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More people agreeing doesn't make the upgrade valid, that is a blatant appeal to popularity fallacy, especially when the lot of you supporting it have demonstrated to not even know what you're talking about.Dragomer said:Anyway i'm tired and staff said no so i'm wasting my time, just don't wonder why people complain about the staff when everytime you do the same bulshit of going against what a majority agree with nothing but 'because i said so and have something else to do' and that's ignoring that one guy who keep goading people.
Also the tentative to derail the thread into a staff pity party were really ******* obvious, my dudes.
And i hate your word filter, peace.
^DragonEmperor23 said:Assuming that the Low 2-C upgrade doesn't go through, would the characters receive NPI via being able to destroy ghosts with their shockwaves and range upgrades for being able to reach other dimensions with them? If I'm understanding what the Counter arguments are for the proposed Low 2-C feats correctly.
Also IIRC, AKM did say that U7 was the exact same across all the DB continuity. That would make the 4D walls between the Macrocosm and the Kai realm more legit.Zamasu Chan said:You see this scan, they're assuming there's time space that surrounds this but were never shown that. This scan shows a bunch of stars, no Kaioshin realm and no afterlife; they're nowhere to be seen. So this is likely the mortal universe sealed inside the bottom of the Macrocosm. It's more likely to be the mortal universe because A, the mortal universe is said to resemble a real life one, and B, assuming the Macrocosm is inside that blue universe is head canon. This is my interpretation on it. And no one still deconstructed the actual difference between a numbered universe and a Kai realm outside of size.
My logic for the NPI would be that they would have destroyed everything, which includes the ghosts and that even if it is being argued that the Kaioshin realm doesn't have a separate space time/isn't universe sized, they would still have the range to reach and destroy the entirety of another dimension that can not be accessed through physical means with the shockwaves of their attacks.Pritti said:@DragonEmperor
I'm not sure but they definitely will be a higher degree of 3-A than they already are.
It's still referring to the other realms and vice shout targets space time which, as stated, lies between the Macrocosm and the World of the Kai.Sera EX said:Also IIRC, AKM did say that U7 was the exact same across all the DB continuity. That would make the 4D walls between the Macrocosm and the Kai realm more legit.
Those scans seem to include improper usage of the term "dimension".
I'm not talking about the feat, I'm talking about the range. "Walls between dimensions" separates the ROSAT and the universe (and yes I know it's earth sized). The ROSAT is disconnect from the universe by space and time. If these walls separate the ROSAT and the universe via space time, then the Kaioshin Realm from U7's space time as well because these walls were stated to be between the dimensions. Is plain and simple, right in front of your face, it's called putting two and two together.ShadowWarrior1999 said:The ROSAT is just a small pocket dimension and at best it would be an outlier.
It's on both of the maps created by the Author himself and goes uncontradicted by current interpretations and canon? Further details from Daizenshuu says that you flat out can't use physical travel to get there?ShadowWarrior1999 said:The ROSAT and the Kaioshin Realm are completely irrelevant to one another. This is a non-sequitir argument, and the argument for the Kaioshin Realm being separate from Universe 7 is "lol it's in a globe on a map."
Okay, you bring up the Daizenshuu but here's one problem with that.Akreious said:It's on both of the maps created by the Author himself and goes uncontradicted by current interpretations and canon? Further details from Daizenshuu says that you flat out can't use physical travel to get there?