Team Fortress General Discussion

[MinecraftHater2011]

SUMMER UPDATE JUST RELEASED, GRAHHHHHHH

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

VSH IS REAL

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

one of the new taunts adds spies decapitated but yet still alive head into medics arsenal and that's pretty funny :3

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I'm gonna check this out one map at a time
crossing a map out everytime i end a game on it

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Gonna note down any feats i find while playing
In Cashworks the BLU team uses a payload to blast open a vault door

 

[Knifeman29]

Saxton hale mode is official cannon my god.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

the VSH maps seem to not be working atm

 

[Shmooply]

I've heard reports that only Tiny Rock or Nucleus (don't remember which) don't work, the others do.

 

[Knifeman29]

So brave jump is finally cannon...

 

[MinecraftHater2011]

smh

 

[Knifeman29]

smh

 

[MinecraftHater2011]

LMFAOOO

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

If the previous holiday updates are anything to go by Valve will probably release an update that fixes VSH soon

 

[Maskofthedragon]

Arizona, Italy, seals and sharks are now canon to TF2!

 

[Knifeman29]

sharks are now canon to TF2!

Always Was

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

If you think about it Italy was already canon to TF2 since the start cuz Soldiers backstory brings up WW2

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

If you think about it Italy was already canon to TF2 since the start cuz Soldiers backstory brings up WW2

you're canon

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Loading screen for Sharkbay

They managed to almost match the date of the update

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

hehhehehehhehe nice

Also Hale can burst through some walls in the new VSH mode so might be worth looking into

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

VSH still works (sorta) if you create a server
you need to spawn some bots tho otherwise the clock will be stuck on 16 seconds and the game will not start

 

[Flashlight237]

So, here is some actual gameplay footage of Vs. Saxton Hale:


Good god! Saxton Hale one-shots all of TF2's mercenaries and they need to whittle him down like ******* PIKMIN in order to stand a chance against him!

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Good god! Saxton Hale one-shots all of TF2's mercenaries

it seems like Heavy can take one hit (1:27)

 

[Shmooply]

it seems like Heavy can take one hit (1:27)

thats always been a vsh thing

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

thats always been a vsh thing

i know

 

[Flashlight237]

Either way, someone should probably do a CRT for Saxton Hale, because my god!

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

it seems like Heavy can take one hit (1:27)

Yeah the Heavy is capable of enduring one hit and I think a fully-headed Demoknight as well as the soldier

Speaking of heads. Demoman has a statement questioning on the amount of heads Saxton has which implies Mid Regeneration

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

hoooooly **** these lines make so happy :3333 it's really refreshing to hear MY BOYS get new lines after sooo long it's like living through expiration date again. again

But anyway here's the statement for regeneration. This would also imply the Demoman can decapitate hale seemingly which uhh that might be an outlier given hale inturn can reduce the Demoman into a pile of flesh and goo with a single punch

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Yeah the Heavy is capable of enduring one hit and I think a fully-headed Demoknight as well as the soldier

if a Soldier can take it then a Demoman with booties should too as they have the same amount of health

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

I'm gonna compile what's new in terms of feats and physicals. Saxton is having a big section here lol

 

[Soupywolf5]

Yeah the Heavy is capable of enduring one hit and I think a fully-headed Demoknight as well as the soldier

Speaking of heads. Demoman has a statement questioning on the amount of heads Saxton has which implies Mid Regeneration

I made a blog listing various additions for the series, one of which is Low-Mid Regen for Hale scaling from Immortality machines, so Hale having regen would actually be kind of consistent

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I made a blog listing various additions for the series, one of which is Low-Mid Regen for Hale scaling from Immortality machines, so Hale having regen would actually be kind of consistent

Nice findings, to support that electricity resistance, Engie was fine after being grabbed by Blutarch who just got electrocuted by his LEM the electricity is even shown coarsing through him

 

[Soupywolf5]

