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A passive aura which overwhelms the opponent and makes them want to submit to him and give up everything brought about by his existence as a "Transcendant" being.So since Mujin leads with word-based paralysis, what stops Announcer from just thinking and removing Mujin through plot-based erasure/BFR due to Budget Cuts?
He has inorganic type two and is a life-less robot. So yeah, it doesn't have a conventional mind.Assuming a robot doesn't have a mind???
are disciples and angelos technology basedIt's not Conceptual but Mujin's abilities effect mindless things like disciples and Angelos so it wouldn't matter.
Mindless as in?It's not Conceptual but Mujin's abilities effect mindless things like disciples and Angelos so it wouldn't matter.
Why would it be irrelevant?The technological aspect is quite literally irrelevant.
....No? They can most certainly be equivalated. While there is a sharp difference between a technological mindless being and a biological mindless being, they are still, in the end, beings that lack a conventional mind from a normal consciousness. One being made from technology and one being made from "flesh" doesn't effect this, and you'd have to make an assumption to assume it would.Why would it be irrelevant?
They are completely different things that would "think" differently and thus couldn't be equivalated.
Do the disciples and Angelo's lack all consciousness? And do they also lack a biological brain?....No? They can most certainly be equivalated. While there is a sharp difference between a technological mindless being and a biological mindless being, they are still, in the end, beings that lack a conventional mind from a normal consciousness. One being made from technology and one being made from "flesh" doesn't effect this, and you'd have to make an assumption to assume it would.
The Announcer doesn't lack "all consciousness" to begin with, or it wouldn't be able to act in anyway, so this question is irrelevant. It has a consciousness just an unconventional one that allows it to perform actions, as all Type 2 Inorganics do.Do the disciples and Angelo's lack all consciousness?
And do you have scans for their mindlessness and lack of consciousness as well?
I was referring to conventional consciousness. As in, the consciousness that living beings have.The Announcer doesn't lack "all consciousness" to begin with, or it wouldn't be able to act in anyway, so this question is irrelevant. It has a consciousness just an unconventional one that allows it to perform actions, as all Type 2 Inorganics do.
The "thought" and "mind" of a machine is based on files, patterns, date. Trying to affect the mind of such a being is equivalent to trying to affect the mind of a complex stone.The technological aspect is quite literally irrelevant.
I'm not trying to do that, I'm trying to equivalate the lack there-of.I was referring to conventional consciousness. As in, the consciousness that living beings have.
I don't think you can equivalate technological conscious and living conscious.
Angelos and disciples seem to literally be hollow when blown apart, so, yesAnd also, do the Angelos have brains? Are their heads empty?
So I have to prove Mujin can effect data...? Given he can literally effect Type 2 Information I don't think this matters-The "thought" and "mind" of a machine is based on files, patterns, date. Trying to affect the mind of such a being is equivalent to trying to affect the mind of a complex stone.
Affecting the mind of a brainless but biologic being basically shows that Mujin's mind control affects at a deeper level the biology of the body than just the brain
I also remember a scan where it's shown that high-ranking Gods are literally just made of Rock, but It'd take me a while to dig that up.Angelos and disciples seem to literally be hollow when blown apart, so, yes
So I have to prove Mujin can effect data...? Given he can literally effect Type 2 Information I don't think this matters-
wdym.I'm not trying to do that, I'm trying to equivalate the lack there-of.
"No" what. You didn't answer my question.Type 1 Information a wanked way to say that you warp reality
But no, both are diffent types for a reason
Okay, so, again, Mujin just needs to be able to effect data???wdym.
Announcer has a consciousness, it's just based on technological shit like data, info, files n shit.
No idea, but they aren't made to be controlled.And also, are the Angelos specifically made to be controlled or anything like that? Like where exactly do they come from.
No.And is there any other reason he might be able to influence them narratively or is it just because of the aura?
Scans of what.And do you have scans of that?
I did, actually. Type 1 Information is based on controling the information of the reality, while Type 2 is based on controling the information of things such the date of a computer"No" what. You didn't answer my question
Don't you mean the other way around...? Type 1 Information is Data, Type 2 is reality.I did, actually. Type 1 Information is based on controling the information of the reality, while Type 2 is based on controling the information of things such the date of a computer
He would need to be capable of affecting people who use type 1 information as a median for consciousness with his aura.... Which is pretty specific.Okay, so, again, Mujin just needs to be able to effect data???
Of his aura making them submit to him or whatever it is.Scans of what
Oh. Gimme a sec.Of his aura making them submit to him or whatever it is.
No-He would need to be capable of affecting people who use type 1 information as a median for consciousness with his aura.... Which is pretty specific.
Are you really gonna make me waste a comment to say yesDon't you mean the other way around...? Type 1 Information is Data, Type 2 is reality.
Here's Mujin (and Mori) being able to compel disciples to bow to them without even saying anything.