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The Elder Scrolls Discussion Thread: RETURN FALSE Edition

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The most “metaphysical” elements of The Elder Scrolls lore are literally impossible to adapt to a live action media, because they are too abstract and interpretative, but that’s exactly what makes TES lore so unique, and what proves that TES is not “just another tolkean fantasy universe”, I honestly doubt a live action series could make a good job adapting this elements.
 
The_Narrator_of_Narrative said:
The most “metaphysical” elements of The Elder Scrolls lore are literally impossible to adapt to a live action media, because they are too abstract and interpretative, but that’s exactly what makes TES lore so unique, and what proves that TES is not “just another tolkean fantasy universe”, I honestly doubt a live action series could make a good job adapting this elements.
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i would also imagine they would cut some stuff cus TES is surprisingly ****** up too if u look hard enough
 
I think basical meataphysic stuff just a dragonbreak is easy to adaptive it's not litterally abstract hardly
 
Lapsad said:
I think basical meataphysic stuff just a dragonbreak is easy to adaptive it's not litterally abstract hardly
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"While you were fighting wars with phantoms and giving birth to your own fathers"

would be kind of hard to put a dragonbreak considering all the mess you have to deal in order to understand what is even happening
 
There is so hard if the director has never reading them , was i siad it easy because its simply more than other metaphysicals , also yes they will be mess of complicate scene ever on the film
 
Lapsad said:
Whah H1A CHIM that plausible ?
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i heard of it on the discord, i would assume is because

aurbis is infinite 1-A realms then the next wheel is infinitely greater and it goes on thro infinity and CHIM user if memory serve right are suppose to transcend the while tower
 
Lapsad said:
Where's the discord you was ?


Hhhh i was saw ultima siad the aurbis has multiple realm not infinite
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it seems to be a discord for the wiki

from what i remember it went something like this

nirn = low 2-C
Mundus = low 1-C
oblivion = high 1-B
aetherius = High 1-B
Aurbis = infinite 1-A realms
Tower of wheels = 1-A+
sithis and anu-el = high 1-A
Anu and padomay = High 1-A
amaranth state = 0
 
You are on that discord ? , may i can join ?

I belive most of it is correct , but if the aurbis has infinite realm stacking inside it those should be 1-A + , but agian the thread never told us what the aurbis had infinite realm they just siad multiple , ultima were't sure how many them inside
 
Lapsad said:
You are on that discord ? , may i can join ?

I belive most of it is correct , but if the aurbis has infinite realm stacking inside it those should be 1-A + , but agian the thread never told us what the aurbis had infinite realm they just siad multiple , ultima were't sure how many them inside
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"relms beyond Varying degrees of 1-A"

is what i found,
 
Lapsad said:
Then CHIM could be partially on 1-A +
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basically the aurbis is infinite realms of 1-A (some bigger and others smaller but still 1-A)

then the next wheel is greater and the next is even greater and on it goes.

so i would say they are infinitely into 1-A+ due to CHIM users being above the tower
 
I agree with chim is far great on 1-A + , though i found something will be more interesting is numidium can refute thing off godhead dream this is a same method as chimster use to erase themselves , should numi have a H1A EE ?
 
Lapsad said:
I agree with chim is far great on 1-A + , though i found something will be more interesting is numidium can refute thing off godhead dream this is a same method as chimster use to erase themselves , should numi have a H1A EE ?
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if they get H1A so will numi (also i personaly think yes)
 
------ ALDMERI/AYLEID RULE ------

Middle Merethic ? The bird-men of the Heartlands are driven out. The White-Gold Tower is constructed and the proto-Imperial City begins to form under Aldmeri rule.

------ ALESSIAN (FIRST) EMPIRE ------

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1E 322(?) - after 1E 372 (50+ years) Ami-El Forced the last remaining Ayleids out of Cyrodiil.

?

1E 461 - after 1E 478 (17+ years) Gorieus Thought to have began the downfall of the Alessian Empire.

?

before 1E 1029 - after 1E 1033 (at least 4 years) Hestra Admits High Rock into the Empire. Improved the road system.

? Shor-El

------ REMAN DYNASTY OF THE SECOND EMPIRE ------

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1E 2762 - 1E 2804 (42 years) Kastav Deposed due to incompetence. Died in 1E 2812.