Also, it hasn't been evaluated yet, but I redid the Meteor Shower calc (With more... reasonable numbers) and got 8-B results, which, if approved, would support 8-A mercs scaling to Scout's Ayers rock feat (Also, while the high end was rejected which, fair, the wiki wasn't ready for mach 20 train the High 8-C low end of Heavy's End of the Line feat was approved, which adds more support)

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

nice

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

Saxton Hale additions​

Abilities​

• Damage Boost (Via the Saxton Punch which allows him to deal a devastating critical hit)
• Explosion Manipulation (seemingly also makes an explosion with his saxton punch)
• Acrobatics (Capable of jumping immense heights)
• Flight (Capable of suspending himself in the air with his charge and then soar through the air with the built up momentum. Is capable of jumping on the air with his Brave Jump)
• Death manipulation (Saxton has a taunt kill which just by cracking his knuckles he's capable of killing the Merc in front of him. Will immediately kill the mercs if he wins rock paper scissors)
• Shockwave Generation (Capable of creating a shockwave after jumping really high up)
• Regeneration Mid (Capable of regenerating from decapitation)
• Aura (Constantly glows this gold aura)

Saxton's Physicals​

AP​

• Capable of busting through a brick wall by charging through it
• Busts off the gate of Little Rock
• Can oneshot multiple mercs at once with the Saxton Punch
• Can accidentally oneshot the mercs by flipping them
• Capable of one shoting Demoman shields
• Can one or two shot the majority of mercs
• Can one-shot engineer buildings

Speed

• Abilities like his charge and brave jump just. look super fast. He is capable of keeping up with the scout and far outspeeding him with the charge

Durability​

• Can tank 8 sticky bombs blowing up on him at once (this is the voiceline when demo places down all 8 of his stickies it's pretty difficult to get gameplay)
• Can tank all mercenaries firing at him at once which would allow him to endure extreme heat from the batsaber, the phlog and some of the strongest weaponry in TF2 even when coated in Jarate
• Can be pushed into gears with no harm
• Can be pushed into lava just fine
• Can be pushed into toxic waste with no notable effects aside from minor damage (all of these are from the map environments)

Mercs​

• All mercs are now capable of wall climbing. that's about it for feats and I'm kinda sleep now awa

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Shockwave Generation (Capable of creating a shockwave after jumping really high up)

That's a stomp move actually

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

That's a stomp move actually

well more of a body slam given it's animation

also, something to note is that Saxton can crush the mercs with his sheer girth

 

[Soupywolf5]

Looking back at Merasmus' High 7-C cloud feat, it was said to only be applicable as ED, but don't we usually scale these kinds of feats to applicable AP if the character uses the same energy for attacking? Merasmus uses the same magic to do all his stuff, so it shouldn't be too unreasonable to say he's got High 7-C magic in general (It would also add support to High 7-C/7-B Mercs scaling to sub-atomic destruction weapons)

Also, another intelligence feat; Medic and Engineer could hook a person's brain up to a pumpkin to make a living jack-o-lantern

And the Halloween comics/events seem to suggest that respawning is canon, as Merasmus gets the mercs to kill each other over and over to create an impromptu burial ground which also suggests the Mercs' resurrection is independent of their original bodies (Since if they revived in their old bodies there wouldn't be any bodies left to make a burial ground with) and is effectively pseudo-Low Godly (Also Gargoyles and Gravel has Merasmus telling the Mercs to kill their past selves to collect souls from, which could potentially give the Mercs Type 1 Acausality)

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

OH The charge also gifts him a minor forcefield which is pretty cool

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

I think saxton could beat Allmight now with equalized stats hehehehehhehehehe

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Looking back at Merasmus' High 7-C cloud feat, it was said to only be applicable as ED, but don't we usually scale these kinds of feats to applicable AP if the character uses the same energy for attacking? Merasmus uses the same magic to do all his stuff, so it shouldn't be too unreasonable to say he's got High 7-C magic in general (It would also add support to High 7-C/7-B Mercs scaling to sub-atomic destruction weapons)

Same magic =/= same energy. It needs to be explicitly said that the energy he uses to make the clouds is also used in his attacks.