TF2: Atomizing weaponry.

[Livinmeme]

Again, do you have proof that in-canon they have ever hit each other with the atomizing weapons? Because Iif not that just falls into a massive assumption, it's like saying "they're outside all the time so they must have been struck by lightning at some point"

Weekly youre only aurgument is that is off panel that is stupid also isnt a biger asumption to make that they havent tanked the weapons for.... well you dint even give a reason also another false equivalence my boy Weekly
the ligthing comparasion is stupid because getting hit from a ligthing is rare not getting hit from weapons in a WAR you know

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Weekly youre only aurgument is that is off panel that is stupid also isnt a biger asumption to make that they havent tanked the weapons for.... well you dint even give a reason also another false equivalence my boy Weekly
the ligthing comparasion is stupid because getting hit from a ligthing is rare not getting hit from weapons in a WAR you know

Your argument right now is that theres no proof to say they havent been hit therefore they must have been

 

[Livinmeme]

imma gona sleep i am gona comeback tomorrow see ya

 

[Livinmeme]

Your argument right now is that theres no proof to say they havent been hit therefore they must have been

ok explain me why then dont get hit in a war explain that weekly also straw man
i said that they gona tank the weapon because they regurally use it in war but you now said that nop they dont use it for... whatever reason

 

[WeeklyBattles]

ok explain me why then dont get hit in a war explain that weekly also straw man

I'm not sure if you know what a strawman is my guy

i said that they gona tank the weapon because they regurally use it in war but you now said that nop they dont use it for... whatever reason

And again if you have proof to back up this claim then please show it, otherwise you're just making an unfounded assumption with nothing to back it up

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

So Bulma should be upgraded to Low 2-C because she survived getting slapped by Beerus? That's basically what's coming down to if "Getting severely injured by still surviving" is going to be legit durability. For once, I agree 100% with people like Dargoo that the whole "Even chip damaging is AP" or "Getting massively damaged by surviving by a hair, even if you get vaporized the next hit is still durability" are just horrible practices.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

So Bulma should be upgraded to Low 2-C because she survived getting slapped by Beerus? That's basically what's coming down to if "Getting severely injured by still surviving" is going to be legit durability. For once, I agree 100% with people like Dargoo that the whole "Even chip damaging is AP" or "Getting massively damaged by surviving by a hair, even if you get vaporized the next hit is still durability" are just horrible practices.

That's not always the point though. There were exceptions like this other verse had a calc that was in-game and there seemed to be no drawbacks. HELL EVEN FORTNITE out of all things... had calc's in game yet nobody bitched about that 9-A rating, Another Valve character Gordon Freeman has in game demonstrations and/or calc's as just few examples mind you, but m'kay "outlier" it seems... despite those being in game and are accepted, No disrespect man its starts to feel a bit hypocritical to leave TF2 out of it because the feats are in game.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

The first link was a ButterSamurai calculation; Wokistan already went over problems with that no offence to Butters though. Fortnite's calculations comes from fragmentations of objects, which is blunt force trauma and not heat based and not portrayed as weapons that vaporize people in one hit. Gordon's 9-A feat also comes from a fragmentation calculation which is blunt force trauma and it doesn't vaporize him. Also, Half Life is actually Audited as an Orange verse last I checked, meaning there's quite a few things to look at. One of the main things is as I say for nearly any FPS verse, all non-supernatural firearms should be rated from their own calcs whether it be via destructive values, or scientific properties.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

So Bulma should be upgraded to Low 2-C because she survived getting slapped by Beerus? That's basically what's coming down to if "Getting severely injured by still surviving" is going to be legit durability. For once, I agree 100% with people like Dargoo that the whole "Even chip damaging is AP" or "Getting massively damaged by surviving by a hair, even if you get vaporized the next hit is still durability" are just horrible practices.

Scout was also basically crippled at that point and took three more rockets.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

And it was the edge of what rocket explosion that pushed him into a crippled state.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

And it was the edge of what rocket explosion that pushed him into a crippled state.

