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Rules:
No kryptonite
No fire
Win Condition: knockout or death
I also ask that u put your reasoning alongside who wins
I personally vote Superman
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Why do u think supes winWe got to see a glimps of this in trinity war but superman had a kryptonite shard in his brain.
Rules:
No kryptonite
No fire
Win Condition: knockout or death
I also ask that u put your reasoning alongside who wins
I personally vote Superman
I don’t think he resists mind manip. How hot is supes heat vision(ik I’m reaching here)Clark. Generally stronger and faster, resists J’ohn’s big boy options and can exploit his fire weakness
I think I saw it being 900 000 000 Celsius somewhereI don’t think he resists mind manip. How hot is supes heat vision(ik I’m reaching here)
Because supes is resistant to majority if not all of mm’s hax. And we saw zod blitz and knock out mm even when he had hawk man and vibe helpingWhy do u think supes win
Why not do bothIs this with SBA (aka willing to kill), or fully in character?
He actually is.I don’t think he resists mind manip. How hot is supes heat vision(ik I’m reaching here)
Couldn’t it just be round 1 and 2You can't, it's either or for one thread.
WdymVS threads with rounds can't be added to pages, but if you don't care about that sure.
Ok then I guess in character is fine here cuz blood lusted would be too one sided. What are your thoughts on this match up tho?
Actually no. When superman is conscious about u having mind Hax which he is in this case, he can break out of itAnyway, I think that with them being in-character Superman will probably pull his punches a little but he still has his speed advantage. If MMH can't track him then he would struggle to use his powers, if that makes sense, and he would be able to put MMH down pretty quick. But MMH can just kinda mindhax, can't he?
He doesn’t have better reactions imo. He got blitzed by zod.Yeah his mindhax is wayyyyy faster. Plus got better reactions
Yeah back then, but since then he got upgraded. Look at him in Snyder's JLHe doesn’t have better reactions imo. He got blitzed by zod.
What feats does he have and also shouldn’t he get another key if he became that much stronger?Yeah back then, but since then he got upgraded. Look at him in Snyder's JL
If he just started using his hax more then it’s not a physical amp like u made it seem. Also, what are his featsNot really? Unless we start downgrading new 52 to tier 5 and remove 4b scaling. Rn they pretty much sales to the same values for practically everything.
Also I don't see the need for another key, just started using his hax more instead of not.
Yeah they can both be 4B but in verse scaling superman has been shown to be stronger physically and from what I remember he saved John many times against those giants from snyders jlIts speed related, and it's on his file already.
As for physicals... He compares to the same value essentially. They all scale to the same 4-B stuff rn
Yes. He blitzed Martian Manhunter. There is no confirmed amp so all this would mean was his rebirth feats would scale to his new 52 since it’s the same character. He was also shown to react to and harm superman who can tag flash.Can you prove Zod can move faster than those that can react at planck time? Well, no because his feats are lower than that from what I can remember. So...
You’re the one who’s assuming he got a power up tho. Just because I have a feat now doesn’t mean I was weaker in the past. There is no statement of Mmh getting stronger or faster and he is also not shown training or anything. The wiki accepts zod blitzing mmh as post flashpoint and not just new 52 which is what this vsbattle is based on if I’m not mistaken. If u think that new 52 doesn’t scale to rebirth or smth then make a thread to sort it out but for now can we move on to smth else?If he didn't show it back then, you can't just assume bruh