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Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋
- Thread starter Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Inb4 a Touhou powerscaling nerd goes "Actually, Sakuya has 23 passives, 47 soul cucking methods, scales to shittoversal but the wiki hasn't accepted it yet, but it's true, trust me. Therefore Sakuya slams Hit by merely staring at him too hard" (This is how debating Touhou matchups feels nowadays)
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Oh yeah I forgot, Archie Tails and Ran Yakumo is a decent and debatable MU. If the infinite speed thread for games sonic passes, it's likely the Archie continuity would scale to it meaning Tails wouldn't immediately get blitzed
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Why is Tails vs Ran a thing? Are they even similar at all? Tails is more similar to Nitori than Ran if anything.
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Idk something about them being extremely intelligent multiple tailed fox characters who are extremely loyal to someone (Sonic and Yukari).
Nothing the Touhou verse hasn't seen mostly, although layered conceptual destruction is pretty busted.
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I dunno, i think Ran would win, but i know Sonic as a verse is pretty hax heavy
Oh yeah, theres also Okina vs Stephen (SMT)
Okina kinda dies lol
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Ah, one of the reasons I hate how matchups are created nowadays. Stretching connections to make characters seem more similar. Other than loyalty, the relationship between Sonic and Tails is very different from Yukari and Ran.
Sonic and Tails are equals, best friends, they're in a relationship of mutual respect
Yukari is Ran's master and beats her with a newspaper like a dog or something. I am pretty sure Ran is Yukari's slave or something like that. Not really love or friendship.
(Also Ran is way lamer than other Touhou characters. IDK why anyone would want to see Ran fight)
I like that matchup.
Based, Okina sucks.
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What about Junko? I'd assume there'd be a lot of vengeful type characters that could have a good fight with her.
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Okina does not suck, L take
I know the whole relationship of Yukari/Ran/Chen is basically master/slave, but im pretty sure Yukari treats them with at least some respect. I mean hell, Yukari generally treats others with a modicum of respect, or just ***** with them. But yeah. Yukari isnt a cold hearted asshole
Junko? make her fight Junko (Danganronpa) because funny
I know the whole relationship of Yukari/Ran/Chen is basically master/slave, but im pretty sure Yukari treats them with at least some respect. I mean hell, Yukari generally treats others with a modicum of respect, or just ***** with them. But yeah. Yukari isnt a cold hearted asshole
Junko? make her fight Junko (Danganronpa) because funny
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I thought of Kratos since
both had their family get killed because of gods
both seek vengeance against gods
both are godkillers
I also heard of Junko vs Spamtom (Though I am pretty sure only one person shills that matchup) and Junko vs Granolah.
Yuh-uh she sucks, I could go on a paragraphs long rant about why Okina sucks.
Yeah but my point is that the relationship between Sonic and Tails and the relationship between Yukari and Ran aren't remotely similar at all. Sure, Yukari treats her slave well but that's not comparable to the relationship between best friends.
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Cirno vs Trixie? What's the gist behind that matchup? My sister bullied me when I got caught watching MLP so I don't know anything about the series
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I saw the previews of the next CDS chapter. Yuugi went from a twig to a muscular Amazonian girl. I wonder if the fans will go wild over ultra muscular Yuugi being canon?
I saw the previews on Twitter. I am too lazy to link them, find them yerself lel ;p
A friend said CDS is a manga that sticks closely to the fanon design interpretations of the characters. I wonder if that's true? I haven't paid mind. I turn off my brain when I read CDS 'cuz I won't need it.
I saw the previews on Twitter. I am too lazy to link them, find them yerself lel ;p
A friend said CDS is a manga that sticks closely to the fanon design interpretations of the characters. I wonder if that's true? I haven't paid mind. I turn off my brain when I read CDS 'cuz I won't need it.
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In Archie is different considering that Sonic said to Tails parents face that the kid worships him and would listen to him, plus there's other shitty stuff.
Though Game Sonic got many upgrades recently so you can just use Game Tails and ditch Archie Tails probably.
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It sounds like the Archie Comics wrote Sonic and Tails' relationship badly. I don't know why the writers thought that was a good idea.
I'd rather have that. I know game Tails more than Archie Tails.
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Fuji is temporarily banned, I am pretty sure.
I don't know how strong Seija is in this wiki, but I always recommend throwing every crappy matchup idea against the wall and see which one sticks to it. Try everything you have in mind, worry about the consequences later.
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That's a tomorrow.
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I don't know if I would equate Ran to a slave of all things because Ran actually cares about Yukari. Ran's referred to as a tool by her, but also Yukari is the most hard-to-read character in the damn verse; practically everything she does is either on a pure whim or part of her own convoluted machinations. Other times to it's just to **** with people (the entirety of SSiB). It's hard to tell if she truly feels that way, honestly. I'd go out on a limb to say that Yukari sincerely loves her as one would a close relative at the bare minimum, but doesn't show it. Entrusting Gensokyou to Ran while sleeping all day is some serious trust lmao.
Plus there's also Chen who's referred to as a "pet", and "cat". She isn't even called "Chen Yakumo", it's just Chen. I don't know how you can get lower than that as a Shikigami tbh.
Need I say more?
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Didn't Yukari brainwash Ran to become her shikigami? Like, install a new personality or something. Correct me if I am wrong.
Either way, slave is a harsh word to describe the relationship between Ran and Yukari. Ran is just a property of Yukari, is forced to work for Yukari and doesn't get paid :>
Eitherer way, the power imbalance between Ran and Yukari is why I dislike Ran vs Tails. It's not a relationship comparable to Sonic and Tails' relationship.
It sounds very unethical to have a humanoid with human intelligence as a pet but Yukari is one of my favorite characters so I will defend every warcrime she does.
Need I say more?
Ah, I forgot Ran throws Chen at her opponents and that's something no one else in Touhou does.
There is an enormous amount of animation and fighting potential caused by the ability to throw a child at your opponents.
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Ahhh I forgot Yukari can throw Ran.
I haven't played PCB yet.
Unrelated but when I played as Ran in Touhou 19 I didn't realize she threw Chen until others pointed it out. I guess I let obvious details escape my grasp.
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It's not throwing as much as it is ordering her to attack. Since she can already hurl herself on her own at Yukari's Instruction and on her own (As seen in Imperishable Night and her midboss portion of PCB Phantasm respectively). Ironically enough, it's sort of a portrayed as a spin-attack.
I say "throwing her" jokingly here. IN demonstrates Ran goes spinny on command.
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I understand that, I was making a joke. My joke being unfunny is another thing.
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It's abandonware go grab ittt
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Very few people know touhou, and those who know touhou either agrees or disagrees with the powerscaling ( especially if it comes from the site ).
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It's either overestimating or underestimating, no in between. Though tbf I can somewhat understand since touhou is not the most straightforward verse for vs debating. I just stick to Len'en due to simplicity
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Yeah, but there are thankfully some matchups that are at least somewhat debatable. Like for example, Seija Kijin vs Frieza.
Its basically a whole thing of AP vs Hax, though, in this case, Hax wins (though you could argue for Frieza being able to one shot via getting close enough)
Its basically a whole thing of AP vs Hax, though, in this case, Hax wins (though you could argue for Frieza being able to one shot via getting close enough)
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