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The Revival Of Tarouverse

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Highness said:
I agree with 5D and 6D. because it's pretty good, But other than that, I'm neutral.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
I agree with atleast 5D. And neutral on high complex scale. More like leaning towards agreeing
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I will clarify for those who are neutral with digits yet.

3digits(6d) are brahman that alone is enough to prove one higher dimension. And 2digits(7d) are higher existence of Brahman because of how they hold Brahman's existence since birth only.
This should be enough to prove 3digits Brahman are inferior to 2digits higher existence Brahman and to prove more transcendence over the digits.
Also, shiroyasha stated she is one of the(note: there are more like her) highest beings in the existence and the most powerful brahman.
 
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No clue why I did not get pinged here, but I will respond shortly. I am wondering why people are agreeing to 8D despite the fact that there is no qualitative superiority in any form in the verse except for the creator who can be arguably to be higher dimensionality.
 
Dread said:
No clue why I did not get pinged here, but I will respond shortly. I am wondering why people are agreeing to 8D despite the fact that there is no qualitative superiority in any form in the verse except for the creator who can be arguably to be higher dimensionality.
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I am dealing with MG profiles right now, after I am done. I will respond shortly. Sorry for advance.
 
Dread said:
It is better to read the whole post, also when I read it, I understood your disagreement on 5D. My apologies in my side
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I meant more for the stuff outside of Little Garden's relationship with the multiverse.

And I prefer to have all the quotes be in a single post without any summaries or unnecessary quotes in the way of evaluating the quotes that they think serve as evidence of a qualitative difference.
 
Everything12 said:
I meant more for the stuff outside of Little Garden's relationship with the multiverse.

And I prefer to have all the quotes be in a single post without any summaries or unnecessary quotes in the way of evaluating the quotes that they think serve as evidence of a qualitative difference.
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The point is why I don't prefer this is because the quotes itself could qualify without looking at the context around.
 
Everything12 said:
I meant more for the stuff outside of Little Garden's relationship with the multiverse.

And I prefer to have all the quotes be in a single post without any summaries or unnecessary quotes in the way of evaluating the quotes that they think serve as evidence of a qualitative difference.
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Did you read the OP?
 
Everything12 said:
Their is alot of stuff irrelevant to qualitative superiority in the blogs and a lack of actual quotes in the opening post.
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If you read the whole blog, you would see only the creator due to his nature, name and his omnipotence can get a possibly rating 5D.
But again, I really prefer reading the entire blog, the context should not be ignored.
 
Dread said:
If you read the whole blog, you would see only the creator due to his nature
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This nature being, because all that paradoxical alpha-omega bootstrap stuff isn't evidence of a qualitative difference.

This:
''Brahman connotes the highest universal principle. The unchanging, infinite, immanent, and transcendent reality which is the Divine Ground of all matter, energy, time, space, being, and everything beyond. Unchanging, permanent, highest reality.
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Is not a qualitative difference.

Dread said:
name
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Being a creator is not evidence of qualitative superiority.

Dread said:
and his omnipotence
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'Omnipotence' is not evidence of a qualitative difference.

Dread said:
can get a possibly rating 5D.
But again, I really prefer reading the entire blog, the context should not be ignored.
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If the context is essential to qualitative difference, then that counts as evidence that you post. If it isn't, and if it's a summary that gives your interpretation, then it's irrelevant.

Also
“According to this interpretation, One Digit can be said to be an incomplete spirit status with partial abilities. 「End Emptiness」 is the best example. It is a spirit body that granted 「Authority to end all worlds (tales)」 to all Omnipotent and Full Authority beings.”
“...That’s just, it isn’t an opponent in the dimension of winning or losing.”
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This is not sufficient evidence of a reality-fiction relationship without further context given on what this entails. Simply having an ability that describes worlds as tales is not evidence that you have higher qualitative position that views them as fiction in relation to yourself.
 
The creator stuff is my interpretation but also at the same I time I don't think it is qualitative superiority, I just wanted to offer a possible rating due to his transcendence is actually valid but also not sufficient.

The rest you said, I already gave my input and told OP. Everything you said is also what I intended to say.
Dread said:
Also, after I re-read the blog once again and here are my results. (sorry but I need to be honest rather of being dishonest)

I inherently disagree with Little Garden being 5D, and I honestly haven't seen unambiguous evidence of qualitative superiority.