1E 2804 - 1E 2843 (39 years) Reman II Abolished necromancy and Daedra worship. Constructed Alduin's Wall. Annexed Black Marsh. Killed during the Four-Score War.

1E 2843 - 1E 2877 (34 years) Brazollus Dor During his reign, most affairs were run by Potentate Sidri-Ashak.

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circa 2E 542 - circa 2E 560 (about 20 years) Moricar the Middling, son of Durcorach

circa 2E 560 - 2E 577 (about 17 years) Leovic, son of Moricar Commissioned the Emperor's Guide to Tamriel. Decriminalized Daedra worship. Killed by Varen Aquilarios.

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2E 577 - 2E 579 (2 years) Varen Aquilarios, Duke of Chorrol Led a rebellion against Leovic. Formed the Five Companions. Vanished during the Soulburst.

2E 579 - 2E 582 (3 years) Clivia Tharn, the Empress Regent, daughter of Abnur Tharn Manipulated by Mannimarco.

? ? ?

2E 852 - 2E 854 (2 years) Cuhlecain, King of Falkreath, Emperor Zero Not coronated. United the Colovian Estates. Murdered.

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3E 38 - 3E 40 (2 years) Pelagius Septim I, grandson of Tiber Septim Assassinated by the Dark Brotherhood.

3E 40 - 3E 53 (13 years) Kintyra Septim I, Queen of Silvenar, cousin of Pelagius I Patroness of art, music and dance.

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3E 99 - 3E 120 (21 years) Antiochus Septim, son of Pelagius II Reign known for civil wars.

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3E 140 - 3E 145 (5 years) Magnus Septim, son of Pelagius II Breton. Punished traitorous kings of the War of the Red Diamond.

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1. I think they could reach H1A personally

2. I dont think is even posible to do it and if they do it will be scaled back and be made super simplified so that people understand it
 
I have a funny thing to imagined what if all deadric prince can stacking thier power to infinite baseline but still compared , that mean if we have the prince who can taking control entire plane of oblivion how much stronger for such prince ?
 
I'm possibly late but didn't Kirkrbride state a few times that becoming an Amaranth is the next "level" of CHIM? I hope that supports the whole high 1-A CHIM users thing.
 
Well, Rada did fight the Goddess Leki in single combat for three days and won, yes, but I'm not sure you can scale her to the Warrior Celestial because they have very different origins (The Celestial Deities were created by the Nedes) and because the Yokudan Deities can take on human form. The Warrior Celestial also boasts that his Shehai is "Beyond First Rank", which is the highest level of Shehai among the Yokudan Sword-Saints.

Rada can use the Pankratosword though, when you fight him one of his lines is "Shall I show you the cut that sundered Yokuda?" He is also being empowered by the Dark Heart and absorbing Void Energy from outside the Aurbis through the complex Dwemer Machine, yes, but like all ESO Villains who have a plan to achieve ultimate power he is stopped before his plan can fully succeed. At full power he would become more powerful than Molag Bal and be High 1-B, yes, but that level is never reached so I think it's unjustifiable.

He'd be At least Low 2-C with The Dark Heart tho since he's an ESO Final Boss who the Vestige can beat on his own, with you needing to redirect the Dark Heart's own power against Rada to wound him and make him vulnerable.
 
Matthew_Schroeder said:
Well, Rada did fight the Goddess Leki in single combat for three days and won, yes, but I'm not sure you can scale her to the Warrior Celestial because they have very different origins (The Celestial Deities were created by the Nedes) and because the Yokudan Deities can take on human form. The Warrior Celestial also boasts that his Shehai is "Beyond First Rank", which is the highest level of Shehai among the Yokudan Sword-Saints.

Rada can use the Pankratosword though, when you fight him one of his lines is "Shall I show you the cut that sundered Yokuda?" He is also being empowered by the Dark Heart and absorbing Void Energy from outside the Aurbis through the complex Dwemer Machine, yes, but like all ESO Villains who have a plan to achieve ultimate power he is stopped before his plan can fully succeed. At full power he would become more powerful than Molag Bal and be High 1-B, yes, but that level is never reached so I think it's unjustifiable.

He'd be At least Low 2-C with The Dark Heart tho since he's an ESO Final Boss who the Vestige can beat on his own, with you needing to redirect the Dark Heart's own power against Rada to wound him and make him vulnerable.
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At least, I get something right.
I would propose him at High 6-A as an Ansei, and Low 2-C with the Dark Heart.
 
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