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So we all know a while back when the 2-C revisions came in and Kirby got this pretty cool 2-C rating. What if I told you the 2-C rating was way higher into the tier than thought of
So our current ratings have Post-RTDL Kirby at 4-A, likely 2-C. He’s around 16 universes into the tier and Void Termina (and to an extent Galacta Knight) scale 4x this (since it took the combined power of 4 allies to beat Void Termina)
After looking around, there are probably far more universes than what meets the eye, and I potential way to get a flat out 2-C rating instead of likely 2-C
Some of the pretty obvious examples we can go for are the twitter posts stating that Another Dimension was collapsing. It’s a pretty straight forward point for this one
There might have been more posts but that’s the one I could find
There’s also the fact that the Dimensional Wall has completely no sign of stopping. It was destroyed after Kirby beat the Doomers but since it stopped early on, there’s no seeing how far it would’ve gone. It’s safe to say it was going to affect each dimension in it’s entirety, since it would keep moving onwards. Rating will vary depending on what is agreed with in the end
So there are way more dimensions Magolor could’ve affected than just the 16.
Vortexes
You know those spider web vortex thingies you find in practically every dimension? Yea, those lead to other universes
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It should be noted that one of these vortexes are in Forgotten Land when Kirby gets sent from Popstar to the New World. In the Doomer Worlds, these vortexes are shown sucking up planets, which shows these vortexes naturally behave like pathways like done in FL.
Considering every dimension has it’s own space-time, it’s safe to say the vortexes all lead to different universes. This is backed up by the fact that the final dimension leads to more universes, with the vortexes being the natural pathways
With this reasoning, given how every dimension has several of these, with each going to different universes, there are probably countless different universes possible in the cosmology. Each dimension always leads to a different one to put it short
If the faded out alternate planets in Another Dimension are anything to account for, like blurred Halcandra, this could potentially signal that other universes are being passed by. This is also somewhat shown with the new remake showing spheres around clearer planets. Me being someone with too much time, I counted a majority of the planets (didn’t get through them all) but there are at least over 40 different possible dimensions you fly by. These could easily be dismissed as planets flying around but it’s not too far flung that these could be alternate universes (given there are other Halcandra like planets visible)
The Minimum and Maximum Number of Universes
Minimum:
Just to get a few numbers down, here’s every known universe linked to Another Dimension
Main Universe
Magolors Universe
15 Doomer Dimensions
The one Kirby fought Magolor in
Likely Magolor Race EX
Dimensions I, II, III, and IV
Final Dimension
The Forgotten Land
3 to possibly 57 Treasure Roads (Vortexes shown in every treasure road here. Unknown whether each treasure road is separate or linked to one vortex The later ones have some mysterious dark webs leading to dark globs. Could mean something)
Adding these up is around 25 to 82 known universes alone, not even counting the other vortexes, which are a whole other can of worms. If the alternate planets are agreed as universes, add the exact amount of alternate planets to whichever one that contains a minimum proposal.
Maximum:
Considering how there are so many vortexes in each and every universe, including Kirby’s and each vortex leading to different dimensions, I’d consider this an easy countless 2-B cosmology.