No it didn't. Scout was running towards base in already crippled state. An explosion blast hit him causing him to trip up and fall. As he was standing up, three more rockets hit him. He was crippled beforehand. Seriously this is such a short clip why is everyone twisting what happened in it

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

He was bandaged, but not exactly "Crippled" per say. To say he was Crippled would mean all his bones were broken and he couldn't stand or walk for example. Being bandaged would imply they simply had some cuts and bruises which isn't injured enough to be described as "Crippled". But that one rocket literally broke his leg.

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

He was bandaged, but not exactly "Crippled" per say. To say he was Crippled would mean all his bones were broken and he couldn't stand or walk for example. Being bandaged would imply they simply had some cuts and bruises which isn't injured enough to be described as "Crippled". But that one rocket literally broke his leg.

How do we know it did? He could've just, fallen you know

 

[Livinmeme]

I'm not sure if you know what a strawman is my guy

And again if you have proof to back up this claim then please show it, otherwise you're just making an unfounded assumption with nothing to back it up

.. Weekly my literal proof is the premise of the game also you need proves to show that they never got hit for the cow managler specially when your only argument is
it happened off screan so they never get hit
no Weekly you need proves to show that they never get his specially when you refuse to give me proves.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dude youre the one arguing that they have been hit by them in-canon. I do not have to prove a negative the burdn of proof is on you to prove that they have caonically been hit by these weapons

 

[Livinmeme]

Dude youre the one arguing that they have been hit by them in-canon. I do not have to prove a negative the burdn of proof is on you to prove that they have caonically been hit by these weapons

Weekly i am literally basing in the premise of the game you dont prove literally any evidence that they never get hit SPECIALLY in a war that is like saying that if A figth B but the figth never show then B doesnt scale A
you are literally doing self validation and refuse to prove any evidence

 

[Axxtentacle]

That's just a blatant burden of proof fallacy, my man. You're asking him to disprove something you haven't proven.

Show them tanking the weaponry that atomizes humans, or give up. It's really that simple.

Your entire argument is literally "bro it's a war it had to have happened and it makes sense they can tank weapons" without proving anything. Give actual proof, and I believe Weekly would admit he was mistaken, because any reasonable human would accept it when it's blatantly shoved in their face. But you need to give proof.

 

[Livinmeme]

That's just a blatant burden of proof fallacy, my man. You're asking him to disprove something you haven't proven.

Show them tanking the weaponry that atomizes humans, or give up. It's really that simple.

Your entire argument is literally "bro it's a war it had to have happened and it makes sense they can tank weapons" without proving anything. Give actual proof, and I believe Weekly would admit he was mistaken, because any reasonable human would accept it when it's blatantly shoved in their face. But you need to give proof.

they have been figthing for years is extremlly stupid that they havent tanked the match is just as simple as that also the proves was literally the entire story of the game so.. no

 

[Axxtentacle]

Still no proof. Prove it or drop it.

 

[Livinmeme]

That's just a blatant burden of proof fallacy, my man. You're asking him to disprove something you haven't proven.

Show them tanking the weaponry that atomizes humans, or give up. It's really that simple.

Your entire argument is literally "bro it's a war it had to have happened and it makes sense they can tank weapons" without proving anything. Give actual proof, and I believe Weekly would admit he was mistaken, because any reasonable human would accept it when it's blatantly shoved in their face. But you need to give proof.

also saying that i havent proved when is literally the main point of the game is extremlly stupid

 

[Livinmeme]

Still no proof. Prove it or drop it.

proves is the story of the game they been figthing so is logical that they have tanked the explosions and you need to debunk that not saying that i have to prove it because i alredy did it

 

[Livinmeme]

now he is directly ignoring my arguments to straw man me to dead

 

[Axxtentacle]

I have nothing to argue against or agree with until you give me evidence that they can tank weapons that atomizes humans.

Also, this argument is honestly completely ridiculous either way. It's like arguing a human can tank a nuclear explosion because those are commonly used in war and they've been fighting, so why couldn't they tank it??

 

[Livinmeme]

I have nothing to argue against or agree with until you give me evidence that they can tank weapons that atomizes humans.

