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Read my first message about it and quote the moment in which i say i have a problem with it ?
Y’all just misinterpretated things.
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Taking The High 4-C NNT Rating To The Bahrain Huts.
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Y’all just misinterpretated things.
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Comparing the arguement a with the OP vs both speedster and Makai Deceived here is just making the better points with his arguments. So I’ll agree with the downgrades for the reason above
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I said stop talking about it.
I didn't say "oh you have a problem with it".
I said stop talking about it in here.
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Didn't know a timeframe was needed for creation feats, so I agree.
One of the reasons we've never applied this shit to physicals is because we have no idea how long this took, or how it was even done.
One of the reasons we've never applied this shit to physicals is because we have no idea how long this took, or how it was even done.
As an NNT supporter, I'm glad it's getting downgraded because I'm tired of the High 4-C physicals wank.
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Y'all really need to stop bringing Bleach into this equation. BLEACH IS NOTHING LIKE NNT, all of its feats rely solely on sustenance and explosion-based feats, NONE OF WHICH REQUIRE NOR FALL UNDER TIMEFRAME RESTRICTIONS. I'd know, I evaluated the Senna-related shit.
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One last thing, the only reason the Senna feat requires a timeframe is because it wasn't done in one single explosion, but several successive explosions. We don't use timeframe for singular explosions.
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KLOL: I will never get involved with HST
Also KLOL: AND THEY SCALE BECAUSE OF THE BOOM BOOM WITH NO TIMEFRAME AND THE BIG SHOULDER HOLDING
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Let’s stop talking about this I was just citing the information I saw without having any bad intent and I apologize if y’all were hurt by this
Now let’s focus on NNT
I’ll wait for the translation but for now I agree with the downgrade
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Deceived's arguments deceived me to agree with him.
Regarding why it took months? Simple, it could have taken him that much to make it, could have been busy, had other threads to make, had irl things to do, etc. I have 4 crts in making for over 5 months and yet havent finished any because of mutiple factors...you aren't required to make a crt instantly after an upgrade/downgrade is accepted if you think something is wrong...
Regarding why it took months? Simple, it could have taken him that much to make it, could have been busy, had other threads to make, had irl things to do, etc. I have 4 crts in making for over 5 months and yet havent finished any because of mutiple factors...you aren't required to make a crt instantly after an upgrade/downgrade is accepted if you think something is wrong...
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Also me:
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Yeah we understand but the timing is horrendous
I’m waiting for the translation before agreeing
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Adieu mon frèreNow that my clarifications have been made,
I BID ADIEU!
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What ass whooping? We are waiting for a translation my g if the translation is good then it’s good if it’s not then it’s not
It is how it is
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I’ve sent the raw text Here Is the panel
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ok i wanna point some stuff out before i debunk the chaos situation
1- this is done out of pettiness , and its a failure ..
2- all agreeing with the chaos part is wrong cuz if they read the series they would've seen creation was instant for chaos..
3- DK/SD creation could be just as fast as their creators but that wasnt shown so idc too much anywho heres the debunk
chaos creation is INSTANT so it created the planet instantly
1- this is done out of pettiness , and its a failure ..
2- all agreeing with the chaos part is wrong cuz if they read the series they would've seen creation was instant for chaos..
3- DK/SD creation could be just as fast as their creators but that wasnt shown so idc too much anywho heres the debunk
chaos creation is INSTANT so it created the planet instantly
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This revision seems fine to me.
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it isnt tho atleast for chaos, i literally proved its wrong
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azontr
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The size does matter homie. No idea where you've gotten the narrative that size is irrelevant.
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the way i see it, he havnt struggled or took time to create anything so far from a bird to dimensions so why we assuming otherwise unless stated?
azontr
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Because it'd be an even bigger assumption to assume Chaos can create something massively bigger than what they've shown instantly without proper evidence.
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混沌はまずこの世界を造り出すと
Chaos is said to have first invented this world
最高神と魔神王…三番目に神樹を生み落としました
It then gave birth to the Supreme Deity and Demon King… and it’s third child, the God Tree
やがて最高神は天界と女神族を
Eventually, the Supreme Deity created the heavens and Goddess Clan
魔神王は魔界と魔神族を
The Demon King created the Demon World and Demon Clan
神樹は妖精界と妖精族そえぞれ造ったのです
And the God Tree created the Fairy Realm and Fairy people
…その後混沌は四番目に巨人を造りましたが
…after that Chaos created a fourth species, the Giants
力に溺れ傷つけあうことしか知らない野蛮な種族に幻滅し
Their power led to them knowing nothing other than wounding each other, the savage race became disillusioned
人間を造り出しました
That’s when humans were created
This is pretty accurate with VIZ, I don’t see how it changes anything.
Edit: I’m going to include this here because I know it’s where Makai got the impression that the raws imply the creation was quick.
やがて is used which means, can be translated as “soon” however this “soon” is not saying the event happened quickly, it’s denoting “soon after” in the SD case it’s meaning “soon after being created the SD created heaven etc”. If you wanted to say something happened quickly you’d use 早い which they do not.
Chaos is said to have first invented this world
最高神と魔神王…三番目に神樹を生み落としました
It then gave birth to the Supreme Deity and Demon King… and it’s third child, the God Tree
やがて最高神は天界と女神族を
Eventually, the Supreme Deity created the heavens and Goddess Clan
魔神王は魔界と魔神族を
The Demon King created the Demon World and Demon Clan
神樹は妖精界と妖精族そえぞれ造ったのです
And the God Tree created the Fairy Realm and Fairy people
…その後混沌は四番目に巨人を造りましたが
…after that Chaos created a fourth species, the Giants
力に溺れ傷つけあうことしか知らない野蛮な種族に幻滅し
Their power led to them knowing nothing other than wounding each other, the savage race became disillusioned
人間を造り出しました
That’s when humans were created
This is pretty accurate with VIZ, I don’t see how it changes anything.
Edit: I’m going to include this here because I know it’s where Makai got the impression that the raws imply the creation was quick.
やがて is used which means, can be translated as “soon” however this “soon” is not saying the event happened quickly, it’s denoting “soon after” in the SD case it’s meaning “soon after being created the SD created heaven etc”. If you wanted to say something happened quickly you’d use 早い which they do not.
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Doesn't say nothing about a timeframe so yeah it don't mean much lol.
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No
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I kind of have to agree with 5-B here
the scans did say in a single intention/single thought.
the timeframe there is a mere thought or intention. we already assume thought-based abilities to work in an instant why does it have to be different when it comes to creation feat?
thinking things into existence is also supposed to be instant.
idk why people are being semantic with the meaning of intention or thought here
the scans did say in a single intention/single thought.
the timeframe there is a mere thought or intention. we already assume thought-based abilities to work in an instant why does it have to be different when it comes to creation feat?
thinking things into existence is also supposed to be instant.
idk why people are being semantic with the meaning of intention or thought here
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There is no provable timeframe for intention, I already proved that intentions can carry on for years…
I intend to graduate college
That’s a single intention
I graduate college in 4 years time
That intent carried out over 4 years not instantly
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wheres the scan for the single? tbh i was looking for it for awhile
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that semantic argument. you're comparing 2 vastly different things.
i intend to create things. but because I do not have the power to do so in an instant I have to build it.
that's literally the same argument here.
Assuming the creation to be a slow is just as reasonable as assuming creation is instant here.|
furthermore he created things from nothingness.
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This revision seems fine to me.
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