After he mentions that the universes would look like particles, he explicates that this is because their “probability of existence” approaches 0.
And that is just a product of them being divided a lot of times. Anyway, anything equal or stronger than a 3 digit or a star spirit would be 2-A.

That is, they are viewed as particles because when one interferes with all of them they get divided infinitely.

The statement is pretty much the conception that when these guys observe all the universes simultaneously, they seem like particles (or even smaller).
However, this is not to be taken literally, because in the next phrase he clarifies that it's not that the Universes are small, it's that they get divided infinitely.

Outer Words are not infinite in size, they span to infinity. Means simply extend to infinity.

For the rest, I don't really see any mention of them having some kind of qualitative difference, except Omnipotence statements and such. 1-D digits and Barhman could arguably get 5D. A “possibly” rating should be sufficient.
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I even have issues with 1-Digits and this is the reason I think it is not quantifiable feat rather, just AP superiority
It seems that this text is discussing a concept called “One Digit” and its relationship to a spirit status known as “End Emptiness.” The text suggests that One Digit is an incomplete spirit status with partial abilities, and that End Emptiness is a spirit body that grants certain powers or abilities to Omnipotent and Full Authority beings. The text also mentions that End Emptiness is not an opponent that can be evaluated in terms of winning or losing.

Without further context, it is difficult to provide a more detailed explanation or interpretation of this text. It is possible that the text is part of a fictional or mythological narrative, or it could be referring to a specific system or concept within a particular field or discipline. Without more information, it is difficult to provide a more specific analysis or interpretation.
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Everything12 said:
This is not sufficient evidence of a reality-fiction relationship without further context given on what this entails. Simply having an ability that describes worlds as tales is not evidence that you have higher qualitative position that views them as fiction in relation to yourself.
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Is this not practically the same thread as the last only this one is saying 9-D or something when 5-D was almost rejected the last time
 
Pain_to12 said:
Is this not practically the same thread as the last only this one is saying 9-D or something when 5-D was almost rejected the last time
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Since when is the same when that one is about Discussion?
Dread said:
9D what 😭
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Okay. You can stop being a hypocrite now and use saying you are arguing but in reality, you are using someone else's arguments off-site ffs. People don't know this. but I'm tired of this bs. You always ask a certain user if you don't understand stuff. This is what you make such a hypocrite for changing opinion on the fly. And it's very annoying to do that. I'm off to take a break after this rant.
 
Dread said:
This is why I disagreed with it in the first place 💀

Read the blog entirely, if I only judged from the description, this would be high 1-B, but I am glad I re-read it, and now I agree with everything12
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More like you agree with Sen who happens to agree with Everything12 but no worries, it’s your divine right to change your mind over someone else’s opinion and won’t pursue such topic. Still beyond me how with the other scan can be interpreted in any other way but I am uninterested in going in circles with you, if one does not change their opinion within their first couple of replies it objectively just de-evolves into a waste of time. Therefore I am uninterested in continuing the argument with you.

If anyone new comes allong that’s a different though.

Pain_to12 said:
Is this not practically the same thread as the last only this one is saying 9-D or something when 5-D was almost rejected the last time
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Anyways— that was a scan dump respect thread and only based it around the size of the multiverse.
 
With that, we have a 5-D multiverse
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An infinite number of infinite sized multiverses is not equivalent to a five dimensional multiverse.

2-Digit's existence is greater than 3-Digit's existence making them 7-D.
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Not a qualitative superiority.

1-Digit's existence is far superior to both 1-Digit's & 2-Digit's existence making them 8-D. Brahman is a state where you can transcend all things in existence.
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Not a qualitative superiority.

Another Cosmology would be the topping the cosmology since they are the world themselves that built the Gods at the 1-Digit Domain. Their usage is the equivalent of a human using the universe itself to attack another human being, just that in these case is things like Asgard for the Norse Buddhism's three thousand worlds which makes Another Cosmology 9-D.
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Not a qualitative superiority.

Even if Little Garden and 3-Digits are 5D or whatever, this doesn't mean higher digits and Brahman and all that being superior to them means that their superiority can be assumed to be a qualitative one. You still not to prove that the difference in their existence is qualitative, which none of the stuff summarised in the opening post or quoted in the blog does.
 
