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If you want to misconstrue me, go ahead, that’s not going to change my point. Because you haven’t proven it’s above baseline.
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Info Analysis is valid, but Power Null and Power Mimicry don't work like that by our current standards, as I've cited before, those powers require feats regarding interacting accordingly with the same sort of P&As in question, incuding their own layers and whatever as well for the sake of NLFs.I don’t think you understand what I’m saying, or what a NLF is. Rimuru’s Info Analysis, Power Mimicry, and Power Null also have layers. They just supersede Giratina’s (lack of resistance). You haven’t proven that he can even resist it, you’re just screaming NLF without any legitimate reason.
Giratina has no resistance, so his ability works.
Rimuru has done exactly that, so it isn’t a NLF. All of his abilities have greater potency than Giratina, which is the point I’ve been making.Power Null and Power Mimicry don't work like that by our current standards, as I've cited before, those powers require feats regarding interacting accordingly with the same sort of P&As in question, incuding their own layers and whatever as well for the sake of NLFs.
I believe Bob's point is that each and every one of Giratina's powers needs proof of having been copied by Rimuru before, I think.Rimuru has done exactly that, so it isn’t a NLF. All of his abilities have greater potency than Giratina, which is the point I’ve been making.
I’m not sure if you think I’ve just been saying that he mimics all powers regardless of potency, but no, I’m not, and once more, there isn’t even a resistance on it.
Correct, which is why I'm saying that in the scenario there were indeed feats for those either way, it'd not really matter as then he'd already have them overall.I believe Bob's point is that each and every one of Giratina's powers needs proof of having been copied by Rimuru before, I think.
I gave you elaboration, Palkia and Dialga not being able to reach him doesn’t mean that Giratina is a whole another infinity away. Whether or not you actually want to respond to that is on you. His AP is baseline, and thus is his size.Once again "Your wrong!" With 0 elaboration and only "Thats range!" Which... like bro that's the point, Rimuru has the same brand of 2-A range Palkia and Dialga have(baseline) so what's magically different here lol
And I’m saying Rimuru already has all of them, to a greater degree, therefore he can copy and nullify Giratina.Correct, which is why I'm saying that in the scenario there were indeed feats for those either way, it'd not really matter as then he'd already have them overall.
If this is true then I concede, assuming Rimuru having a P&A means he can null it.And I’m saying Rimuru already has all of them, to a greater degree, therefore he can copy and nullify Giratina.
Whether its a planklength or an infinity, Rimuru just lacks the range, he's bound in one infinity and can't get to the other no matter how close the infinities are. That's the point.I gave you elaboration, Palkia and Dialga not being able to reach him doesn’t mean that Giratina is a whole another infinity away. Whether or not you actually want to respond to that is on you. His AP is baseline, and thus is his size.
Rimuru isn’t actually doing anything to him, he’s literally just looking at him. If he sees him, he can analyze him, entirely my point.
And I’m saying Rimuru already has all of them, to a greater degree, therefore he can copy and nullify Giratina.
I mean, look at Rimuru’s profile. Can you find any ability that Giratina has that Rimuru doesn’t?If this is true then I concede, assuming Rimuru having a P&A means he can null it.
He doesn’t to move, he doesn’t even need range. All he’s doing is just looking at him, lmao. That’s how his power works. He only needs to see Giratina. Unless you’re saying they start infinitely apart from each other.Whether its a planklength or an infinity, Rimuru just lacks the range, he's bound in one infinity and can't get to the other no matter how close the infinities are. That's the point.
This is a boring incon, and the placement is decided on whether Giratina ***** everyone beneath it outside of just survivability.
Antimatter ManipulationI mean, look at Rimuru’s profile. Can you find any ability that Giratina has that Rimuru doesn’t?
Rimuru recreated the entire multiverse, which would include anti-matter.Antimatter Manipulation
I mean that's kind of how the Distortion World functions, it's outside normal realityHe doesn’t to move, he doesn’t even need range. All he’s doing is just looking at him, lmao. That’s how his power works. He only needs to see Giratina. Unless you’re saying they start infinitely apart from each other.