Also, this argument is honestly completely ridiculous either way. It's like arguing a human can tank a nuclear explosion because those are commonly used in war and they've been fighting, so why couldn't they tank it??

my point is that they been figthing agaist that weapons agaist years saying that they havent tanked the weapons is extremlly stupid
also
commonly used in war and they've been fighting, so why couldn't they tank it?
Nop false equivalence humans get one shotted agaist that weapons the mercs dont simple as that you need prove that they dont scale my man

 

[WeeklyBattles]

my point is that they been figthing agaist that weapons agaist years saying that they havent tanked the weapons is extremlly stupid
also
commonly used in war and they've been fighting, so why couldn't they tank it?
Nop false equivalence humans get one shotted agaist that weapons the mercs dont simple as that you need prove that they dont scale my man

So all soldiers IRL are now 9-A because RPGs are used in war, thats what your argument is the equivalent of

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

The argument for scaling them to the 9-A weaponry is God awful, why is this still open?

I’ll have to agree with Weekly here

 

[Livinmeme]

So all soldiers IRL are now 9-A because RPGs are used in war, thats what your argument is the equivalent of

man humans get OHKO by that weapons the mercs dont even in the gameplay they can tank it so no another false equivalance

 

[WeeklyBattles]

man humans get OHKO by that weapons the mercs dont even in the gameplay they can tank it so no another false equivalance

They literally get atomized by these weapons

 

[Axxtentacle]

my point is that they been figthing agaist that weapons agaist years saying that they havent tanked the weapons is extremlly stupid
also
commonly used in war and they've been fighting, so why couldn't they tank it?
Nop false equivalence humans get one shotted agaist that weapons the mercs dont simple as that you need prove that they dont scale my man

Prove a human can't tank a shot from say a satellite laser right now. Show me them being destroyed. Prove to me that humans CAN'T tank laser weaponry.

 

[Livinmeme]

The argument for scaling them to the 9-A weaponry is God awful, why is this still open?

I’ll have to agree with Weekly here

ironically i alredy debunk it the other argument

 

[Livinmeme]

They literally get atomized by these weapons

that is gameplay that is not canon and there is no evidence that is canon so... yeah no

 

[Axxtentacle]

Ok. Prove they can tank atomizing weaponry then.

I've never seen a real life human being blown up by an RPG, prove to me that they can't tank one.

 

[Livinmeme]

Prove a human can't tank a shot from say a satellite laser right now. Show me them being destroyed. Prove to me that humans CAN'T tank laser weaponry.

... What are you so desesperate to shot that they dont scale that you want me to prove something so simple as that
ok humans cant tank things that have more force that 1 ton of TNT simple as that

 

[Livinmeme]

Ok. Prove they can tank atomizing weaponry then.

I've never seen a real life human being blown up by an RPG, prove to me that they can't tank one.

another false equivalance humans cant tank RPG so by that logic the mercs cant... even when the mercs are super human

 

[WeeklyBattles]

that is gameplay that is not canon and there is no evidence that is canon so... yeah no

Then show it in-canon. Your argument is literally coming from them fighting using these weapons in gameplay

 

[Axxtentacle]

... What are you so desesperate to shot that they dont scale that you want me to prove something so simple as that
ok humans cant tank things that have more force that 1 ton of TNT simple as that

Prove they can't tank it.

Because the burden of proof is on you. Prove it to me, show me a canon scene of a character tanking atomizing weaponry. I don't need to say anything else because your whole argument falls apart with 2 words.

 

[Livinmeme]

damn that arguments are so badly argumented that is almost funny beacuse comparing real things to super humans do total sense

 

[Axxtentacle]

another false equivalance humans cant tank RPG so by that logic the mercs cant... even when the mercs are super human

Prove it, lol

 

[Livinmeme]

Prove they can't tank it.

Because the burden of proof is on you. Prove it to me, show me a canon scene of a character tanking atomizing weaponry. I don't need to say anything else because your whole argument falls apart with 2 words.

... wow just wow

 

[Livinmeme]

they are little circle jerking weekly and straw man me because you cant debunk 10 arguments per minute you can? now are they doing mental gimnastics to prove me wrong