to who can seal Hoopa
6. Reverse his existence, negating his powers and reverting him into a kid and nuking out of existence. Try coming back from the time you didn't have the hax that gave you high Godly
7. Madness hax type 2 and 3.
8. Body Puppetry so Rimuru wouldn't even have a will of his own in the first place
9. Willpower manipulation
10. Death hax + petrification
11. Disease hax that kills instantly

Here are his wincon. There's more, but we can start from here

He also has this. He'd continue to break and rebreak Rimuru.

 

[Sniper670]

BUMP

 

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It's basically a wrap

Just use Darkrai

 

[Sniper670]

Or Magikarp

 

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Or MissingNo

 

[Sniper670]

The enthusiasm Slime supporters have when they know Rimuru slams doesn't exist here

Where are the supporters

 

[ImmortalDread]

You are still debating despite the fact you know that he is smurf , Rimuru got no way to reach him. Close the thread

 

[Sniper670]

Incap is allowed

How many times did I say that

 

[Sniper670]

Btw is 2B sonic a good match

 

[ImmortalDread]

Btw is 2B sonic a good match

Sonic blitzes, so no

 

[Sniper670]

Sonic blitzes, so no

Does immeasurable speed bypass the plates?

It's like saying immeasurable speed bypasses the armor I'm wearing. I think not

 

[ImmortalDread]

In Sonic case it does, I heard they are fastest mfs in fiction, it is layered somehow

 

[theultimate5105]

Does immeasurable speed bypass the plates?

It's like saying immeasurable speed bypasses the armor I'm wearing. I think not

Nah Plates would stop Dialga and Omnipresence through time = Immeasurable speed)

 

[ImmortalDread]

Omnipresence won't save you if they can outrun omnipresent themselves

 

[Sniper670]

In Sonic case it does, I heard they are fastest mfs in fiction, it is layered somehow

How is it bypassing the armor I'm wearing. This isn't making sense to me? Explain.

If it can't, then Trick Room law haxes the speed and Arceus speed blitzes if he enters the range

 

[ImmortalDread]

How is it bypassing the armor I'm wearing. This isn't making sense to me? Explain.

He will see u as frozen, id see how plates will save u.

 

[Sniper670]

He will see u as frozen, id see how plates will save u.

Arceus will appear as frozen? Lmfao

 

[ImmortalDread]

;(

 

[Sniper670]

I'll drop that for now. How about speed equalized

 

[ImmortalDread]

I'll drop that for now. How about speed equalized

Arceus stomps lol. I doubt sonic has even half of resistances to plates, unlike Rimuru in our case.

 

[Sniper670]

Arceus stomps lol. I doubt sonic has even half of resistances to plates, unlike Rimuru in our case.

Hmmph....

Let's wait for Rimuru supporters

 

[Sniper670]

Nah Plates would stop Dialga and Omnipresence through time = Immeasurable speed)

Hypothetically speaking, Arceus has infinite powers

 

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To be fair tho even when speed isn't equalized how can sonic scratch Arceus when Arceus has the AP advantage upscaling the CT and even Hyper sonic when Palkia and Dialga are capable of one shotting Sonic?
Even then Arceus has passives such as madness hax
It will be like shooting bullets on a tank

 

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Omnipresence won't save you if they can outrun omnipresent themselves

Doesn't Arceus omnipresents upscale the creation trio true forms who should probably upscale from Solaris?

 

[Sniper670]

Doesn't Arceus omnipresents upscale the creation trio true forms who should probably upscale from Solaris?

But his Avatar doesn't have Omnipresence tho

 

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But his Avatar doesn't have Omnipresence tho

I see

 

[Tatsumi504]

Here are his wincon. There's more, but we can start from here

He also has this. He'd continue to break and rebreak Rimuru.

So stomp or be stomped? This is why I'm losing interest in tier 2 & above

 

[Sniper670]

Arceus cant get past high godly so he stomps till he gets bored and seals him gg

 

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Wasn't there some point in this wiki where Arceus had high godly and immeasurable speed?

 

[Sniper670]

Unfortunately theres none. Getting past his plates to harm him is a very tall order on its own

 

[Sniper670]

BUMP

 

[Sniper670]

BUMP

 

[Zencha9]

arceus FRA

 

[Sniper670]

BUMP

 

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https://vsbattles.com/threads/sonic-vs-darkrai-sonic-the-hedgehog-vs-pokemon.147084/