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More like you agree with Sen who happens to agree with Everything12 but no worries, it’s your divine right to change your mind over someone else’s opinion and won’t pursue such topic. Still beyond me how with the other scan can be interpreted in any other way but I am uninterested in going in circles with you, if one does not change their opinion within their first couple of replies it objectively just de-evolves into a waste of time. Therefore I am uninterested in continuing the argument with you.

If anyone new comes allong that’s a different though.



Anyways— that was a scan dump respect thread and only based it around the size of the multiverse.
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I mean? I re-read the blog myself since I did not read it before, and I know the information through someone who is the one who described the cosmology himself. Furthermore, I only judged based on the information I got. Now that I have information/blog/quotes, me and Sen re-read it and found out the results to be antithetical.

Ya, it is my bad, but I had no source to view all the quotes since before the blog was not finished, plus I trusted the person that described it to be accurate enough.
 
Everything12 said:
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I would love to explain why you replying to Ritsu’s condensation of the ideas is wrong or why your assumptions such as us arguing from mathematical infinity*infinity is wrong but your dismissal for the reasons of dismissal are really cool and we already know your opinion on it. Thanks for your contributions and time. 🙏
 
Problemexe said:

I'm back from the dead. Yay.​

Introduction​

It's time to revive this verse.
Respect Thread link here where we discussed upon some stuff (The OP is dead (Not physically) btw).
New Cosmology Blog link here.
For you lazy heads out there who doesn't want to read the blog, I'll just post the TL;DR here below.

TL;DR​

  • Interchanging Parallel World Theory AKA the infinite Time-Axes = An infinite amount of multiverses. In the structure of the interchanging parallel world theory the infinity of a multiverse is simply the standard value. A standard value is the arbitrary value in one's scale as reference point to create a scale to measure of anything (Milliliters, meters, ect), meaning that to grasp the size of the parallel world theory infinity has to be treated as a finite value to measure the infiniteness of it's size as otherwise it cannot be grasped. This is also the only point at which they become treated as elementary particles which will always be the "ultimate constituent of substance" of existence so things before it, 4-D structures, are not even considered on such fundamental level. Do not mistake however, this is not an idea based on the idea of infinity^infinity^infinity but that these infinite structures are treated as finitely and absurdly small to the bigger structure as well.
  • Little Garden & Domains = A special type of world that views the infitinum of the parallel worlds as elementary particles. It's a higher level of existence yet as the playground for the Gods it is special in that it allows for the summoning of "regular" existences from the worlds in the lower domains thanks to it's layered existence nature with the higher domains existing in higher dimensions and having to descend to lower ones with avatars in order to not 'ef em up with their existence. The nature of this domains is shown to be of a qualitative difference as he 3-Digit domain is a higher-dimension who's residents originate as personification of phenomena from the material word yet are stand fully outside the influence of the material world. The material world refers to the interchanging parallel world theory's existence. This is also the true starting point of the existences that view the interchanging parallel world theory as elementary particles. Then the higher worlds of the higher digits have things like they being described as The Universal Truth Brahman in nature and is plain transcendence over the lower domains. Before the restrictions placed upon them in Little Garden the 2-Digit Domain and and 3-Digit domain were on the same level as the 1-Digit Domain, that only matters for the next part.
  • Outer Universe of Third Person View: The Little Garden is more than just nexus of all reality, it also defines past, present and future, with all history are originated from it, and infinite multiverses pilling within Little Garden like small particles. Meaning, the sheer size of Little Garden alone can dwarf the infinite-quantum multiversal hierarchy. In addition from Little Garden which is infinitely times bigger than infinite universe, there also exist higher dimensions/worlds which are the alternate cosmologies - realms for the gods resided, which even predated creation, destruction, alpha, omega, life and death, yin and yang,… It could be said that they are the highest planes of existence of Tarouverse.
  • With that, we have a 5-D multiverse and Little Garden is infinitely times bigger than infinite universes and sees them all as small and elementary particles making it 6-D. 3-Digit beings should scale on the degree of existence as the multiverse itself making them 6-D. 2-Digit's existence is greater than 3-Digit's existence making them 7-D. 1-Digit's existence is far superior to both 1-Digit's & 2-Digit's existence making them 8-D. Brahman is a state where you can transcend all things in existence. Another Cosmology would be the topping the cosmology since they are the world themselves that built the Gods at the 1-Digit Domain. Their usage is the equivalent of a human using the universe itself to attack another human being, just that in these case is things like Asgard for the Norse Buddhism's three thousand worlds which makes Another Cosmology 9-D.