With this all out of the way, here are the proposals:
Proposal 1
- 2-C Rating will be flat out, no likelys
- Scaling to Minimum # (25 to 82 universes into 2-C for each Star Ally, 100 to 328 for Void Termina)
- Vortexes don’t lead to other universes
- Magolor affects the entirety of AD
- Deciding number of Treasure Road vortexes needs to be determined
Proposal 2
- 2-B is flat out
- Scaling to Maximum # is used (Everyone is 2-B)
- Vortexes do lead to other universes
- Magolor Destroys AD
Proposal 3 and 4
- Proposal 3 keeps the same as Proposal 1, and 4 does the same with 2, except we keep the likely 2-C/2-B rating instead of making it flat out 2-C
Proposal 5:
- Everything is the same
- Magolor doesn’t destroy all of AD
- Vortexes don’t lead to other universes
Yea, this is a pretty big thread, read all you can
The Current Ratings
So our current ratings have Post-RTDL Kirby at 4-A, likely 2-C. He’s around 16 universes into the tier and Void Termina (and to an extent Galacta Knight) scale 4x this (since it took the combined power of 4 allies to beat Void Termina)
After looking around, there are probably far more universes than what meets the eye, and I potential way to get a flat out 2-C rating instead of likely 2-C
Justifying How Magolor was going to destroy all of Another Dimension:
Some of the pretty obvious examples we can go for are the twitter posts stating that Another Dimension was collapsing. It’s a pretty straight forward point for this one
Kirby: Specific translations
vsbattles.fandom.com
There might have been more posts but that’s the one I could find
There’s also the fact that the Dimensional Wall has completely no sign of stopping. It was destroyed after Kirby beat the Doomers but since it stopped early on, there’s no seeing how far it would’ve gone. It’s safe to say it was going to affect each dimension in it’s entirety, since it would keep moving onwards. Rating will vary depending on what is agreed with in the end
The Size of Another Dimension:
So there are way more dimensions Magolor could’ve affected than just the 16.
Vortexes
You know those spider web vortex thingies you find in practically every dimension? Yea, those lead to other universes
1:08
It should be noted that one of these vortexes are in Forgotten Land when Kirby gets sent from Popstar to the New World. In the Doomer Worlds, these vortexes are shown sucking up planets, which shows these vortexes naturally behave like pathways like done in FL.
Considering every dimension has it’s own space-time, it’s safe to say the vortexes all lead to different universes. This is backed up by the fact that the final dimension leads to more universes, with the vortexes being the natural pathways
With this reasoning, given how every dimension has several of these, with each going to different universes, there are probably countless different universes possible in the cosmology. Each dimension always leads to a different one to put it short
If the faded out alternate planets in Another Dimension are anything to account for, like blurred Halcandra, this could potentially signal that other universes are being passed by. This is also somewhat shown with the new remake showing spheres around clearer planets. Me being someone with too much time, I counted a majority of the planets (didn’t get through them all) but there are at least over 40 different possible dimensions you fly by. These could easily be dismissed as planets flying around but it’s not too far flung that these could be alternate universes (given there are other Halcandra like planets visible)
The Minimum and Maximum Number of Universes
Minimum:
Just to get a few numbers down, here’s every known universe linked to Another Dimension
Main Universe
Magolors Universe
15 Doomer Dimensions
The one Kirby fought Magolor in
Likely Magolor Race EX
Dimensions I, II, III, and IV
Final Dimension
The Forgotten Land
3 to possibly 57 Treasure Roads (Vortexes shown in every treasure road here. Unknown whether each treasure road is separate or linked to one vortex The later ones have some mysterious dark webs leading to dark globs. Could mean something)
Adding these up is around 25 to 82 known universes alone, not even counting the other vortexes, which are a whole other can of worms. If the alternate planets are agreed as universes, add the exact amount of alternate planets to whichever one that contains a minimum proposal.
Maximum:
Considering how there are so many vortexes in each and every universe, including Kirby’s and each vortex leading to different dimensions, I’d consider this an easy countless 2-B cosmology.
With this all out of the way, here are the proposals:
Proposal 1
- 2-C Rating will be flat out, no likelys
- Scaling to Minimum # (25 to 82 universes into 2-C for each Star Ally, 100 to 328 for Void Termina)
- Vortexes don’t lead to other universes
- Magolor affects the entirety of AD
- Deciding number of Treasure Road vortexes needs to be determined
Proposal 2
- 2-B is flat out
- Scaling to Maximum # is used (Everyone is 2-B)
- Vortexes do lead to other universes
- Magolor Destroys AD
Proposal 3 and 4
- Proposal 3 keeps the same as Proposal 1, and 4 does the same with 2, except we keep the likely 2-C/2-B rating instead of making it flat out 2-C
Proposal 5:
- Everything is the same
- Magolor doesn’t destroy all of AD
- Vortexes don’t lead to other universes
Yea, this is a pretty big thread, read all you can