The Battle between Monsters- Acnologia vs Kaido

[Nerd1435]

Post-ROT,Human form Acnologia [6-B key is used for Acno]


The Dragon King

Vs

Kaido (can use Dragon form)


The strongest creature

Speeds equalised.

Votes:

Acnologia-

Kaido-

 

[Zackra1799]

I believe Acno stomps here given Kaido can't hit Acno while Acno ignores Kaidos Durability with DSM

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

Wait, why is Acnologia still have Non-Corporeal if the Dragon Slayers could hit him despite not having Non-Corporeal.

For the AP, well, it's a one-shot either way. Acnologia has no 6-B key so it is either Low 6-B or 6-A. If it Low 6-B (which is being twice as strong as his previous human state which is 539 Gt so he is around 1 Tt) then Kaido one-shot due to being 8 Tt. If it is the 6-A for Acnologia, then obviously Acnologia one-shot for being two tiers above Kaido which is certainly more than 7.5

 

[Zackra1799]

I know Acnologia's non corporeal was brought up before but I don't think it went anywhere, but given Natsu couldn't hit wraith who was a ghost, then idk.

In either case I feel like this should be dragon Kaido vs Post ROT Dragon Acno given they both have some options and it isn't a one shot

 

[Schnee_One]

@Plum

The Dragons have non physical interaction

Yeah this should be Dragon Acno

 

[Nerd1435]

Acnologia was able to rip apart Dragons' Souls from their bodies. This could imply Dragon slayers can interact with the souls of Dragons.

 

[The_Calaca]

Which isn't NPI but soulhax if anything.

Acno shouldn't have NC either way. Natsu's anti-feat prove that either he's tangible or the SBT did the trick.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

NP was supposed to be removed awhile ago, that shouldn't even be a factor here.

 

[Schnee_One]

But yeah Kaido has like an 8X AP advantage against this Acnologia, this should be Dragon

 

[The_Calaca]

SBT Acno scales to 2TT for absorbing a magic similar to his own power. No SBT Dragon Acno is baseline.

I'm unsure if Acno should still have Dura Negation since I don't remember a statement saying he still has DSM after bevoming a dragon.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

All Dragons have Dragon Slaying Magic

Humans got Dragon Slating Magic by learning the magic of Dragons, Dragon's Magic is literally Dragon Slaying Magic, it just got the name after humans learned it and started using it to kill Dragons

 

[Eminiteable]

I'll vote Kaido.

his 8 Teratons isn't a stomp if Acnolgia scales to 2 teratons and although Kaido's greater durability won't be as effective due to Acnolgia's Dura negation it shouldn't be such a hinderance to kaido as his stamina likely will keep him covered.

Acnolgia likely has the skill advantage due to his superior age, but since he's in his human state he doesn't keep the versatility advantage as Kaido would still have his flight and if the fight came to close range he'd also have a natural range advantage due to his large size.

 

[Zackra1799]

Acno only scales to 2 teratons in his Post ROT Dragon form, so he is half as strong in his human form. In any case this still should be changed to ROT Dragon Acno due to this fight being a stomp in either direction as it is now.

 

[Eminiteable]

oh wasn't aware

 

[Nerd1435]

Bump.

 

[Nerd1435]

Now they have extremely close AP.

 

[Schnee_One]

Actually Acno has much higher AP now

 

[Eminiteable]

Still going to vote Kaido for the same reasons above.

 

[The_Calaca]

Acno is like 2x stronger now.

He should take this via AP and Dura Negation.

 

[Eminiteable]

Is this still human form acnolgia?

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes.

 

[Eminiteable]

Shouldn't Kaido still take it due to flight and just spamming Boro breathe at his opponents? He seemed to do that against Oden.

 

[The_Calaca]

Acno has good range too.

 

[Schnee_One]

@Cal isn't Acno in the 30 Teratons range?

 

[The_Calaca]

Acno has the Dura to tank everything and one shot Kaido

Don't exagerate.

 

[Schnee_One]

I edited my post upon seeing you say he was only 2x stronger.

 

[Eminiteable]

Isn't that a stomp then if he can tank and one shot? Checking it Acnolgia still holds a range advantage and idk he can eat Boro breath or not.

 

[The_Calaca]

No? Acno scales above Aldoron who did a 8.5TT feat. And SBT Acno is 2x that at the very least.

 

[Eminiteable]

Sorry I was basing that comment off what schnee said.

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh okay, should be fair then

Acnologia via AP, Dura, Expirience and Dura Negation

 

[Eminiteable]

Kaido via staying in his human form thus the Dura negation doesn't work, Kaido still possesses his incredible durability and stamina and holds a close combat range advantage due to his large size.

 

[Schnee_One]

Staying in his human form means he can't fly or use Dragon Breath, plus his large size means less agility so Acno just wrecks him in CQC and calls it a day

Also he's still biologically a dragon so Dura neg works

 

[Eminiteable]

Flying and Boro breath are uneeded. How is he still biologically a dragon? He clearly transforms to become a dragon otherwise he's just kaido, Lucci in human form isn't biologically a leopard. Large size doesn't automatically mean less agility..

 

[Schnee_One]

Large size absolutely does mean less agility, especially between two comparable people.

Kaido literally has to reach down and claw at Acnologia with the massive size gap he has, while Acno can just pummel away with ease. Large size isn't giving Kaido a close quarter advantage against higher AP and skill.

 

[Eminiteable]

Erm.. human Kaido uses a massive mace as a wepaon he doesn't use claws in his human forms, his close quarter range comes from that mace.

 

[Davidsteel1]

Wouldn't shrinking down to Human form rob him of the range his dragon form enjoys? And Acno doesn't lose anything, in fact he gains a range advantage as a result so if he so chooses he can just blast Kaido from a distance and wear him down with higher AP. Plus an advantage in AP would turn any cqc brawl in favour of the older stronger fighter

Vote Lizard King for this and Schnee's reasons

 

[Schnee_One]

That changes nothing of what I said because he still has to reach down and swing near his feat, which Acno can dodge just fine, while Acno can run circles around him due to his agility advantage and skill advantage

He can also block and deflect the mace, given he is stronger

Also Kaido goes Dragon Form eventually meaning Acno destroys him in that state

 

[Eminiteable]

Isn't it character for Acnolgia to just run away and range stomp? I only proposed it for Kaido as he performed it in the past, the op days Kaido starts in human form so there would be no reason to go into dragon form really.

 

[Schnee_One]

In this form? No. This form can't range Spam.

Kaido goes into Dragon form in character, no reason he wouldn't try to do that if CQC is not working.

 

[Eminiteable]

If speed is equal then no it isn't easily dodged as it would be massive mace coming towwrds acno at the same speed acno can move at. What you're proposing isn't agility you're implying he has a speed advantage due to him being smaller which isn't the case, Kaido isn't a hulking slow guy he took down Luffy while kaido himself was on the ground without Luffy having time to react, acno isn't going to be able to run circles around him, deflecting the mace would be lifting strength which Kaido has the significant advantage in. Kaido could also go into hybrid form if needed which would grant an overall advantage in Kaido's favour but he wouldn't need to at at all, not would Kaido eventually go into dragon form; most the time he starts off in dragon form and later on goes to human, against big mom he just stayed in human however.