Conclusion​

  • Multiverse (5-D)
  • Little Garden (6-D)
  • 3-Digit (6-D)
  • 2-Digit (7-D)
  • 1-Digit (8-D)
  • Another Cosmology (9-D)

Votes (Bold = Staff)​

Agree: (11) Satoshi23, OriginFox, Setsuna_tenma, Eishiro1, Enter_Bluey, EldemadeDityjon (5-D), Mugen_no_Setsuna, Highness (5-D & 6-D), Dattebayo, ChlammyMafahl, Shyouu

Disagree: (2) PDB123456789, Dread

Neutral: (2) EldemadeDityjon (6-D, 7-D, 8-D, & 9-D), Highness (7-D, 8-D, & 9-D)
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i agree
 
Problemexe said:
Interchanging Parallel World Theory AKA the infinite Time-Axes = An infinite amount of multiverses. In the structure of the interchanging parallel world theory the infinity of a multiverse is simply the standard value. A standard value is the arbitrary value in one's scale as reference point to create a scale to measure of anything (Milliliters, meters, ect), meaning that to grasp the size of the parallel world theory infinity has to be treated as a finite value to measure the infiniteness of it's size as otherwise it cannot be grasped. This is also the only point at which they become treated as elementary particles which will always be the "ultimate constituent of substance" of existence so things before it, 4-D structures, are not even considered on such fundamental level. Do not mistake however, this is not an idea based on the idea of infinity^infinity^infinity but that these infinite structures are treated as finitely and absurdly small to the bigger structure as well.
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You mean the standard value in this is about size??? Bruh the feats it self clearly talking about number of world not about size. It clearly talling about "add more world" by branching timeline. So i dont agree with this to be higher dimensional
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In general, the multiverse observed from the World of Little Garden isn’t “infinite parallel worlds”, but “infinite parallel worlds is merely a standard value”. It is not timelines branching from a singular universe similar to a great river, but able to observe simultaneously with infinite universes constantly to appear constantly to branch infinitely.
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Problemexe said:
Little Garden & Domains = A special type of world that views the infitinum of the parallel worlds as elementary particles.
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Little garden can have low 1C rating, because it view the 2A structure just like particle

Problemexe said:
  • 3-Digit
  • 2-Digit
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Not have proof for qualitative superiority to the lower structure, cant have higher tier

If any character can effect the whole little garden, sure they will have low 1C rating
 
And just a suggestion, its more better in your CRT add the feats with your argument rather than just add a argument and make people read the long blog for the proof
 
Fixxed said:
Not have proof for qualitative superiority to the lower structure, cant have higher tier

If any character can effect the whole little garden, sure they will have low 1C rating
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Brahman are proving the dimensionality difference between domains as the Brahman Universal Truth means transcendence.
Brahman connotes the highest universal principle. The unchanging, infinite, immanent, and transcendent reality which is the Divine Ground of all matter, energy, time, space, being, and everything beyond. Unchanging, permanent, highest reality.
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3digits are brahman that alone is enough to prove one higher dimension. And 2digits are higher existence of Brahman because of how they hold Brahman's existence since birth only.
This should be enough to prove 3digits Brahman are inferior to 2digits higher existence Brahman and to prove more transcendence over the digits.
“...There was no one in the two digit before?”

“No, there are four. They are the originals that held the existence of Brahman since birth. Their structure were completely different from us. Even now, including Gau****, there were about seventeen inside?”

It meant that most of the place were still empty. So many gods and buddhas were gathered, but only seventeen spots were filled in the two digits
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Also, shiroyasha stated she is one of the(note: there are more like her) highest beings in the existence and the most powerful brahman.
She is the champion of the Sun Sovereignty War, one of the highest existence among the gods of the Little Garden. The most powerful Brahman, who patrons all things since the dawn of creation to this very day.
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Naw it does not mean any shit if you don't prove it is also qualitative superiority
 
Everything12 said:
Qualitive superiority is a specific thing, and all this universal truth and transcendence stuff does not qualify for the specific kind of superiority that a qualitative difference requires.
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Thanks for clarification
 
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