Put that hax on his profile then lolRimuru recreated the entire multiverse, which would include anti-matter.
Already is, he has every ability in that series.Put that hax on his profile then lol
In case of creation of large and varied objects, such as planets, galaxies and universes, one should just list creation as ability without listing separate abilities for each created object. For example, while creation of a galaxy likely includes creation of black holes, Black Hole Creation should not be listed separately. An exception to that would be if the object in question is of particular relevance to the characters fighting style, i.e. if the character for instance launches black holes at his opponents.
No it really isn't, in all 46 mentions of "ant" Antimatter Manipulation is never one of them lolAlready is, he has every ability in that series.
His profile, in his last key, says he every ability in the series.No it really isn't, in all 46 mentions of "ant" Antimatter Manipulation is never one of them lol
Do say where in the series Antimatter Manipulation is a thing and then put that onto Rimuru's profileHis profile, in his last key, says he every ability in the series.
He recreated the universe, again, which includes anti-matter.Do say where in the series Antimatter Manipulation is a thing and then put that onto Rimuru's profile
He didn't try to kill that teenager. I'm talking about Legends: Arceus.Also dragged Shaymin and a few others including said teenager in so it can use his powers to break it's prison (which I found wierd since Giratina is stronger and holds more power over his dimension but I digress). Giratina hasn't shown a reserve against keeping people out of the dimension and is also impatient. May want to do it cause he sees it as his only chance to do actual damage.
Although even if he doesn't do that. He will need to use a portal to go to his dimension. Which Rimuru may be able to analyze and replicate (maybe, not sure the extent of his analysis abilities).
The reason for pulling would be the stomping of the avatar. Assuming the true form is way stronger than the avatar used, Giratina may try to attack Rimuru in home turf where his true form can land a close ranged attack that is stronger than any of the attacks from his avatar. If true form Giratina doesn't have any attacks that are stronger than the avatar attacks then I'd agree with Incon, same if the only stronger attacks true form has are ranged attacks. But would Giratina not try any close ranged attacks on Rimuru that can only be done within the Distortion world?so it has 0 reason to actually pull Rimuru in after he CURBSTOMPS said avatar used
As I said before, Rimuru's Multiversal+ range is only valid in Imaginary Space, so Rimuru can't win unless Girantina makes a major mistake like entering Rimuru's territory where he can have infinite clones with the same abilities as him. (We are sure that Giratina would not do such a thing.)I'd agree with Incon
Also, Rimuru is resisting the BFR.EoS Rimuru has a multi-layered and high-level resistance against the BFR. (Rimuru resisting Chrono Saltation > Beelzebub > Predator / Zero Subspace )
are you sure rimuru has the range to resist BFR that bigAlso, Rimuru is resisting the BFR.
I don't think there is anything more to discuss here.
I don't completely understand what you mean, but I can make such a comment about BFR.are you sure rimuru has the range to resist BFR that big
No, I'm not talking about teleporting, portals, dimensional travel, warp etc. These don't imply resistance to BFR. It just helps you get rid of BFR.Is BFR resisted like merely traveling back or...? That's relevant, "layered" BFR resistances as a whole are weird as BFR is merely a travel ability than hax per-say.
The thing about TF Giratina is that it doesn't really, ya know, fight?
Fair enough, honestly kinda surprised the creation trio isn't already 2-A all things considered. Agree with incon but just think the fight ending by Giratina just taking random pot shots at Rimuru is kinda lame and anticlimatic. Eh oh well, stuff was already addedAs I said before, Rimuru's Multiversal+ range is only valid in Imaginary Space, so Rimuru can't win unless Girantina makes a major mistake like entering Rimuru's territory where he can have infinite clones with the same abilities as him. (We are sure that Giratina would not do such a thing.)