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Unbeatable Slime meets a Pokémon God
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Starfeldway
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again rimuru exist in one universe even if you watch over time and space.....There's infinite time and infinite space in Pokémon as well as countless to likely infinite universes
Arceus watches over the Pokémon cosmology, as mentioned in the anime, and can assist if need be.
He's seen the match happen yes.
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Who talked... about higher dimensional? Both are 4D tho, if Arceus is smurf, then the match should not exist…
So you are implying that resistance negation that only showed in the series to be baseline, able to negate infinite layered resistance? Because this sounds NLF rn.
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Arceus also nullifies time stuff upscaling from Dialga
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Doesn't Mewtwo have time stop too in it's shadow form?It still doesn't matter
Arceus > Giratina > Dialga > Celebi > fodder Pokémon who have time stop
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You should've said Arceus has passive precognition via upscaling from Alakazam or having Passive madness type 3
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No one talked about higher-dimensions. So sorry that I decided to add a little bit more information to my description of how resistances function then was required.
Do you consider Durability Negation a no-limit fallacy, because Resistance Negation works under the same principles. Resistance Negtaion is like Durbaility Negation, in that unless their is higher-dimensions or resistance to the negation, then it is just going bypass right through regardless of how strong the defence (durability/resistance) is.
And those higher-dimension and resistances to the negation are the key, their is indeed a limit to what it can do.
Also, Arceus is a smurf. Type 9 Immortality on it's Low 1-C self.
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Pretty sure time stop will be useless when Arceus has layered time stop itself and has the ability to null time stop via Dialga
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He said incap is allowed
Which means type 9 is kinda useless here
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I thought you meant Arceus. But apologies for rush response.
Not really, one is based/relied on tiers (Durability negation on 2-A level < Durability negation on low 1-C level) while resistance negation is based on layers (excluding higher dimensional resistance negation because higher D is always > lower D).
So, you are impying infinite layers of resistance (layered resistance) are no way to deal against a resistance negation that only showed to work on 2 layers? This sounds NLF right now.
Yes, I admit using this instance (durability negation) was wrong in the first place.
I thought we don't include this. If then, Rimuru has no way to deal to this.
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Should have named resistance immunity or immunity to resistance lol then ;/
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ok on Rimurus stuff
NEP, Transduality type 1, etc all get bypassed, Arceus can easily hit through all of it
Rimurus Acasuality type 4 is not as layered as what Arceus can effect
All of Arceus stuff is super layered in terms of sealing for an example Arceus>Giratinas True Form>Giratina>Cyrus’s Red Chain>The Origin Ball>Dialga/Palkia>OG red Chain>A ton of other much weaker seals
Mindhax is something like Arceus>A tiny fragment of his power>Hoopa Unbounds Mindhax>Shadow Hoopas Mindhax>The Entire CT>Giratinas Resistence>Cyrus Red Chain>Dialga and Palkia Resistence>Entire Lake Trio>Enraged Dialga/Palkia Resistence>Shena Mindhax> Dialga/Palkia Resistence>2 Lake Trio Members>1 Lake Trio Member>Literally the rest of mindhax in the verse
Arceus’s Resistence Negation is also layered (around 2-3 layers beyond baseline). Also the baseline Nulls immunities in verse
anyways this is probably a stomp as Arceus has easy ways to incap (simply BFR beyond 2-A, seal, Mindhax) and Rimuru can’t do anything past his Null
For what it effects (Abstract stuff, Spatial, Elemental, Spiritual, Nonexistence, Incorporeal, etc) is all basic Pokemon NPI then CT can hit type 1 concepts on top of that as well as a few other things
NEP, Transduality type 1, etc all get bypassed, Arceus can easily hit through all of it
Rimurus Acasuality type 4 is not as layered as what Arceus can effect
All of Arceus stuff is super layered in terms of sealing for an example Arceus>Giratinas True Form>Giratina>Cyrus’s Red Chain>The Origin Ball>Dialga/Palkia>OG red Chain>A ton of other much weaker seals
Mindhax is something like Arceus>A tiny fragment of his power>Hoopa Unbounds Mindhax>Shadow Hoopas Mindhax>The Entire CT>Giratinas Resistence>Cyrus Red Chain>Dialga and Palkia Resistence>Entire Lake Trio>Enraged Dialga/Palkia Resistence>Shena Mindhax> Dialga/Palkia Resistence>2 Lake Trio Members>1 Lake Trio Member>Literally the rest of mindhax in the verse
Arceus’s Resistence Negation is also layered (around 2-3 layers beyond baseline). Also the baseline Nulls immunities in verse
anyways this is probably a stomp as Arceus has easy ways to incap (simply BFR beyond 2-A, seal, Mindhax) and Rimuru can’t do anything past his Null
simply lets them hit the opponent like normal NPI.
For what it effects (Abstract stuff, Spatial, Elemental, Spiritual, Nonexistence, Incorporeal, etc) is all basic Pokemon NPI then CT can hit type 1 concepts on top of that as well as a few other things
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Why debating? The match is lost once @Everything12 said the dude is smurf with immortality type 9 5D
Starfeldway
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doesn't mean anything
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I'm thinking Arceus and Anos are on the same tier in 2-B
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Arceus 5D type 9 immortality in 2-B and 2-A is the reason why nobody can ever use it along with being a smurf
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Resistance to resistance negation makes no sense if @Everything12 is saying true about no "layered resistance negation”.
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Done
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I think it's easier to say this is an Inconclusive match than rambling on about this much further. Not for the reasons above, but because the reasons above are leading to more questions than answers. Then again, this is a wiki that legit thinks a mech with an officially-recorded linear size (STTGL) is 11-D sizewise, so wouldn't surprise me if people here are having a hard time figuring out whether a slime and a god-llama can beat each other or not.
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idk what he talked above, but I am still concerned about AP/immortality 5D
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Arceus fra
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He has
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